What the flip happened to Dido?

MrMo, generally music these days which becomes popular with the masses is marketed to death by bean counters. The music industry has been guilty if this for years, but if people are gullible enough to believe that they are making an informed decision by buying the latest Adele pile of nonsense then good luck to them, it’s being shoved down their throat at every opportunity possible until they find themselves humming it but don’t know why.

Our lives are run by bean counters, the books we read, the art we see, the music we listen to, all is marketing. However even those who claim to be buying for “higher” reasons are buying what is sold to them.

As i said are you buying music to entertain, to educate or to challenge? Music is closely tied in the head to memories, certain music will be attractive because of what it means not what it is.

As i also said there are too many critics who are effectively marketing music to those too gullable to see they are being marketed to, the cool “i am not being markteted to brigand”.

Maybe be i am being too cynical but most people are too stupid to know they are being marketed to.

generally <insert product here> these days which becomes popular with the masses is marketed to death by bean counters

Not sure why the music – or any – industry is “guilty” of doing this. They’re selling a product and the aim is to make money.

As for the art analogy, most people like pictures of things, how often is modern art regarded as crap? look at the response you get to the Turner prize, or in a different arena, the Stirling prize?

I’m not sure what marketing I’m susceptible to and I would guess most folks don’t either

However, the last track I downloaded was Bob Dylan – Mr Tambourine Man [coz I can’t find the copy I already have]
There must be some sort of subliminal Bobby Dylan stuff going on in my head

join me on my bland patrol, next week we are smashing up the tofu in waitrose.

I’m not sure what marketing I’m susceptible to and I would guess most folks don’t either

TJ, to the forum please !!!

Or maybe people who aren’t so up themselves as most of the music journos seem to be bought it because they liked it?

Luckily we don’t have any of those deplorable people here, only with-it cats who are up to date with the most fashionably avant-garde beat combos.

One man’s bland is another man’s phaal.

If marketing is producing sounds that I find pleasurable then I’m a sucker for it. I’m chubby, don’t have bose or an iplayer but I can cook, and I loved that No Angel album, and I despise music snobbery.

Luckily we don’t have any of those deplorable people here, only with-it cats who are up to date with the most fashionably avant-garde beat combos.

Who’d a thunk it. STW is a hipster’s hangout.

*peeps over the parapet*

Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Cripes – I only asked what happened to Dido. I didn’t think I was pulling the pin out of a popular culture grenade.

But hey – that’s STW.

boxfish – I like your addage.

Just imagine the amount of money in royalties that the usual crap bands are going to make come Friday. They’ve got a couple of weeks where, as another athlete bursts into fits of tears on receiving their medal, the BBC producer says….

“Annnnnnnnnnnd…… cue Snow Patrol”

Maybe be i am being too cynical but most people are too stupid to know they are being marketed to.

Hmm.. so what, though? Pleasure is pleasure. And marketing soon wears off. I’ve got popular CDs (including No Angel*) and obscure ones. Some I like after listening for a while, some I get tired of pretty quickly.

I don’t know if I was marketed at, I don’t know if it had an effect, but I still bought the CDs I thought would be good. With ultimately a poor hit rate.

After quite a bit of playing I concluded that only one song on it was good all round. I liked the music on the hits but the words and crap singing started to annoy me a bit.

The Dodo died, Di died, Dando died, Dido went into hiding.

Apparently, after Di died, and Dodi died, Dido was petrified that she’d be next. Went in to hiding in Basingstoke. Works in a hippy part time.

Organic. That is spooky! Both typing same (awful) gag at the same time!

🙄

Works in a hippy part time?
Am I being stupid, but i don’t understand this bit.

chippy?

Works in a hippy part time?

Either it’s some sort of ‘zen’ thing or there’s a missing ‘c’ at the beginning of the word.

Apparently, after Di died, and Dodi died, Dido was petrified that she’d be next. Went in to hiding in Basingstoke. Works in a hippy part time.

And Dando!

Jill Dando is known as Jan Dildo round these parts..

Works in a hippy part time?

Either it’s some sort of ‘zen’ thing or there’s a missing ‘c’ at the beginning of the word

Thank heaven for pedantic unts like you then.

