2019 General Election

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  • 2019 General Election
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    v8ninety

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    Erm, lets not over estimate it either, eh…

    Fair do’s, that’s a bit dramatic. The effect is unquantifiable, but is definitely pushing in the wrong direction.

    It is, but tbf, I don’t think binners toys coming out the pram (must be the longest tantrum in history, someone call the guinness book people! 😆 ) are all that influential! 😆

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    It is, but tbf, I don’t think binners…longest tantrum in history… are all that influential!

    It might be though, because it’s funny, and incredibly persistent. You make people laugh and some of them will start to empathise. Then some of those people parrot similar views on their social media… and so on. I wonder how many unique views this thread gets?

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    They should empathise. They should feel his frustration, it is shared by many.

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    It is, but tbf, I don’t think binners…longest tantrum in history… are all that influential!

    It might be though, because it’s funny, and incredibly persistent. You make people laugh and some of them will start to empathise. I wonder how many unique views this thread gets?

    Beyond the actual contributors, probably about 5.

    This “debate” is very much self contained. I think we’re safe from causing undue influence! 😆

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    Summed up nicely by Mrs Binners:

    I’d never ever vote for Boris because he’s a massive **** but Jezza’s hardly making it easy to vote for him, is he.

    Personally I can’t believe that we’re faced with the choice of these pair of ****-wits

    We are truly ****ed, whatever happens

    Grandad was pitiful tonight, as expected. He let Johnson off the hook, yet again

    Any opposition leader worthy of the name would have taken him to the cleaners with such an open goal

    Absolutely clueless!

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    I feel it too. But they will empathise Boris into no 10 before we know it. And then we are ****. It may be a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea, but I’d like a chance to try swimming.

    Just got home from climbing wall with cubs, called mum as usual, she is an ex daily mail reader, voted Tory in the 80’s (ok late 70’s I’m older than I remembered) even though she was a single mother on benefits and has a habit of telling me she doesnt like Corbyn “why” “just a feeling, I dont like him” “but policies?” “No dont like him”..

    Anyway she said Boris was a clown and Corbyn seemed much better!! **** me Boris must have been shit!!

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    We are truly ****ed, whatever happens

    We’re more asterisked if Johnson gets his majority. Much more asterisked.

    Anyway she said Boris was a clown

    He was. That wasn’t a mistake. He made things simple (everything came back to ‘get Brexit done’, as intended). He talked over the presenter to look like he was the powerful one. Job done. Grade A performance. Anyone watching who wants to know about his policies (for what that are) can find out elsewhere. Those that just want the spectacle, here’s the show. Awful isn’t it. All deliberate though.

    The worst moment for me? Corbyn getting booed when mentioning that climate change hits the poorest people in the poorest countries hardest. So many nasty shits in that audience, and this country. And of course, they vote.

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    Choice is simple in Englandshire binners.

    Do you vote tory, given their proven utterly useless 9 years in government.

    Or you can vote Jeremy “might be a bit shite in office, but then again might no” Corbyn.

    Plus there’s only one of them that will guarantee a referendum.. so there is that.

    robdixon
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    “Neither are those bloody glasses. Unless he’s got a wonky head won’t someone please straighten them…“

    He’s reportedly got a fresnel lens in the right side which would suggest a recent mild stroke – they are typically used to correct double vision.

    If that’s the case a vote for Labour is probably a vote for McDonnell as Prime Minister within 6 months – and the hardline Marxist agenda that goes with that.

    Based on their latest round of policy announcements anyone who things we couldn’t get a worse leader than Corbyn may be about to be in for a big surprise – but not in the way they expect.

    Don’t underestimate your influence, when posting on a popular public forum. You’re currently working for Boris, whether you realise it or not. And we always joke that Chewk or whatever his username is, is the ‘bot’…

    Yeah he’s definitely one of them traitors to the cause, even worse than the fascists. You’re either with us or against us.

    Sigh

    Anyhow can’t say Binners didn’t tell you all. For the past year you’ve all been telling Binners how wrong he was about Comrade Corbynichov bombing this election.

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    and the hardline Marxist agenda

    Go on, tell us about that? 😆

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    For the past year you’ve all been telling Binners how wrong he was about Corbyichov bombing this election.

