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Tottenham Riots
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TheSouthernYetiFree Member
Yeah, I just ran on in and looted the hell out of the 1,000th post!
Only went and bagged up on 500 too, din’t I!
seosamh77Free MemberI have no idea what a sensible solution is
clearly.. trying to understand why something is happening and condoning something are 2 completely different things.
FunkyDuncFree Member“So what do we think will happen tonight?”
Rumour has it that the Police are having to gear up for it kicking off in Sheffield tonight.
TandemJeremyFree Memberyossarian – Member
So what do we think will happen tonight?
I suspect a lot more knee-jerking, cries for bringing back hanging, send for the army etc etc
DobboFull MemberThey should get their lazy arses down to Buckingham Palace and torch that place, I’d be happy to see that. If it’s a genuine protest, then thats a good place to start.
JamieFree MemberI suspect a lot more knee-jerking, cries for bringing back hanging, send for the army etc etc
Feel free to step in with a solution at any time, TJ.
enfhtFree Memberbeaten to it
Don’t think I’ve heard that one, which album was it on?
hilldodgerFree Memberyossarian – Member
So what do we think will happen tonight?….……self righteous indignation, polarised rhetoric (in red, blue and green flavours), accusations of racism, pleas for understanding the disenfranchised, touch of hand wringing, bit of mud slinging, plenty of copy’n’pasting, and much petty point scoring 👿
franksinatraFull MemberPolice have started releasing CCTV images of suspects.
Not sure if you need to be a Detective to recognise this one from Croydon, everyone know the Colonel!
akiraFull MemberI think a nice simplistic punishment system would be good. If you catch a looter then he gets put in a room with the owners and family of the shop he looted, obviously this wouldn’t work for the larger chain stores but they could hire someone to stand in for them.
Obviously I don’t really think this would work but the whole thing is just crazy.
I did see a comment from a policeman saying most of the people looting were the ones who’ve been through the courts again and again and are still running around……not a huge shock they don’t fear the consequences of their actions is it?LiferFree MemberAre these scrotes in some bizarre way reacting against the meaninglessness of a world based on ‘I-want-it-now’ consumerism, in the only way they know how (anger/violence), crying out for something with more substance (the poor dears)??
Apologist!
hilldodgerFree MemberJamie – Member
TandemJeremy – Member
I suspect a lot more knee-jerking, cries for bringing back hanging, send for the army etc etcFeel free to step in with solution at any time, TJ.
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That’s the problem I have with much of what TJ posts, plenty of opposition with no proposition – I’m sure there’s some positive thoughts somewhere in that planet sized brain, just wish he’d share some of them…..
FuzzyWuzzyFull MemberWith 16,000 police out tonight I can see it being a lot calmer, the
disaffected youthwork shy criminal scum are probably just about intelligent enough to realise there won’t be such easy pickings for theirvalid expression of disgust with their lotgreedy looting. I expect it will kick off again towards the end of the week though.NorthwindFull MemberIt’s a big problem… Not sure why someone should have to have a solution to the whole thing before they’re allowed to start pointing out individual bits of bulls**t.
yossarianFree MemberYou guys……. 🙄
On the streets I mean.
I think people will be staying in their communities more but with 16000 police on the streets theres bound to be confrontation. Perhaps this is the second phase?
LiferFree MemberThat’s the problem I have with much of what TJ posts, plenty of opposition with no proposition – I’m sure there’s some positive thoughts somewhere in that planet sized brain, just wish he’d share some of them…..
I like that he doesn’t pretend to have a solution. It’s more truthful than a lot of rubbish on here.
JamieFree MemberI like that he doesn’t pretend to have a solution. It’s more truthful than a lot of rubbish on here.
That just doesn’t scan.
cookeaaFull MemberBlah, Blah, Blah Riots, Blah social injustice, Blah blah public unrest…
This doesn’t get to the real core of the matter though does it????
No what we really want to know is Where’s my CRC order gone eh?!!?
jonbaFree MemberIt’s all right, Theresa May has a plan
Speaking on Sky News, she said that police intelligence and the support of local communities would help quell the disturbances.
“The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon,” she said. “The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.”
As those charged with offences appear in court today, “people will start to see the consequences of their actions”, Mrs May added.
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She also told BBC Breakfast that “parents need to be asking themselves where were their children, what were their children doing in the evening.”
So I predict a quiet evening and no news while everbody stays at home and behaves themselves.
Conincidentally as I’m of the curfew,water cannon, tear gas and rubber bullet opinion. While the majority may be disenfrachised it is the minority who are doing this and they should be dealt with severely.
TheSouthernYetiFree MemberIsn’t TeeJ suggesting that the problem is bigger, and runs deeper, than the wave of dusturbances that we’re seeing?
I’m pretty sure that he’s idenitified the cuts to youth services as being amongst one of the catalysts.
Unfortunately for the Gov’t… they are going to have to throw money at the problem… be it through increased policing in the first instance, or restoration of community projects in the longer term.
Of course money will also need to be spent on cleaning up the streets and by private individuals and companies on their own properties.
Could this be a lesson to the Gov’t of how short term savings may not be beneficial in the longer term?
