I enjoy taking a few pictures with the old trusty friend of OM2, no auto, no nothing but a simple meter and a lens. The problem I'm having is getting the films in the first place in Ireland, and having it developed properly in the second. I'm considering the DIY way TBH.
This morning I collected some prints (the film was a C41 type), bought two rolls of grain and am going shooting tomorrow morning. A heavy lens or two, perhaps a tripod, definitely a thermal flask and sandwiches. Should be fun.
Is there anybody else here who doesn't enjoy the digi snapping and prefers the real thing?
BTW Where can I get a few A4 prints from?
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B&W photography on film, who else enjoys it?
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now that you can get a paper from permajet that looks exactly like oriental seagul fb pearl with a bit of selenium tone there is no point in using film. i thought it was a real fiber based print when shown a b&w inkjet printed on it. (permajet fibre base gloss 295gsm)
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Even better than taking Black and White pictures is printing them.
I haven't printed Black and White for years, but have been planning on looking out all my old gear some time and showing the kids.
I might look out my old camera and get some Black and white film. It would be a good thing to do with them. I might even process the films with them as well.
Good call.
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I've no gear nor knowledge of the processing or printing at the moment. I'll need to get it done somewhere (or just develop the roll and scan the negative so I can print it off a PC which defeats the purpose I suppose).
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It must be quite cheap to pick up second hand stuff now, as not many people will use it now.
It is really cool seeing an image appear in the tray under the red safe light.
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It is really cool seeing an image appear in the tray under the red safe light.
Looong time since i've done it but, agreed, never loses it's magic
It must be quite cheap to pick up second hand stuff now, as not many people will use it now.
yep, cheap as chips - mines all boxed and in the spare room - 'one day' i'll hook it out and set it up again
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7dayshop for film, normally got some reasonable. May well dig my om4 out!
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bu55er black and white try redscale film. http://soup.create52.com/technique/redscale/
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I like it. Got a Canon AV-1 I think. Aperture priority which is a bit annoying but it takes really nice photos with the Canon 50mm lens.
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Just dug this baby out yesterday. Still in working order - time to get some B&W film...
295/365 by stuartie_c, on FlickrPosted 1 year ago # -
I've always prefered mechanical things that go clunk and click over digital that go 'beep' even if results can be copied using new papers the process is lost. I've kept my Canon Eos 300v for when the mood takes me. Charity shops sometimes have a few nice film cameras going cheap, digital might clearly be the way forward but it's not as cool.
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I took my OM2 with a muddafukka of a lens (3lbs for 70-300) out yesterday. Nobody complained about having to wait when I was trying to work it.
Digital - Smigital, very McDonald's-like.Posted 1 year ago # -
I love b&w photos - get some up on here!
I have a Zenit E which I still use...
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I've always prefered mechanical things that go clunk and click over digital that go 'beep'
Erm.. digital SLRs go "clunk and click". It is still a mechanical action to flip the mirror, set aperture and open the shutter.
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My film gear hasn't moved out of the boxes since I bought my first digital camera years ago. There's one of those enlargers that packs away into a briefcase under my desk too. I'd have to agree the magic is in the printing. I'll probably do it one day for the kids as a demo now I have a nice cellar to play in, but it was always a faff setting up for an evening's printing when I used to do it. If there is a local evening class at an art college with a darkroom that might be a good way to bypass the faffage and still have a go.
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If you enjoy B&W then do yourself a favour and try get some infra-red film and try that out - absolutely stunning. You'll need a bag to load the film into the camera and you'll need specialist developers and printers now but they will be so worth it. Even the simplest landscape becomes a thing of beauty especially if there's lots of cloud detail to be had. I ran a camera club many years ago and we had a guy do a talk who took nothing but these and developed and printed his own stuff and his prints were incredible. Just an old guy, basic camera and lots of skill.
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P.S. Will my Ilford papers still be good to go after ten years?
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I've taken it up from scratch a couple of years ago, it's an enjoyable but time consuming habit (which I'm still rubbish at)
film, self process use rollei retro 100 or 400s, get a film change bag, a film opener, a paterson tank and a few chemicals and and a thermometer and you are off
scan the negatives, I find the scanner harsh but good for neg selection
I'd get a cheap (they can't give away the cheaper durst's) enlarger, a few trays and the chemicals (and the other bits)
there's nothing like an evening with a good malt nice tunes locked away in the dark room
once the habit bites you can then get the good stuff (lietz focomat enlarger, nova deep tanks, RH metering)
ignore the digital crowd, and enjoy the world of film
cameras:
slr: get prime lens'get a small compact: olympus XA is great (don't get the 1 or 2) 3 is ok 4 is rocking horse poo
get a retro rangefinder: Yashica Electro 35 GTN recomended (make sure it has the battery conversion)
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midlifecrashes, they should be fine.
