Weight loss – 5.2kg in one week!

4 hours a week training? Training for what? You will never win anything with a “training regime” like that.Get real.
You spend more than that posting on threads like this.
Not helpful I know but FFS ❓

As above, I am aware that it’s not enough. It is not my plan, it’s what ends up happening.

I do think that 6-9 could be enough though.

Even if 6 – 9 hrs is enough, how much base training do you think you’ll need to do before you get to that phase?

I do think that 6-9 could be enough though

Not to win it won’t. But go on… prove us all wrong.

EDIT – You even entered the Ben Nevis Tri yet, or is that another dream?

Not entered yet, no.

We will find out how much base training I need, or if 6-9 hours is indeed enough to complete what’s billed as ‘the hardest triathlon in the UK’ and not come last.

Come on, set me a target. Where do you think I’ll come given my rubbish training record?

You won’t do it. Simple as that. You’d already have entered if you were intent on it.

Edit: Target #1 Enter tonight.

We will find out how much base training I need,

How?

I do need to investigate more, I do want to do it.

To do what?

We will find out how much base training I need,

Base training for what? You’re a type 2, fast twitching coiled spring waiting to blast off at full pelt for 10-20 seconds.

I’m not entirely fast twitch. If you have more fast than slow you can change that. If you start off with more slow than fast, you can’t go the other way.

I hate signing up early, Sod’s law means I’ll catch a cold or fall off my bike the day before. So far this year:

Duathlon – signed up 1h before the start

Local X-C MTB champs – signed up 1h beofre the start

Ski mountaineerign race – didn’t sign up as it was cancelled due to dangerous conditions by sign up time

Ski Mountaineering race – signed up three days before (or a team mate did)

Winter triathlon – signed up three days before (1h before deadline)

Winter triathlon – signed up a week before and about four days before the deadline (my main objective for the year)

Heh 🙂 I was waiting to find the spare money to sign up, but I guess I can this month.

The event in question is the Ben Nevis Tri btw.

So you’re pretty normal then.

The average person has approximately 60% fast muscle fibre and 40% slow-twitch fibre (type I). There can be swings in fibre composition, but essentially, we all have three types of muscle fibre that need to be trained.

I still can’t help thinking that you’re either trying to do the impossible or providing the excuses before you fail. All I see are problems and no solution finding.
Good luck in the race and I look forward to the next diet thread at Christmas.
😀

All I see are problems and no solution finding.

Read more closely then!

Don’t delay Molly… sign up tonight!

Read more closely then!

All I can see is what you can’t do or what doesn’t work for you.

Surely that’s part of finding a solution?

So.. I was thinking of a long run tonight but now I’m not so sure. Intervals perhaps.

Do it Mol. Actually do both… do 12k…. 1k intervals alternating between your marathon pace and your 5k pace.

And enter the flipping race!

molgrips – listening to what people suggest might help you find a solution.

Unless you are an alien your approach to nutrition is distinctly odd. Get more long acting carb on board early, ditch all the sugar / maltodextrin.

You are overworking your insulin metabolism and thus having sugar crashes hence the cravings for sugar. You are taking in huge ridiculous amounts of calories in short acting carbs. ( unless you have changed your diet and I missed it)

Surely that’s part of finding a solution?

I guess that depends on what you’re plans are when you discover that none of the solutions work.

I guess that depends on what you’re plans are when you discover that none of the solutions work.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go…

My feeling is that if I get the training done I’ll lose the weight as long as I don’t pig out.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go…

You haven’t got a clue, but you think you have.

In fact I am still giving the second idea my best shot, but modified to try and fix the issues I’ve experienced.

Too many

If’s

with you ol’ chap.

You’ll hit 40 thinking of the ‘what could’ve been’s’.

I reflect on what you said you did with the iDiet… did you give it the 3 weeks… IIRC, did you balls.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go…

Or would it be better to match the solution with the correct objective?

The world is almost entirely composed of ifs.

Or would it be better to match the solution with the correct objective?

Well that’s why I stopped doing enduro races.

Track racing is quite secretive…

The more you do things that you know you shouldn’t and get away with it the less you worry about nutrition.

Yesterday we did a trip up the Tourmalet and back, 182km. Müesli for breakfast and then cerael bars and chocolatines on the way up. In Luz we stopped at Carrefour and bougth a loaf of bread, a 350gm cheese, a carton of orange juice, a big packet of salted crisps and a 200gm bar of chocolate. Between the three of us we scoffed the lot and rode home – feeling fine.

edukator – thats actually decent fuelling. a nice mix of long and short carbs with fats, salt and protein

Well that’s why I stopped doing enduro races.

But want to do xc mtb which essentially the same. Stick to track cycling and focus on sprinting.

My feeling is that if I get the training done I’ll lose the weight as long as I don’t pig out

god I said I wouldn’t do this….weight loss happens in the kitchen mostly.

emsz – my good lady had read through this thread and is loving your work. We’re going to use stalking you as a sort of joint hobby… ‘kay?

a loaf of bread, a 350gm cheese, a carton of orange juice, a big packet of salted crisps and a 200gm bar of chocolate. Between the three of us we scoffed the lot and rode home – feeling fine.

Sounds healthy and balanced enough to me – only missing some salad.Not sure I would have split it three ways though 🙂

weight loss happens in the kitchen mostly.

Cake shop in Mollys case

But want to do xc mtb which essentially the same

Don’t think so…?

Well it certainly isn’t an anaerobic sprint pushing you to 90% or AT, is it? So yes, it is an aerobic exercise and essentially the same.
Or perhaps you’d like to educate me.

Well it certainly isn’t an anaerobic sprint pushing you to 90% or AT, is it?

Depends on the course. At a typical Gorrick it’s mostly a series of anaerobic sprints with very little rest in between.

Really?

Anaerobic exercise is exercise intense enough to trigger anaerobic metabolism. It is used by athletes in non-endurance sports to promote strength, speed and power and by body builders to build muscle mass. Muscle energy systems trained using anaerobic exercise develop differently compared to aerobic exercise, leading to greater performance in short duration, high intensity activities, which last from mere seconds up to about 2 minutes.[1][2] Any activity lasting longer than about two minutes has a large aerobic metabolic component.

Again I am being bold here by suggesting that if you are constantly pushing the anaerobic threshold in a XC race, your technique is wrong. This would also point to a lack of fitness to my untrained eye as you should be working aerobically for anything but very short course races. And this is perhaps where you’re having problems.
I don’t know the courses you’re talking about so I can’t be specific, but I think your racing strategy is perhaps a bit wrong.

Again I am being bold here by suggesting that if you are constantly pushing the anaerobic threshold in a XC race, your technique is wrong.

You might have a point, I am not a very good XC racer. However I would have thought it much quicker to sprint up a short steep 30s climb knowing you have a rest on the other side than to twiddle up it in the little ring…

It’s lots of short periods of anaerobic effort with rests. It’s not a time trial after all.

Molgrips, you gotta be trolling.

Huh, I never realised how stupid I was.

Buy yourself an hrm so that you can have a better idea of your thresholds, I doubt you’re anaerobic for 30 seconds or that you are ridding yourself of sufficient lactic acid in the short rest period before the next anaerobic hammering.

However I would have thought it much quicker to sprint up a short steep 30s

Not if you blow and can’t finish the race.
I honestly think that you’re getting a bit confused between different terms, what they mean and what it means in relation to your body.