LiferFree MemberJamie – Member
/sighHappy now?
🙂
But I don’t understand what you mean? It scans perfectly well?
M6TTFFree MemberThat’s the problem I have with much of what TJ posts, plenty of opposition with no proposition – I’m sure there’s some positive thoughts somewhere in that planet sized brain, just wish he’d share some of them…..
He’s too busy putting the stw massive in it’s place…
LiferFree MemberCould this be a lesson to the Gov’t of how short term savings may not be beneficial in the longer term?
Apologist
jonbaFree MemberBut within 24 hours, she backtracked and told MPs: “I don’t think anybody wants to see water cannon used on the streets of Britain because we have a different attitude to the culture of policing here. We police by consent and it depends on that trust between the police and the public.”
she’s said more.
See above re water cannons, you’re wrong (but probably not reading the stw forum).
trail_ratFree MemberCould this be a lesson to the Gov’t of how short term savings may not be beneficial in the longer term?
im no labour lover – but at the last election i have to say i was hearing gordon brown loud and clear as the only man i thought to have half an inclination as to how to get the country back on its feet …
TandemJeremyFree Membergoes back a lot longer TSY – as in the two posts I quoted from Ernie and Elf. We as a society have created an underclass of dienfranchised and alienated youth. See the quotes below.
So – solutions? Redistribution of wealth, end to the deliberate policy of creating a large pool of unemployed, thus a return to (nearly) full employment. Sensible drug laws, reform of the Met, investment in education.
Investment in social work / youth work.
and of course now – regain control of the streets calmly and methodically by using appropriate force by the police.
Still the most sensible stuff posted on here about the riots and how our society got so fracured as to allow this to happen. In order to heal we first must diagnose what went wrong.
Elfinsafety – Member
Personally, I feel what has sparked off this massive amount of unrest is the fact that many young people feel utterly powerless over many aspects of their own lives, and are exercising the one form of power they feel they actually have; aggression. I’m not condoning any of the violence in any way whatsoever, regardless of what various dickheads on here may think and have suggested; I think it’s a tragedy that so many people seem to think violence and crime is acceptable and even ‘fun’. It’s a f-ed up situation when so many people get caught up in the hysteria and madness. Those mindless idiots out there don’t even know what damage they are doing to their own communities, innocent people and even their own futures.
But I think it’s pointless to condemn; of course it’s flipping wrong. Of course it is. Any right-minded person knows this, and I dare say most of those involved will regret their actions once they grow up a bit and reflect on the consequences.
What concerns me is the level of hatred and anger within so many people. Including those making moronic statements on here.
Why are we living in a society where this is so rife? Why such massive divisions between members of our society?
Truth is that increasing numbers of people just don’t care any more, about their society, their community, and worst of all, themselves.
ernie_lynch – Member
The situation were are witnessing today was always eventually going to arrive, whichever party was in power – it’s been a pressure cooker ready to explode for a very long time. Youth unemployment stands at almost 1 million, the highest ever. And the total including those studying etc, is 3 million, ie 3 million young people not earning any wages at all. And yet they are sold daily the false unachievable dreams of fame and wealth. They are told day in and day out that they should aspire to own vast amounts of material wealth, and that to aspire for anything less than that represents failure.
And yet youth in huge swathes of our communities are given zero chance of achieving anything. Employers would rather opt for the easier and cheaper alternative of offering jobs to fully trained Poles or Lithuanians, than to give British school-leavers any hope of learning a trade. This attitude is backed up by the typical half-wits on this forum, who at any given opportunity vilify young people dismissing them all as chavs, lazy, feckless, etc.
Well all the pent-up frustrations have finally turned ugly, and very ugly too – I will be surprised if there are no fatalities after tonight. But no one should be very surprised – did anyone really think we could cripple Britain’s youth and then taunt them for being lame indefinitely ? And blaming it all on the Tories is far too simplistic. We haven’t arrived where we are because of something which happened back in May last year – you need to go much further back, years, if not decades.
derek_starshipFree MemberFear not. Theresa May has arranged for these to be ditributed “in high numbers” around the affected areas with a free Domino’s Meat Feast.
Who needs water cannon and baton rounds? THIS IS ENGLAND!
LiferFree MemberThe Southern Yeti – Member
“Apologist”
Sorry, what?
Nothing – just being silly.
RustySpannerFull MemberIndelible pink spray paint for the looters?
Might help with identification later?Just pick up every one with a pink stripe across their face and unless they own an Adam Ant album, arrrest them.
I might just spray a couple of people I don’t like anyway, just on the off chance.
TheSouthernYetiFree MemberNothing – just being silly.
Yep, me too.
But I got myself a tag on an adult thread that isn’t started by me, about me. I’m really quite proud so gonna head down the gym to check myself out in the mirror for an hour.
Please don’t type too much in my abscence it’s very hard keeping up with these proper topics.
enfhtFree MemberNothing’s stopping these young adults from dropping their faux-jamaican accents and seeking a better life abroad.
I don’t agree that borrowing even more of our grand-children’s money in order to invest in this underclass solves anything.
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