Jill Dildo works too if you are familiar with the coloquial term for female (ahem) pleasuring.

In 2010, “Everything to Lose”, was featured on the Sex and the City 2 soundtrack. The song was written by Dido in her country house where she is recording her fourth album, which will have an electronic approach

Working title: ‘Dido Does Dubstep’ (apparently)

Dido fans tend to be those that would claim to like “all music”. Their definition of “all music” ranges from Beyonce to The Killers, rather than Cradle of Filth to The Tsars

You can spraf on about art as much as you like, but art by its very nature is open to review as soon as its put out there. The likes of Dido, Adele, David Gray, Duffy, they were never pushing any boundaries of art or music in the sense that it is something to explore, they simply came out copying well established and succesful artists who came before them.

Let’s be honest however novel and original you think the hip hop inspired, 5/5 beat, nose flute from the Wahhh-Wahhh tribe of deepest darkest Stratocasterongolia is*. It’s no more original than Dido. Seeing as some neolithic Caveman banged 2 rocks together in a 4/4 beat and found he got laid more has infuenced them both.

*it’ll be big with hipsters at the end of this year, the middle classes will make it uncool next year and by 2014 we’ll be listeing to whale music again.

Dido fans tend to be those that would claim to like “all music”. Their definition of “all music” ranges from Beyonce to The Killers, rather than Cradle of Filth to The Tsars

No one likes Cradle of Filth, just teenage girls from the late 90’s who wantet to appear different and wear black makeup.

There are 57 songs on all the Radio 1 playlists at the moment. That’s less than 4 hours worth.

To be fair, you’d end up brain dead if you listened to radio 1 for 4 hours. And if you actually expressed the desire to listen to radio 1 for 4 hours, then we can take it as read that brain death was your starting point

Binners sounds old.

2 hours of it could be the Essential Mix and none of that is playlisted..

Old, bald, fat and cantankerous to be precise.

There are 57 songs on all the Radio 1 playlists at the moment. That’s less than 4 hours worth.

To be fair you’d end up brain dead if you listened to radio 1 for 4 hours. And if you actually expressed the desire to listen to radio 1 for 4 hours, then we can take it as read that brain death was your starting point

So lets say about 10 minutes per record by the time they’ve done some talking, interviews, news etc. That pads the 4 hours out to 9.5 hours. Seeing as Moyles plays almost nothing upto 10, and Zane starts at 7 that’s less than 9.5 hours……..

Agreed though Ferne cotton and Greg James* make me reach into the glovebox for for a CD. Ironicaly for STW I think there’s both David Gray and Nickleback in there…………..

*Scott Mills I find ammusing though, hate me

What is the purpose of art and music? to educate, to entertain, to challenge, etc. Different people, different reasons.

I can’t remember Didos musical efforts educating, entertaining or challenging anyone, she did make dull music for simpltons, which either made me want to Smash up the device playing it, or block up my ears with Araldite (whichever was quickest)…

Does that make her work ‘Art’ or ‘Shite’?? – for those that need it spelling out That’s a Rhetorical question and the answer is not ‘Art’…

She’s probably coining it in yankland now; where just about anyone seems able to carve out a lucrative niche by simply having once had some association with musical performance of some sort, she’ll be a judge on some tossy tallent show sooner or later no doubt…

she is reasonably fit and very rich though definitively worth complimenting her on her music so she may perform fellatio on me.

I’m rather upset that Dido has provoked this much of a reponse, to be honest.

Dido the Queen of Carthage?

I quite liked some of her stuff. There, i said it. At uni was the go to album when taking a girl home.

Old, bald, fat and cantankerous to be precise.

You forgot always to blame and cuddly x

I am deeply amused that a thread about dido has run for so long and includes punching children in the face for being off key. Splendid, splendid work all.

2 hours of it could be the Essential Mix and none of that is playlisted..

Naturally. I’m not suggesting that all the play is the playlist, but that they have a list of songs they play until you want your ears to bleed. When I was writing my first novella I had nothing but a pen, paper, desk and FM clock radio.
I wanted to die.