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  • Zwift, my journey, my weight and my fitness.
  • crosshair
    Free Member

    @mrjmt I find the category classifications a little bit misleading. They are based on 95% of your 20 minute power / weight in KG.
    This means the relationship between your calculated FTP as above and your actual hour power can decide if you have a fair race or not.
    My stamina isn’t great, so I tend to drift into B cat territory for the short races and everyone gets all uppity that I’m sandbagging but in races closer to an hour or longer then I’m firmly mid-C cat.

    The organisers have invested a lot of time effort and money into Zwiftpower.com so stick with the cats almost in an attempt to justify it but I think either no categories, a TT qualifier or a points based system would all be ‘better’ in many ways.

    alexxx
    Free Member

    Ordered it all! dammit! I need to get fit for my trip to NZ in February so it seems the best way to get the legs spinning!

    Is there a STW group on there now?

    weeksy
    Full Member

    There’s a Strava one. I don’t think Zwift does groups… but if you add people from Strava into Zwift and they’re riding, they then come up at the top of your list and you can select ‘ride with’….

    alexxx
    Free Member

    Nice thanks for the info – I’ll get on it next week

    blader1611
    Free Member

    After a lot of searching using various software and intel identification utility to identify my exact model, it transpires that not even intel had the answer. I tried zwift anyway as i read that even below min spec it runs but zwift told me that my intel hd 2900 graphics was prehistoric and old biffers like me should return to using brass rubbings for graphical displays!
    Well its an acer icore i3-380 with 4gb ram and hd display thats less than 5 years old. But at least i now know which graphics its using so thats my silver lining.

    wilburt
    Free Member

    You can drop your Zwift ride log file into this page and it will analysis your systems performance.

    http://zwiftalizer.com/

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    Ooooh might try that later…..

    leeroybrown
    Free Member

    Quick question for those with smart trainers
    What happens if you are running a candance + speed sensor already
    Will take the speed from the trainer or the sensor on the wheel ?

    mossimus
    Free Member

    Will take the speed from the trainer or the sensor on the wheel ?

    You would pair the trainer with Zwift as a smart trainer so it would use this as the power source. You could additionally pair s/c sensor as just a cadence sensor so Zwifty knows your cadence too.

    wolfenstein
    Free Member

    hi, can someone please spec me stuff to get into zwift cheaply in very laymans term (like..posting links)

    what?
    Smart turbo? = Tacx Flow T2240
    ANT+? =
    Heart Rate Monitor? =
    Road Bike? = Cheapest I can get my hand in Decathlon near me.

    my laptop to use is fast enough in terms of processor and graphics.cheers

    gazhurst
    Free Member

    Apologies if I’ve missed the answer to this but isn’t racing on a trainer that doesnt automatically adjust the power to suit the terrain alomst like cheating?

    For example, I have an Elite Volano trainer…if I was to race at my w/kg it would put me in a B race (I think). When the race came to a climb (Box Hill for example), surely I could just keep pedalling at the same power as I was on the flat and therefor not fatigue as quickly or slow as I might if I was climbing it on an ergo trainer???

    If that makes sense????

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    it adjusts your speed in zwift for the slope.

    wilburt
    Free Member

    On a hill the same power will result in a slower speed.

    you do get to keep the same cadence which smart trainers users can only do by dropping gears(as per real life) I do better on a smart trainer as I hit it a bit harder when the resistance is applied.

    gazhurst
    Free Member

    it adjusts your speed in zwift for the slope.

    I get that but then wouldnt those that still pedalled at a constant power on a non ergo be fresher at the top of the climb as oppose to those who climbed at that true power and speed??

    wilburt
    Free Member

    What I have…..

    Smart turbo? = Tacx Flow T2240 yes from Halfords with a BC discount.

    ANT+? = from amazon with a usb extension cable c £15 from memory

    Heart Rate Monitor? = Garmin already have a few.

    Road Bike? = Cheapest I can get my hand in Decathlon near me. Whatever you like but I think its important to have at least a semi dedicated bike or you just wont bother with the faff.

    You could use a winter bike in the summer and summer bike in the winter.

    A cadence sensor is also useful as you’ll soon get to know whats optimal, usually 80 to 90 rpm.

    wilburt
    Free Member

    List of events

    http://zwift.com/events/

    fifeandy
    Free Member

    @gaz, no, in that mode the motor brake just simulates a hill, it doesn’t make you produce more power.

