Windows 10 – Day 0 installation.

Should be on your case?

If not there are easy ways to extract your product key, google is your friend.

After you have it download the live ISO from microsoft and do a clean install using your 8.1 product key, from what I believe this should work but you might want to do a parallel install to be safe

Nah its a custom built, got the OS fom uni when I was there about 4 years ago. Stupidly thought that just replacing the broken mobo would be simple plug and play, was baffled for days before admitting I needed help and someone told me if you replace the mobo you have to clean install Windows too. Add another 3 days trying to find the old windows cd and then figuring out I had no product key.

Its essentially a different beast now, everything is different bar the RAM, although I still have the original HDD in a drawer so I may be able to get the product key out of that…

Not quite – they simply didn’t use the word “genuine” when explaining what you would get a free update from.

Yes, try the old HDD.

I changed my motherboard and it didn’t even notice. Was the same series from the same manufacturer, though.

So running the upgrade compatability wizard. It says my version is not compatible. Using windows 7 ultimate n with sp1, on a core i7 with 16Gb of ram.
Would have thought this would be suitable. Grrr

Do you have a video card with no supported driver or anything like that

Could be the nvidia quadro card. Will have to unplug and try again.

I still have the original HDD in a drawer so I may be able to get the product key out of that…

You can get it using WMI. Give me a minute, I’ll dig out the command.

Apologies, that’s W8 and up. You need powershell for W7.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/find-windows-product-key

Jellybean, then. https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/

Upgraded a spare work machine yesterday, what a god awful thing to do. I chose not to keep anything yet it still was laggy and hanging half the time.

So download the ISO and mount onto USB, install this morning and its telling me that I don’t have a valid product key…yet the thing allowed me to forcefully update yesterday and told me it was authenticated, today it wants nothing of the sort. Office desktop from HP with sticker on side….is it the OEM stuff they wont upgrade?

I did speak to Micrsoft and the unhelpful lady told me to wait a few days as this is happening a lot!! Maybe they will fix it, or maybe they lost track of the ‘genuine product codes’

Are you trying to use the W7 product key? That isn’t apparently a valid W10 product key – doing an in place upgrade also upgrades the product key, which then allows you to do a clean install – you apparently have to select “skip” when it asks you for a product key and it will use the key on your current installation if you’ve already done an upgrade.

Not tried yet myself – will have a go with a VM later.

gofasterstripes/cougar, thanks very much, will give it a whirl tonight. See what I can get going

🙂 Don’t thank me too much, coogs is the one who knows how to do it 😉

ffice desktop from HP with sticker on side….is it the OEM stuff they wont upgrade?

Being a work machine, has it been reinstalled with an Enterprise edition? You can’t upgrade those as they use a VLK.

The Vaio is currently sporting W7 Pro that I had installed from MSDN.. no white flag.. I’ll have to reinstall the W7 home premium it came with to get an upgrade. Bah.

Cougar – Moderator

Office desktop from HP with sticker on side….is it the OEM stuff they wont upgrade?
Being a work machine, has it been reinstalled with an Enterprise edition? You can’t upgrade those as they use a VLK.

No its been a machine that’s been dormant for a few years as we had some employees leave. Sticker on side box is ‘Windows 7 Pro OA’ (OEM Activation) which I thought was included and why it went through the upgrade process….

Ahh I think I see whats gone on, as I ran the upgrade I should have then ran the tool to find my new Windows 10 key….as that partition got wiped due to it being so damn slow and laggy then I’ve effectively screwed that install…sounds like a reinstall of Win 7 and upgrade but be careful to obtain the new product key before I wipe the partition.

OK so im pretty sure mine is unfixable. The Key is an OEM key obviously registered to the old BIOS, not sure how thats works, must have been a dodgy copy of W7. The same product key is on my old HDD but thats still obviously attached the the old BIOS too. I dont even know if that makes sense. Tempted to just buy W7 form amazon as it will cost me like £10…

It doesn’t work like that. (W8 does, not W7.)

I get this message “0xC004F063 computer bios is missing required license”

Ah. Because it’s OEM – it’s finding the SLP key. A donor PC of the same make would probably work.

What version of W7 was it?

Wait – was the licence you got from Uni an OEM key, or VLK, or what?

