Well scotland didnt get independance, thread

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/referendum-survey-suggests-a-slender-majority-of-young-people-voted-no.25407723

Assuming it’s representative of the electorate. Looks like we can stop blaiming “craven pensioners”

I blame the SNP mob

Their study of 3,188 voters showed that 51 per cent of those aged between 16 and 24 voted No. It also revealed that more than one in five SNP supporters turned their backs on independence.

It’s never been a secret that people voted for the SNP at the last election who didn’t support indy, but did like the left leaning policies on offer.

Indeed – I’ve voted several times for the SNP because I thought they generally did a fairly decent job and I liked their policies.
But I was never convinced by independence.

Technology boost for Scotland’s oil reserves in North Sea 😆

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29342142

Its not even a week. Hahaha! 😆 lies and deceit eh thm?

Not really, smart water, bright water or lo sal has been around for quite sometime….http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/intelligent-energy/bps-secret-sauce-for-more-oil-less-salt/

I know it has. Its the sudden reporting of it and decades of extra north sea oil I’m talking about. Apparently there was only 20 years of it left! 😆

seosamh77: the issue isn’t just how much oil is left. It’s also cost of extraction. Technology to extract oil improves all the time but that technology is becomes increasingly expensive as they chase smaller and harder to reach reserves. At some point it becomes cheaper to get the oil elsewhere with bigger or easier to reach reserves.

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the issue isn’t just how much oil is left. It’s also cost of extraction.

And in the case of the referendum debate the predicted price that oil will fetch in the future. The SNP/Salmond repeatedly claimed during the referendum debate that Scotland had £1.5tr worth of oil reserves – a claim backed by few other people. And seosamh’s link doesn’t vindicate that claim.

Quantifying oil reserves isn’t easy, predicting the future price of oil isn’t easy, exaggerating both oil reserves and the future price of oil is extremely easy.

The SNP/Salmond were quite rightly challenged and criticised for offering the Scottish people very dubious figures concerning Scotland’s predicted oil wealth/reserves.

Its not the amount of oil or the price of a barrel I’m highlighting. Its the positive reporting that was non existent before last Thursday.

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I saw a lot of positive reports about North Sea oil during the campaign. But the SNP seemed to want to gamble the future of Scotland on it.

Its the positive reporting that was non existent before last Thursday.

I wonder what the BBC/ openly biased media were supposed to report?

A Heriot-Watt University team said they had made a breakthrough in developing clean and cheap methods to maximise extraction from existing fields.

I would guess that the media are pretty reactive to a story like this, the team at the Edinburgh based university make a breakthrough and announce it, the media report it. I don’t really see how they could have reported it before the breakthrough was made and announced.

or is Heriot-Watt university part of the conspiracy as well now?

Ask NW

C’mon Joe, if you are trying to score a point at least make it a good one.

😆 youse are only kidding yourselves on.

Its not the amount of oil or the price of a barrel I’m highlighting. Its the positive reporting that was non existent before last Thursday.

Of course, why would this be a surprise to anyone? Too late now.

Westminster did a reasonably good job of protecting the UK’s interests against a a potential split lead by the SNP.

Blame AS for not convincing enough of your countrymen to vote yes, good luck in another 20 years.

This shit just broke for real

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/09/20/worlds-largest-oil-field-found-off-scottish-coast/

Maybe.

Of course, why would this be a surprise to anyone?

You knew about the Heriot-Watt research before they published it?

Actually it probably is a conspiracy by HW to make the UK government look bad.

The image usage is class.. Sun setting on a oil rig. Mist clearing to reveal another rig. 😆 no bias here, move on..

Sun setting on a oil rig. Mist clearing to reveal a rig.

I’m calling it here and now…

Stock photos, nothing more.

Now, get back to your grassy knoll.

Just happened to pick those? 😆

So, you haven’t answered on the Heriot-Watt university question seosamh…

Are they part of the conspiracy or not? Did they hold back news of this technological breakthrough until after the referendum?

Dunno.

Just happened to pick those?

Well, if there’s hidden meaning in the photo choice. I look at those photos as if I’m looking east away from land.

So that’s a sunrise, not a sunset.

Or are you a natural pessimist? 😛

Dunno.

Said most of the electorate…..

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piemonster – Member
Just happened to pick those?
Well, if there’s hidden meaning in the photo choice. I look at those photos as if I’m looking east away from land.

So that’s a sunrise, not a sunset.

Talk about contrived reasoning. 😆

I’ve been learning from Facebook 😉

CaptainFlashheart – Member
Dunno.
Said most of the electorate

aye you forget. It’s not 1979 or 1997 anymore. There will be an overwhelming public record of the bullshit stored on webservers the world over for next time! 😉

Talk about contrived reasoning.

No more, or less, contrived than your reasoning.

Technology boost for Scotland’s oil reserves in North Sea

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29342142

Its not even a week. Hahaha! lies and deceit eh thm?

As juanking says, it’s old news , no game changer, no BBC conspiracy, it’s a press release being picked up by the press. Other news websites are available. Take your tin foil hats off.

Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?

CaptainFlashheart – Member
Talk about contrived reasoning.
No more, or less, contrived than your reasoning.

folks here work in the finance and know that shit. I work in graphics. And I know who’s doing the contriving here. 😆

wanmankylung – Member
Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?

there was an oil industry marketing video kicking about before the ref. Can’t find the thread at the moment to check how it tallies with the article mind. Might fire it up later if I can find it again.

Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?

I think the article is in relation to an update of the original paper. Hence the press release.

Not that sure tbh.

A quick google finds a related article on newsnet

Please don’t, I doubt anyone gives a toss.

Everyone was given until Thurdsay to wallow in self pity and bitterness. One hour to go and then let’s have some cheery sunshine from our friends north of the border.

The image usage is class..

Never about the photo used, what about the article ?

In case you haven’t read it, and you probably haven’t, this is what it says :

The chairman of a Scottish government commission into the future of North Sea oil has said the industry would be “hard-pushed” to extract 15bn barrels.

Melfort Campbell was responding to Sir Ian Wood’s assertion that predictions of up to 24bn barrels were too high.

On Thursday, First Minister Alex Salmond insisted that 24bn barrels of oil could be recovered.

But Mr Campbell, who chaired the independent expert commission on oil and gas which was commissioned by the Scottish government to find ways to maximise oil and gas extractions, said the 24bn figure was the “aspirational scenario”.

Further warning over North Sea oil extraction figures

So the man trusted by the SNP Scottish government to advise them on how the maximise extraction of North Sea oil challenges the SNP/Salmond 24bn figure, and you want to castigate the BBC for reporting it ?

Well thank **** you guys didn’t win the vote last Thursday, if that’s your attitude towards journalism.

teamhurtmore – Member

Ask NW

We totally are. Actually we had an official policy of impartiality but I don’t think that would have affected this either way. There’s most likely industry funding behind it which could bring in other considerations.

If anyone’s really curious, I could ask.

Everyone was given until Thurdsay to wallow in self pity and bitterness. One hour to go and then let’s have some cheery sunshine from our friends north of the border.

Pssst – you have fewer friends north of the border than what you had last week.

I wonder if the impending brain drain from Scotland was considered as a potential outcome of a No vote. It may well just be my extended circle of acquaintances, but there are a lot of highly qualified people making firm plans to leave Scotland forever.

I wonder if the impending brain drain from Scotland was considered as a potential outcome of a No vote.

All the clever people are leaving Scotland …… forever ?

Gosh.