    Did someone bomb Corby? 😆

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    Beyond the actual contributors, probably about 5.

    I hope you’re right.

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    Grandad was pitiful tonight, as expected.

    Except he wasn’t.

    Liked what he said. He’s bothered about people.

    Enough for me.

    If you want to see stilted , over media-trained material – watch Jozza on ITV now.

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    Hang on a minute. I’m ‘working for Boris’?

    Sweet Jesus! You really have been in the bunker too long

    Expressing enormous and completely legitimate frustration at the utter cluelessness of Corbyn and his cabal, because you’d really really really rather have a labour government, or even an opposition that could actually be arsed to oppose now equates to ‘working for Boris’

    You really need to have a word with yourself

    I’m not your problem. Your problem is 5 years of Boris and Brexit.

    I’m not enabling or ‘working’ for that, but some bearded lefty idiot is

    Look a bit closer to home for who’s to blame.

    But I suppose the corbynites are getting their excuses in early for the next ten years of Tory rule

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    Plus there’s only one of them that will guarantee a referendum.. so there is that.

    THIS. Then get rid of him if you must. He can’t have much longer on this mortal coil anyway…

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    Hang on a minute. I’m ‘working for Boris’?

    Sweet Jesus! You really have been in the bunker too long

    Expressing enormous and completely legitimate frustration at the utter cluelessness of Corbyn and his cabal, because you’d really really really rather have a labour government, or even an opposition that could actually be arsed to oppose now equates to ‘working for Boris’

    You really need to have a word with yourself

    I’m not your problem. Your problem is 5 years of Boris and Brexit.

    I’m not enabling or ‘working’ for that, but some bearded lefty idiot is

    Look a bit closer to home for who’s to blame.

    But I suppose the corbynites are getting their excuses in early for the next ten years of Tory rule

    It’s a binary choice binners… We are getting one or the other.

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    Classy behaviour from the tories: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50482637

    Hopefully that stunt will backfire.

    olddog
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    Do we blame Brownites and Millibandites for the first seven years of Tory Govt?

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    You’re currently working for Boris

    He is, even if he doesn’t mean to. He writes more anti-Corbyn content than anyone on this public forum for all to see.

    If that’s the case a vote for Labour is probably a vote for McDonnell as Prime Minister within 6 months – and the hardline Marxist agenda that goes with that.

    That’s just not true. McDonnell isn’t pushing Marxist policies, and Labour policy is not decided by the leader. But feel free to spout ignorant shit all over the internet, hey it’s what everyone else is doing and it’s also how people vote.

    **** sake this is depressing. The entire world is **** doomed by stupidity. Who the **** thought democracy was a good idea?

    The sooner Musk can sell me a spaceship to float off into the unknown the better.

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    He is, even if he doesn’t mean to. He writes more anti-Corbyn content than anyone on this public forum for all to see.

    Will we be allowed to point out after the election that Corbyn is a vote loser?

    When do the reality filters come off??

    Anyway, please, everyone, if Labour can stop the Tory candidate in your seat, vote Labour. Johnson must be denied his majority, or this little group of countries is in for the worst 10 years any us will have lived through.

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    Expressing your legitimate concerns was fine and dandy (and mildly entertaining) before the election kicked off, but now it’s a binary issue. There’s no change leader option right now, and anything that criticises Labour helps the Tories. Perfectly happy with you saying ‘I told you so’ in four weeks time, I’ll even nod in agreement because I’m no Corbynite. But for now, give it a rest, because you ARE helping Boris in your own little way.

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    So I should just shut up and keep my opinions to myself because… socialism?

    Good luck with your next 20 years of Tory rule then. Unfortunately I and the rest of the country is going to have to endure it too.

    Is that easier if you’ve never criticised Jeremy? If you’re ideologically pure?

    Do you get exemptions?

    You may want to have a closer look at who the useful idiots really are here…

    Who’s delivering Tory hegemony

    Clue: he’s got a beard and wonky glasses

    I’m suddenly possessed of the urge to buy crayons, eat a pie and vote for Boris.

    How very odd?

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    So I should just shut up and keep my opinions to myself because… socialism?