Its ok its fixed. win7loader, not the best way but its worked. Thanks C

Dunno what’s happened but I was prompted to start the upgrade and after 20 minutes the screen was saying ‘restarting’.

It still says the same 2 hours later.

At some point I do expect the service model to turn to a rental model, a la Office 365.

I don’t think so. I gather the logic behind this is that very, very few home users pay for upgrades when they launch a new version of the OS; they’ll continue to make enough money from new (OEM) licenses and enterprise support, and it’s in their interests to move everyone to the latest version to avoid having to patch legacy software. Office is different, because people do buy upgrades, and the Office 365 sub also pays for more OneDrive storage.

Anyone seen my stilsons?

Anyone seen my stilsons?

Easy tiger!

What? I’ll have you know this CPU was state of the art in 2005.

(AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 3800)

Wut?! That’s got to be a joke….Hold on…

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1856378

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-some-older-amd-processors-do-not-support-windows-81

You might be able to work around it with a 32 bit version:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/42852/microsofts-windows-10-feature-32-bit-version/index.html

How much RAM do you have?

4GB Ram

Hmmm, I edited the post above.

If you desperately need W10 then the 32bit version may work, but as the tweaktown article says, you’re limited to 4GB of RAM including VRAM, so you’ll lose some, probably.

At a guess: not worth it.

Oh well. I’m probably overdue a hardware upgrade anyway – I just wanted to secure my free Win10 upgrade while I could. Hopefully I’ll still be able to create an install disc?

One assumes so, but I’d investigate whether you are allowed a 64b .iso!

On my laptop it is great, on my surface pro 3, it has killed my battery, killed my split screen and basically turned it a bit crap.

Hopefully I can get back to 8.1 with a refresh. Hopefully.

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On my laptop it is great, on my surface pro 3, it has killed my battery, killed my split screen and basically turned it a bit crap.

Hopefully I can get back to 8.1 with a refresh. Hopefully.There’s an option to go back to w8 in the settings>update&security>restore. only lasts a month though.

can anyone tell me if it will start to the screen where you can choose the user?

Windows 8 just went straight to whoever was on last and it was annoying.

Cheers

can anyone tell me if it will start to the screen where you can choose the user?

There’s a button on the bottom left of the login screen to switch user.

Been using it for 2 full days in work now…

I’m not convinced – Edge is crap, it’s slow, it claims fictional network failures and the controls are idiotic – I only found out today IE is still a part of Win10, it’s just ‘hidden’ – Win10 seems to have made that slow and crappy too.

Over-all 10 is slower to boot, slower to close and slower to use than 8.1, it looks great and it’s a single OS and not a 2-in-1 like 8.1 opening apps as windows is worth the hassle alone – I reckon it needs a few updates to get into its stride.

No probs on my surface pro 3 . If anything battery life seems to be improved with w10

Over-all 10 is slower to boot, slower to close and slower to use than 8.1, it looks great and it’s a single OS and not a 2-in-1 like 8.1 opening apps as windows is worth the hassle alone – I reckon it needs a few updates to get into its stride.

Without wanting to come across as a f@n8o1, there’s apparently a big patch due in Aug, then a further one in Oct. My dad tells me Sony are also advising people not to upgrade until they’ve had a chance to make sure all their Vaio drivers work (which makes Sony look a bit crap, given Win 10 has been in public beta for months).

Apple are just as capable of turning out a buggy mess in the .0 release (my iPhone still won’t connect to public wifi if I don’t turn the cellular data off first).

OK – so if I don’t want nGB of not-ready-for-primetime OS sitting on my SSD but I have hit the “Reserve” popup, can I cancel it and wait a few months and d/l a version that’s ready to be used as primetime?

anyone know when / how I can get it for phone? just been given a lumia 925 as a stop gap but I like the idea of it being my mobile PC.

There will almost certainly been a major update within weeks – there’s not really a test that can replicate 14m users and lord knows how many different PC specs and millions of drivers for various things.

It’s far, far better than we feared in work though (IT support co.) we’ve advised, ordered and begged our clients not to update yet as we expected all manner of horror stories – but we’re going to tell them they can crack on if they like with some advise about pitfalls.