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  • thols2
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    China letting Putin know who’s boss.

    shermer75
    Free Member

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/%3famp

    Thanks for posting that Mark Hertling interview. He did an excellent article back in April about the differences in how Russia trains their soldiers (I think it was posted on this thread)- very insightful^^

    The proper NATO Military NV kit is bonkers money and utterly impractical to issue en masse

    Mate, you’ve gone for top of the line there. Absolutely no need, monocles work just as well for dismounted troops, there is a huge array of different options available in single or double tubes that although not current gen would give UKR an advantage.

    That 4 tube goodness is special kit only and for good reason.

    kelvin
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    China not so keen

    https://ft.trib.al/BPWawDk

    Russian president Vladimir Putin has acknowledged Chinese “concerns” about the war in Ukraine at his first in-person meeting with President Xi Jinping since the invasion.

    Putin’s comments in a meeting with Xi in Uzbekistan on Thursday were the first public admission of differences between Beijing and Moscow over the war in Ukraine.

    hatter
    Full Member

    Mate, you’ve gone for top of the line there… That 4 tube goodness is special kit only and for good reason.

    But….. shiny!

    Jordan
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    piemonster

    On the subject of “liberation” this is a translation from an RIA Novosta article, I wont quote as it needs to be read in full to really appreciate what its saying, and how that would translate into action on the ground.

    https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/what-should-russia-do-with-ukraine-translation-of-a-propaganda-article-by-a-russian-journalist-a3e92e3cb64
    Posted 13 hours ago

    That is seriously scary reading.

    leffeboy
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    This amazed me

    Reading the comments it appears that he isn’t texting his pals but more likely he is using a targeting app that they have now.  The idea is that targets are fed in by various sources, humans, drones, etc and the app will automatically select the most appropriate thing to fire at the target based on how far it is away, what it is trying to hit etc.  HQ get involved with authorisation.

    The idea of that being mixed in with automatic weaponry is more than a little scary.

    slowoldman
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    That is seriously scary reading.

    Not really, it’s just typical propaganda.

    dissonance
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    The idea of that being mixed in with automatic weaponry is more than a little scary.

    The Ukranians have been using apps for artillery for a while. Not always successfully as back in 2016 it was discovered the Russians had managed to push a dodgy version of an app the Ukranians were using so they could locate the artillery units.

    funkrodent
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    There seems to be an increasing amount of noise that Lyman has fallen / is about to fall. Important as it acts as a bridgehead to attack North towards Russian lines east of the river and through to Svatove (logistics hub), as well as Severodonetsk to the East, with all the strategic and political implications that an assault there would have.

    If the Ukrainians can take Lyman and advance North and East from there, it will indicate that the Kharkiv campaign is more than just a blitzkrieg through poorly defended Russian territory  essentially that the Ukrainians can sustain and develop this into something bigger and more sustained.

    Fingers 🤞

    shermer75
    Free Member

    There seems to be an increasing amount of noise that Lyman has fallen / is about to fall.

    I’m not seeing this anywhere

    shermer75
    Free Member
    thols2
    Full Member

    funkrodent
    Full Member

    I’m not seeing this anywhere

    Just various posts on twitter. In fairness I’m not able to confirm veracity. However it does seem that Dubrova and Siversk have fallen, which means that UA are established over the river and able to attack Lyman in the flank from the South East. Surely just a matter of time..

    jkomo
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    Leffeboy those lads will have some serious hearing problems after that. I guess their worries are way beyond tinnitus.

    piemonster
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    Im not sure I’ve heard much from the French team investigating the claims at Bucha?

    timba
    Free Member

    Advancing UKR troops have found a mass grave in Izium. 440 mostly civilian population buried there, many with injuries consistent with military attacks. The causes will need to be properly investigated

    Russia is also preventing the UN and Red Cross from accessing UKR PoWs, access that the UN thinks will evidence torture and general ill-treatment

    timba
    Free Member

    Ursula Von der Leyen discussing EU sanctions (which include UK) said, “It needed a certain amount of time for them to unfold their impact, and this is visible now”

    Germany has increased pressure by taking control of Rosneft Deutschland and SEFE (Gazprom Germania). This gives Germany control of its fourth largest oil refinery. Perhaps they can now begin to contribute a little more to the Ukrainian cause? https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker

    kimbers
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    This gives Germany control of its fourth largest oil refinery. Perhaps they can now begin to contribute a little more to the Ukrainian cause?

    As pointed out b4 they are the 3rd biggest donor of weapons, biggest donor of medical aid & have taken over a million refugees …

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    Leffeboy those lads will have some serious hearing problems after that.