    Largely because, you know, right wing tory brexit… carry on with your corbyn bashing after that’s been stopped.

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    I’m suddenly possessed of the urge to buy crayons, eat a pie and vote for Boris.

    You jest, but every thread about sausage rolls makes me peckish…

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    hardline Marxist agenda

    pffft.

    So I should just shut up and keep my opinions to myself because… socialism?

    No.

    But yes, because you’ve turned into a right pain in the arse.

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    How many times? I’m still going to vote for the useless beardy Marxist ****!

    Vote for the Tories? I’d rather remove my own kidneys with a teaspoon

    But let’s not be under any illusions that the Labour Party is anything other than an unelectable shambles under that idiot.

    He’ll lose this election by more than the last one, guaranteed.

    My cat has got more chance of delivering a Labour majority.

    Against Boris and this gang of far right sociopaths?

    FFS!!!

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    I’m hungry now. Need sausage roll.

    Look, those who are struggling with people who are banging on negatively about Corbyn, we still need these people to vote Labour in the seats that matter. And here’s the rub… most people are overly negative about Corbyn. Get people voting Labour. Don’t bother trying to get them to change their mind about Corbyn. Give up on chasing miracles. Stop Johnson.

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    Urggh… Gove in the spin room… an approximation of a human.

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    So… to be clear… when Boris gets his majority, it’s my fault?

    Some hobby dickhead on a mountain bike forum? But no blame can be laid at the door of the leader of the Labour Party (peace be upon him) or those around him, for they are blameless

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    So… to be clear… when Boris gets his majority, it’s my fault?

    Stop it. You’re being a wally. It won’t be all your fault. Just a small, unquantifiable amount. But y’know, you’re still pushing in the wrong direction right now.

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    If this is true what the Great British public want is an untrustworthy prime minister who’s not in touch with ordinary people. Do I need say it again?

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    i feel a bit sick…..

    Farage seemed to come across better than any of the big 3. I only joined part way through but he generally answered questions, didn’t waffle too much – I mean of course his policies and everything he stands for make me want to throw objects at the TV but as a politician, he’s pretty good. At least in comparison to Bojo and Allotment Man

    baboonz
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    You’d think Labour would have an easy time beating the conservatives given these past years.

    mattyfez
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    Trying to make out that Labour are silly for using $20 Cloudflare isn’t enough is silly, as it literally was. The site stayed up and nothing was compromised.

    There was no data breach or significant degradation of service.
    So we can only say they had sufficient safeguarding in place.

    We can’t say the same for arron banks twitter account, hahaha.

    Are we allowed to talk about that yet or is the bribery and corruption still a UK state secret?

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    You’d think labour would have an easy time beating the conservatives given these past years

    Indeed. But apparently if you point that glaringly obvious fact out then you’re working for Tory central office or traitorous Blairite scum

    Your failure to see Jeremy’s obvious genius is probably some weird character flaw of yours and nothing to do with him, for he is god-like deity, beyond criticism. Like god, but better

    Have you ever seen the salt-mines comrade?

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    But no blame can be laid at the door of the leader of the Labour Party

    No it’s obviously not your fault, but you do spend a lot of time debunking the so called conspiracy theory that it’s the result of the media. You’ve already demonstrated today that you’re susceptible to the simple tricks that results in polls like that above. Anyone who pays even passing attention to the media coverage on politics will see Boris portrayed as ‘a bit of laugh’ and jack the lad, whilst Corbyn is some sort of shadowy, suspicious figure.

    How many times tonight have we seen people comment on his glasses? One eejit even extrapolated that he’d had a stroke and wasn’t fit for the job from the angle of his glasses! And you reckon there’s nothing going on here other than the paranoia of those of us who can see through it? We’re all being played. You can either choose to see through it, or do what they want you to do. And what they want is for labour voters to do their job for them by supporting their narrative of Corbyn as ‘un-prime-ministerial’ (whatever the hell that means).

    for he is god-like deity, beyond criticism

    WIth a beard. And wonky glasses. And he dresses scruffily when not on the telly. And spends time on an allotment. And lives in a run-down ex-council house. And rides a bike with a silly stem. All good reasons he shouldn’t be PM obviously.

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