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Graham no no no the film being loaded goes clunk click, there's a whole romance, enjoyment and level of expertise in picking film, loading it and developing it yourself. I'm not saying DSLR is in any way lesser, it's just a different process. Slipping your memory card into a PC and switching a printer on will never replace the DIY darkroom
for enthusiasts. Horses for courses.Posted 1 year ago # -
Taken in Courchevel this summer.
Some really tired bikers in same place.
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This was taken by a friend nr Goatland I think, easy to see difference.
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Nikon FM and 24mm f2.8 Nikkor. Small, fully manual and a lovely feel when winding the FP4... I used to run several films per wedding for friends as a present and was never dissappointed. Processing is normally by Ilford on pearl paper. A manual camera will teach you all you need to know about photography and put you in good stead for digital.
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Recently did a days workshop with this guy:
http://www.tillmancrane.com/index.php
Brings B&W film to a whole new level, worth the effort you put into the experience - large format though, different league altogether.
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Nothing more pleasing than whatching the image appear in front of your eyes.
Its what Photography is all aboutPosted 1 year ago # -
I have an enlarger and various bits of film processing and print developing kit which I don't use any more. Every thing you need for B&W and most of what you need for colour.
If anyone is interested email me - Yorkshire based 'cos posting it would be a git.Posted 1 year ago # -
For me it isn't the final effect, the sharpness of the print. It's the process of aiming, thinking, checking, winding the camera up, clunk! and then waiting for the roll to come back from the developers.
Oh, and all those discussions in the local photo shop about the benefits of Ilford over Konica, grain or not etc.Posted 1 year ago # -
I love B&W. Wish I hadn't sold my enlrger and kit, I just can't get results I'm happy with in digital. EFKE 50 or 25 developed in ID11 was my favourite combo or Tri-X when a faster speed is required. Magic.
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I do it:
Stockwell Skatepark by tr!ckster, on FlickrTaken with an olympus XA-1 compact rangefinder. I used to develop myself in a local community darkroom, but haven't really got the time at the moment so I normally send them off. Used to send to Spectrum Imaging in Newcastle, but they've stopped doing it now so looking for somewhere new.
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I do it as well as lots of DSLR'in. From this years Tour.
Do all my own developing in my newly built darkroom!!! Moohaha!
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Anyone want a Lines and Jones 5x4 enlarger (cold cathode), think I still have all the plates from 35mm up to 5x4.
A classic enlarger, needs punchy negs, but produces wonderful rich results with fibre based papers & no bigger than your normal 6x6 enlarger.
Used to work as a B&W hand printer many years ago when my eyes were good! Managed to sort out a great home darkroom, but sadly, now don't have the time or eyesight anymore
Some great photographs up there btw ^^^
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This was taken by a friend nr Goatland I think, easy to see difference.
That is a fantasic picture. I love it. Please pass my thanks on to your mate!
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As I lent my 5D to our friend doing the wedding togging, and of course couldn't resist having a camera in my hands at some point in the proceedings, I picked up some Ilford 3200 ISO, my old EOS300, and the nifty fifty, I put three rolls through it during the reception.
As I'd told the real tog to put his camera down and have a drink by then, I reckon these grainy shots portray the boozing into the morning quite well.
CNV00012 by Mark-Farrell, on Flickr
CNV00008-3 by Mark-Farrell, on FlickrBy contrast, shots earlier in the evening (and therefore infinitely better technically)on the 5D and converted just look too clean and a little lifeless by comparison:
FARREL2010_274 by Mark-Farrell, on Flickr
041 by Mark-Farrell, on FlickrAs I'm now in Australia where there's considerably more light than a marquee at 3am, I've got some XP50 in it for some smooth silky landscapes (hopefully)
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Nothing more pleasing than whatching the image appear in front of your eyes.
Its what Photography is all aboutyes, and it takes 200mS on my DSLR
There's a diference between photography and alchemical fetishism Posted 1 year ago # -
big_n_daft
get a small compact: olympus XA is great (don't get the 1 or 2) 3 is ok 4 is rocking horse poo
Not sure I agree with that. The original XA is the only true rangefinder, XA1 is a fixed focus, XA2 is scale focus, XA3 is an XA2 with DX capabilities so it sets your film speed automatically and XA4 is the same with a wider angle lens.
just realised, i got the designation wrong in my photo above, that was taken with an original XA.
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