    So on a smart turbo you are pedalling along at 200w at 90rpm, then the hill kicks in, so you are still doing 200w, but now at 60rpm – unless you change down a couple of gears, then you are back to 90rpm again.

    On a non smart turbo, you are still pedalling 200w at 90rpm, you just don’t have to change gear.

    crosshair
    Free Member

    The only difference is a few gear changes and ‘feel’ Gaz. The power you can put out at a given cadence will stay the same regardless (and with a good spread of gears, there’s no reason why you can’t maintain the same cadence).

    There’s also a reality slider that lets you choose what percentage of grade you want adding. I ride at about 25% reality as any higher and I would need to keep changing chainring- whereas I can stay in the big ring at 25% and just shift +/- a few cogs at the back.

    mrblobby
    Free Member

    Apologies if I’ve missed the answer to this but isn’t racing on a trainer that doesnt automatically adjust the power to suit the terrain alomst like cheating?

    The trainer’s just adjusting the resistance.

    You’re still right though, if you sit there at your optimum cadence in a high gear at the resistance you find most comfortable when making good power, you’ll generally perceive it to be easier. A smart trainer would increase resistance resulting in a lower wheel speed and less inertia so making the same power feel different (might be easier, might be harder, depends on the rider.) Also if you’re having to change gear a lot as the resistance varies, you’re typically having to make a lot of little accelerations, this can be more fatiguing.

    MSP
    Full Member

    ok I did the ftp test on it this evening, but I can’t see where my ftp figures are stored or adjusted?

    weeksy
    Full Member

    On the pause menu where you see the orange boxes for settings, kit, achievement etc. Top left of that screen is edit profile.

    Bottom right on that is ftp

    MSP
    Full Member

    ok found it now, thanks.

    The interface is a bit crap, that stuff should be accessible from the start screen, and at the end of the ride.

    Markie
    Free Member

    Having read this thread I now want to zwift.

    Having read up on turbo trainers, I’d like to do it on a Tacx Neo!

    I’ve never been on a turbo trainer, I last had a road bike circa 1993 and it’s not certain there’s a competitive bone in my body, but this looks ace!

    weeksy
    Full Member

    I wonder if I should be on commission from zwift and tacx.

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    wolfenstein – Member
    hi, can someone please spec me stuff to get into zwift cheaply in very laymans term (like..posting links)

    what?
    Smart turbo? = Tacx Flow T2240
    ANT+? =
    Heart Rate Monitor? =
    Road Bike? = Cheapest I can get my hand in Decathlon near me.

    Smart turbo – nice to have but not essential. If doing it cheaply you could get a normal turbo trainer but check it’s on the list on the Zwift website, so you get more accurate numbers.
    ant+ dongle – I got one named ‘anself’ one from Amazon. It was a tenner. I didn’t bother with a usb extension lead, but I probably should have done.
    HRM – again not essential, but I like knowing what my heart rate is doing. You could always start without and add later.
    Road bike – triathlon or eBay?

    I would also recommend to anyone thinking of getting into turbo training whether using Zwift or not to get a large pedestal fan. It doesn’t need to be fancy, I think mine was about £19 from Amazon.
    Also, one of those towel thong things to keep the sweat that will pour off you away from the bike…

    wilburt
    Free Member

    ok found it now, thanks.

    The interface is a bit crap, that stuff should be accessible from the start screen, and at the end of the ride.

    Your right some stuff is still quite poor, especially the logging in and out bits but its better than it was a year ago

    andy8442
    Free Member

    Interesting….but I think I’ll stick to my tried and tested method. This winter I’ve got all the Game of Thrones to watch. Each episode is about 45 mins, and thats about all I can take on the TT.

    johnny
    Full Member

    My 2p’s worth:

    I did a whole 12 week ftp builder in the new year and it really set me up for the summer, although my favoured target event for the year folded, (epic Cymru) and I rediscovered ale…

    Last night I did my first ride since April on zwift. (Garmin bike sensors and HRM, generic ANT+ dongle and Kurt Kinetic rock ‘n’ roll trainer) if originally planned to just spin for 30 mins or so, but found myself on the ‘slope’ of the mountain climb… in the end it was a one hour ride with a 30 min block of climbing at threshold and a spin down at the end!

    crosshair
    Free Member

    @Weeksy- only if I get 75% like all good pyramid schemes 😀

    I did 2h30 on there tonight. Literally flew by! (1xGroupride 1xCoached interval session).

    heds
    Free Member

    weeksy – Member
    I wonder if I should be on commission from zwift and tacx.

