Nah he had an easy ride behind that pack, no better than average, as you say Howley was streets ahead. We can agree to disagree 😆

I would agree with that. You have to give credit to Dawson for his humility, after being interviewed about “that Lions try” he said no one in the Boks thought he was good enough to throw a dummy so they bought it 🙂 Dawson is a great benchmark to compare to Cripriani, Cips is easily more talented but Dawson has the Lions caps, the RWC winners medal and a long distinguished England career. Dawson made the most of his talent and Cipriani has wasted his. Surfer, I really don’t care at all what Cirpriani may do in one or more club matches – he had his chance and he blew it and you can’t change his poor judgement and lack of application / professionalism. He is quite simply not an elite level athlete. All said and done he’s 28 now and its too late for him. I’m personally looking forward to watching Dan Carter week in week out for 15€ a pop

Carter starred / started at 30, just sayin’

Ben Te’o for 12 (inside Manu eventually).
Wuss next year, but already England qualified through parent.

Eddie Jones gets his own ex-Rabbitoh to find space for.
Just don’t play him at 6.

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Can you get a stronger endorsement than the Welshy fans being scared of him?

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he’s exactly as english as George North is welsh.

The welsh wibbler born in kings lynn to an english father? Or the statuesque 😉 english hooker born in Rotorua to an english mother?
Dylan has english blood, he’s no foreigner.

Well they both kind of are foreign to you 😉

The welsh wibbler born in kings lynn to an english father?

I heard she was kidnapped and carried over the border by a dastardly Englishman.

Hartley is properly English.

His folks moved to NZ and he was born there but grew up only wanting to play for England. Despite going well in the NZ system he jumped ship over to the UK as soon as possible with a single-minded intention of getting into the England side.

Cips has already proved he can do it at international level and he performs wonders for a less fashionable club and don’t forget how good he’s been off the bench in his recent, limited, opportunities in a white shirt.

However, Eddie Jones, alledgedly referring to Cipriani, said something along the lines of:

“If somebody tells you that some bloke’s an idiot and someone else tells you he’s an idiot too and then some other people tell you he’s an idiot too, then you get to thinking – that bloke’s probably an idiot.”

I’d say he sounds a bit less English with that Kiwi accent of his…..

Yes Kryton but he’d been the established truely world class 10 for a years before that. Cirpirani is trying to start / re-start his international career.

2nd half was good, that’s for sure! Let’s not discuss the first half….!

Cracknell and Underhill impressed again.

He did aparantly put on 2 stone on a holiday to Samoa! Anyway, yes, looked good and my man crush was well satisfied!

Looked good at 12, always good ground, and if he’s leant to pass out of the scrum of markers around him, he’s going to be lethal.

Commentators mentioned it last night, but when did this thing of backs running the width of the pitch to congratulate forwards for winning a scrum start?

Agreed, Manu did well. Third time I’ve seen that full back Chisholm play, he looks good. For all the fuss, O’Connor didn’t look great.