    I’m guessing they already do and that’s why they are not wearing protection

    shermer75
    Free Member

    As pointed out b4 they are the 3rd biggest donor of weapons, biggest donor of medical aid & have taken over a million refugees

    True, they are the 3rd biggest donor…but it is a very distant 3rd. Less than half what the UK have delivered, and less than Poland with regards to military aid. A pretty poor showing considering the size of their economy

    timba
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    As pointed out b4 they are the 3rd biggest donor of weapons, biggest donor of medical aid & have taken over a million refugees …

    Compare Kiel Uni figures for various countries https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker
    Germany’s total commitment ranks 13, which is poor for a country that ranks 4 for GDP
    Poland has taken 3.5 million refugees (more than half the total) and ranks 22 for GDP
    Germany has hidden behind promises that it’s only just starting to fulfill and, in the words of my last headteacher, must try harder

    X with shermer

    shermer75
    Free Member

    roverpig
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    That bar graph has been posted a couple of times I think, but isn’t Germany a big contributor to the “EU Institutions”?

    shermer75
    Free Member

    I’m guessing the chart shows the EU as a whole as well as each country separately?

    shermer75
    Free Member

    China letting Putin know who’s boss.

    Russia definitely is playing second fiddle to China now

    piemonster
    Free Member

    From that chart

    Includes bilateral commitments to Ukraine. Does not include private donations, support for refugees outside of Ukraine, and aid by international organizations. Commitments by EU Institutions include Commission and Council, MFA, EPF and EIB funds and can also be added to individual EU countries. Financial commitments that are made explicitly for military and weapons purchases are counted as military aid.

    shermer75
    Free Member

    They’re calling them ‘bomb attacks’, so I’m guessing someone locally planted the bomb rather than firing a long range missile or artillery shell?

    timba
    Free Member

    Germany found 50 Dingo armoured vehicles, two more Mars MLRS and 40 Marder IFVs down the back of the sofa yesterday. On Monday they couldn’t possibly spare any at all
    The Marders will go to Greece (largest contributor to NATO by GDP) who will supply 40 of their Soviet BMPs to Ukraine, the rest will go to UKR directly

    piemonster
    Free Member

    Reuters have picked up the Izium mass grave story

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-mass-grave-found-izium-where-russians-ousted-days-ago-2022-09-15/

    rope around their necks and hands tied

    kelvin
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    How is all the backfilling accounted for in those bar graphs linked to? When Germany and others supply third countries, freeing up older and more easily integrated stock that then goes on to Ukraine… is that included in the figures for the third country, or the country that is doing the donating rather than swapping?

    timba
    Free Member

    @kelvin I think that the whole contribution-thing is largely impenetrable to the casual observer, it would probably take a university project, similar to the Yale School of Management sanctions tracker.
    There are numerous funds, e.g. the European Peace Facility (EPF), and other mechanisms such as your example
    I’d be grateful to be proved wrong and be pointed to a one-stop site

    shermer75
    Free Member

    This is significant

    India is one of the great military powers in Asia. Modri was not mincing his words here, which apparently unusual for his diplomatic style, and India has for a long time had a military partnership with Russia- maybe this is an indicator of a shift in their relations?

    hatter
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    That is indeed a big deal, India get a pretty huge chunk of their military equipment from Russia.

    With Russia’s previously iron grip over the central Asian stans melting away as their military reputation has evaporated you have to wonder whether or not India sees an opportunity to supplant Russia as the patron of some of these resource rich territories.

    If so, this may their first move in a more confrontational relationship with Russia moving forward.

    If they don’t get their skates on then China certainly will be more than happy to get in there first.

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Exactly. I agree India most likely recognises China as it’s main rival for local socio-geographic influence now, and Russia’s clumsy and self-defeating invasion has dropped them down to somewhere near the bottom of their list of potentially useful allies

    matt_outandabout
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    Indeed that is a change of wind from India…

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    *gentle whistling in the background *

    kormoran
    Free Member

    ‘the future’s in the air’

    tthew
    Full Member

    Did you hear Putin’s pathetic, (but entirely predictable) public response though. We’ll yeah, we want to bring it to a close as fast as possible, but the Ukrainians won’t negotiate.

    Modi is quite the diplomat* managing not to call him a prick and just walk out.

    *I’m sure there’s a lot else, less polite many would call him.

    Mat
    Full Member

    Taaaaake meeee to the magic of the moment on a glory night…

    I take it you’ve listened to the wind of change podcast? (Guy investigates whether winds of change was a CIA soft power operation)

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