    Same here. I’ve now got 5 friends signed up with another who came round to have a go yesterday, very interested.

    It’s not just that Zwift is totally amazing fun but my real world results are starting to get noticed as well (I’m not bragging as I wasn’t exactly rapid to start with, more a slow overweight bloke becomes slightly less fat and slightly less slow).

    alp_girl
    Free Member

    😳 Ahem… just so I get the right one, is it the “first generation” ANT+ dongle on this link I need or the “second generation” one??

    link

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    Either. I think the generation thing refers specifically to their product line – so the first gen is bulky & sticks out, the second gen is a much more compact one.

    ANT+ is the important bit.

    I went for the first gen version because it was cheaper, but in hindsight I should have bought the small compact one (second gen), so I could just leave it in a USB port and it wouldn’t be obtrusive.
    It’s a bit of a pain having to remember to take it with me into the garage wit the laptop, but don’t want to leave it plugged in, because I know I’ll catch it and snap it off.

    mrblobby
    Free Member

    weeksy – Member
    I wonder if I should be on commission from zwift and tacx.

    This thread has me looking at the Neo once again, that’d be a nice chunk of commission 🙂

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    Oh, and with hindsight – I probably should have bought a USB extension lead to go with it, just in case…..
    It works fine at the moment and I have had no drop-outs or problems, but it would probably be ‘better’ if the dongle was located closer to the sensors…..

    For the sake of a few more quid it’s probably worth getting one, even if it turns out you don’t need it…

    OH – and one more thing. Pay attention to the delivery time from that seller. I got mine from them too, and signed up to the Amazon Prime trial to get next day delivery – otherwise it’s about 2-4 week delivery…..

    Hob-Nob
    Free Member

    This thread finally encouraged me to get round to signing up on Zwift – I had been meaning to for a while, just not actually got round to actually doing it.

    Anyway, I managed to get home early from work today so thought I would crack on with the FTP test for a baseline. I did one a couple of years ago now & was around 3.2w/kg in the middle of winter, with lots of riding but minimal training, so distinctly average in that respect.

    Well, after the sick feeling subsided & I could read the screen, I clocked in at 3.3w/kg this time. I went too hard off the start & suffered horribly in the middle, which will have hurt my average, coupled with a fairly rubbish season of riding & probably a few kg overweight, I think that could/should bump up to 3.4-3.5w/kg by Christmas.

    I’d love to try & stay motivated over winter and push hard to see where I end up. We shall see. If it started with a 4, i’d be amazed, and impressed with myself!

    alp_girl
    Free Member

    OH – and one more thing. Pay attention to the delivery time from that seller. I got mine from them too, and signed up to the Amazon Prime trial to get next day delivery – otherwise it’s about 2-4 week delivery…..

    Aha! I was just looking at the “sold and fulfilled by” bit and wondered if I was going to have a similar experience to my Halloween decorations order that just about made it from China in time for 6pm on the 31st 😀

    So if I go for the Prime trial, it really arrives the next day?

    alp_girl
    Free Member

    Well, after the sick feeling subsided & I could read the screen,

    !!! how hard is that test??

    fifeandy
    Free Member

    !!! how hard is that test??

    It’s pretty much one of the most horrible things you could ever do to yourself.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    if you dont feel that like that the end of a FTP test you didnt go hard enough….

    thinking about having a crack at one of the races tonight. is the KISS europe race a stupid place to start?

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    alp_girl – Member

    So if I go for the Prime trial, it really arrives the next day?

    Well, when I did it, it was around 7-8pm on a Friday night (11th Nov) & with ‘Prime next day delivery’ or whatever it is, it said will be delivered Sat 12th Nov & it was.
    Was delivered by Royal Mail…

    You just have to remember to cancel the Prime trial before 30 days if you don’t want it or you will be charged £79 for a year of Prime.

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