Huge blow to lose Cipriani he really is outstanding and he will be sorely missed. I dont know what the lure of Wasps is (we lost Taylor even though he was offered more money to stay) Millar, Myall and Gaskell dont seem to have done their England prospects any good moving from Sale but for Danny it is possibly also the chance to move South.

Creative accounting around the salary cap.

Silverware? Building a squad?

I dont recognise the words, never mind the concepts.

He is playing Ford into a cocked hat every week…Hell, I decided to get a packet of wine gums when in for milk yesterday,that is more assertive and decisive than Ford has been all season.

Cips 2nd best 10 in the Prem IMO. Ford a distant 3rd although I would be happier with him than his brother who is struggling for us.

Because of the reasons Jones gave in Telegrapgh, he’s not good enough, he’s not at the right level.

So Cips thank you to Sale is to comment, “once a Wasp always a Wasp”. Very classy eh, how to thank the club the saved your @rse after you where a bust in Australia ?

Jones has the England team right, Ford starting at 10 and a spot for Farrell given injuries elsewhere. When all are fit Farrell will be the backup 10.

Thats an interesting viewpoint,mostly just shared by you and Eddie,especially with regards to how they are both playing just now.

You don’t actually have a clue what his mental qualities are or aren’t. It’s clear you’re not his biggest fan, but don’t stretch that to the level of insight you claim to but cannot have. Plenty of footballers have behaved worse and yet “perform” at even higher levels of scrutiny on the international stage – there’s no correlation between a bit of bad behaviour off the pitch and how a sportsperson might or might not perform on it.

More likely (IMO) what wrecker says is true. He’s blotted his copybook too many times and the old farts have longer memories than an Irish elephant that was dropped for the deciding Elephant Polo test between the British Isles and India. I doubt he’d get a start no matter what he did now.

On another note, I notice that the final day fixtures are the exact reverse of last year’s – is that by design or just a fluke of the fixtures computer?

Hey the O’s were the original galacticos 😆 how quickly we forget those heady days 😉

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I think they have both matured. Yes, Cipriani got done drink driving, which is monumentally stupid, but by and large he’s kept his head down. Henson has been the model professional since arriving at Bristol, the fans love him despite some initial doubts.
10 is an issue for england. Ford is a fantastic natural talent but he can fall apart when things aren’t going his way. I’m far from convinced that he can/will be world class. Farrell has the skills but not the vision, he’s very much a coached player, but he is effective.
Cipriani has a bit of both, and maybe even a little bit more. Time isn’t on his side, and I think it’ll need to be an exceptional circumstance for the RFU to allow him back in.
The outside bet for the 10 shirt is Slade. IMHO, he has the potential to be better than the lot, and in fairly short order too.

Very true IJ, to be honest I didn’t care how they beat Australia, win ugly but it is a win, wish Wales could beat Australia 😆

I do love the fact that everybody hates Henson until he turns up at their club and proves he is a class player. Then they all love him. Bath is the classic example. Will always be a tragedy that he never fulfilled his true potential.

EJ seems to think Manu will play against Wales despite no rugby for goodness know how long so he doesn’t seem adverse to taking on a knobber so long as it’s the right knobber

Maybe Cips needs family in Elite coaching 🙂

I like Lyn Jones, barking buts gets results.

Jones has the England team right, Ford starting at 10 and a spot for Farrell given injuries elsewhere. When all are fit Farrell will be the backup 10.

As others have said you are not objective on this and neither am I but my lack of objectivity is at least reinforced by watching him every week. Other than Farrel who has a better kicking game IMO there is not a 10 I have seen since Wilkinson that has the same vision and ability to change a game like Cipriano in spite of being behind a less than stellar forward pack.

Lyn Jones doesn’t get results. He talks a lot but ultimately he’s never as good as he says he is. Look at the Dregs at the moment – always just promising to be good but never quite. Always the same no matter what the team.

Also, I know it’s for charidee and all, but that silly hand signal thing he does after scoring just reeks of awfulness.

I think he is a knob but hearing Matt Dawson choke up when talking about his lads meningitis is a bit sobering, average scrum half great dad.