Glad Guscott hasn’t turned into Andrew Robson.

Nicol must be just a bairn! Scotland and the All Blacks used to be the masters of fast aggressive rucking. You didn’t want to lie on the ball in front othe tiers forwards in the ‘old days!! 😉 made for nice fast rugby too

You utter hypocrite,you were banned for your inability to stop referring to Scots as Sweaties. When called out about it,you suggested a sense of humour was required ( that’s a quote BTW)

Internationals are a great way to bring in new supporters and we should be more accommodating of them, it’s not an exclusive club. New supporters should be encouraged and not discouraged with snobbery.
EDIT: It looks like Bear has previous on this matter.

Agreed captain – why complain at people watching a great game. Now if we can get some quality rugby too and a little less whistle

AA, maybe, my perception is that the Welsh English rivalry is stronger than the others. Do you have the same feelings toward other teams when you play them?

Probably because Wales has such a strong rugby heritage and are a proud nation their supporters are very patriotic, far more so than England probably.

Once again apologies if I offend, that is not the purpose of my posts, far from it.

I’ve played a lot of sport and made many friends through playing and watching, some were bitter rivals on the field but once you get to know them by sharing a drink post match you realise that you are all very similar. I suppose that I’m trying to get past the rivalry, but not doing a very good job of it.

I kind of get pigface’s attitude. In some areas, I reckon english rugby is quite a difficult thing to like. The tweed, the hunter wellies, the posh hamper of scran in the twickers car park. I get it. Here in some of the west country (excluding bath obv), the rugby playing and supporting demograph is far more like that of South wales, I find the whole posh **** thing a bit shit too which is why I ignore it.
All said and done, it’s just about 30 blokes knocking lumps out of each other with a ball for our amusement. Hating those who do so is odd.

Not sure what some people are seeing in this thread. All fans seem to be appreciating their team is a bit sh1t and the standard of rugby hasn’t been high. England draw a lot of discussion as they are one of the few NH teams with the potential for genuinely posing a challenge to the SH sides.

As an Englishman living all my adult life in South Wales I identify far more with the “average” Welsh fan through the passion for rugby there is in the area. The subtle difference is that even in the not very Welsh part of Wales that is the South, supporters are generally rugby fans first and foremost and Welsh fans second. Sure there is passion for the national side but not the hate against other nations that most non-Welsh (English?) seem to think there is. When England had their more dominant run (especially the WC’s) every single person in the Welsh bars was cheering for a NH win. As I said, South Wales may not be the best representation of Wales as a whole but from my perspective at least the discussions around England aren’t out of hatred or trying to constantly pick holes, it is just contributing to a discussion of how you get the powerhouse of the NH with the most potential challenging the SH sides fulfilling all that potential as it is all we have in this part of the world in terms of hope 🙂

Good old days IGM – fast, aggressive rucking rugby was a joy to watch. The modern ruck and maul (especially the blatant obstruction rolling maul) are v dull in comparison. You cant even collapse it any more 😉 – that soon stopped the travesty even if you did get trampled on (if you didn’t quite get it right)

Aaaaaaaarrrrgh! That does my head in! Anyone hanging about in midfield ahead of the back line is obstructing – penalize them.

How do you judge special or successful? They scored more points and tries than any other home Nation, got the equal furthest in the tournament, made massive leaps compared to the rugby they’ve played in recent years… and they must have set some sort of record for number of intercept tries 😀

Easy rule change. Any player congratulating team mates for winning a penalty shall result in an immediate scrum with the congratulating player exchanging positions with the player congratulated. Put in to the non-congratulating side.

Mike Brown at hooker and Dylan at full back anyone.

Horrible practice congratulating penalty awards if you think about it. It makes it seem like the team achieved a goal, as if they were playing for a penalty, and that’s akin to diving. Perhaps even a yellow is in order – but seeing Brown in a front row would be funnier.

as if? I thought it was blatantly obvious they are playing for a penalty half the time?

I think you probably know what I meant and are just being an arse for the sake of it. Irish Indy btw – if the circulation is the same as the UK Indy then it gets read by no-one.

Indeed – applauding the ref for giving your side a decision is equally distasteful.

Lots of these things surely fall under “ungentlemanly conduct” or whatever it’s called in the rules?

Fantastic 😀

To be fair, it is against the rules to bbq at Twickenham.