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I know you’re right but I find Farell such a disagreeable sort that I’ll persist in arguing the toss…… 😉

At international level Farrell is nothing special and his development has stalled. Ford was first choice 10 for 18 (?) months before the RWC and it was a major error to switch to Farrell after the first game. Ford stays first choice until his England performances are not up to scratch. We know what we’ll get with Farrell and its not enough.

On Wales bringing players into the side early it certainly helped a lot with North as he was a man mountain at 19. The intensity of International rugby mixed in with tough league and european schedules mean I’d rather see playets eased in gradually unless exceptional (North was/is)

Hate to break it to you, but he’s already failing to deliver to the required standard, and he hasn’t played well since last season. England cannot afford to have a misfiring 10, no matter how talented he might be. He needs benching and soon. Eddie needs to grow a pair.

I agree too Pigface. Not least because I’ll be in the air coming home from work and have to watch it later. Sport should be watched live otherwise there’s no point cheering and shouting at the television where you can clearly make a difference to the outcome 🙂

Agreed. Same with club games really. I have a friend who cancelled his wendyball season tickets partly as he missed so many games which where moved to stange days/times.

As an aside ticket sales for Twickenham seem to have dipped as RFU mailing about extra availability.

@wrecker in absolute fairness to you I”ve not watched a single game or any highlights 😳 Consistent with my view that post rwc 6n is largely irrelevant. Dropping who was the best 10 in the run up to the rwc and is the player to drive a more expansive game is imo daft, EJ seems to be agree. All my spectating this season will be European RC and Top14
Being slightly cheeky I can see why Irish and Welsh fans want to see Farrell, he’s far less dangerous to them than Ford

Ford/ Cips/ type player with a proper 12 and a balanced back row is a team I wouldn’t want to face. I think most teams would take Farrell all day long by choice! The other backs get instantly taken out of the game 😉

The England pack on form do the work of most full teams in defence so I don’t think adding to the lumbering-1D-ness (Farrell) helps the team as a whole if you want to be more expansive (i.e. challenge the SH sides).

I wouldn’t call Farrell no nonsense, nor the others really. Farrell is all mouth and no trousers which is what gets people’s backs up and his “confrontational style” is often very misplaced and lets down the team as a result.

Farrell is a solid international 10 who’ll kick penalties but isn’t the long term option IMO. I would imagine Snr’s meddling will also delay this progress

The thing is, it’s a lot easier to look good playing for Saracens than it is playing for either Sale or (at the moment) Bath.

When people say Farrell is the “form 10” in Europe that judgement is based on how he looks given an armchair ride by a dominant team.

Mike Philips may be a total kn*b off the pitch but at least he played some good stuff on it. Farrell just runs round all the time trying to be a total c**t. As does Brown.

Josh Lewsey was hard as nails without being a tw*t. That’s what you want.

Brown’s not that good either. He had one good run of games where he was England’s best player but then Mark Cueto did the same a few years back – didn’t make him Jason Robinson.

Brown lacks basic skills like how to draw a man and give a pass. (See Eng v Wales 2012 80th minute) He also lacks basic manners when talking to officials.

Brown’s been lucky – Foden’s been injured a lot and Armitage/Abendenon went to France. They should have stuck Watson in at fullback and let him learn on the job.

Well, I am a fan of Foden and watson, and I was not keen on Brown in the early days, but he does a job well. If he needs to behave aggressively to get the most out of his game, then it’s fine by me. Armitage? 😆 and you think Brown is a ****? He’s a complete novice compared to that person AND he’s shit anyway!

I’m glad others were able to better articulate what I meant when I said Farrell is all mouth and no trousers…. granted though Healy is some special kind of nut job for the stuff he comes up with some times

Not to mention being seemingly easy to wind up and knock off his game, a fan of cheap shots and also bloody lucky that high tackles have been deemed lawful for some reason this 6N. He could already have a couple of yellows and that is potentially game changing stuff.

Gouging and le combat?

Armitage is a total bellend – I agree – but he has a grasp of basic skills that Brown never will and has more pace too.

There’s behaving aggressively by flattening some annoying opponent in a legal manner (Lewsey) or by shouting at linesmen and running 50yds to shove someone in the back because they haven’t released the ball for a lineout (Brown).

These days, fullbacks need to be the first line of attack and pose a proper threat – Ben Smith, Israel Dagg/Folau, Stuart Hogg etc.

Brown is little threat. As Ekul points out he tucks it under one arm, is easy to read and doesn’t put people away.

Foden has far more ability although he hasn’t looked great this season the couple of times I’ve seen him. Watson has massive potential as a fullback but doesn’t look a natural winger – if anyone listens to Austin Healey….

When Phillips was being a **** he’d generally be a discerning **** and getting some gain by winding the player up.

When he was Farrels age he was still a bit of a bell end tbf.

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Getting knocked out by bouncers on drunken nights out, wasn’t he? Oh;and sharing sexy time with that blonde singer. The rest of his leisure time was mostly wasted. 🙂

What a legend 🙂 Going back to CFH’s post….

England starters as per BBC. Itoje in the second row…

Your apostrophe looks like it might have been tackled by Jamie Roberts, it has been knocked back four words.