[Closed] The South is so much better than the North of England...

The south west is ace.. I wouldn't piss on the south east if it were on fire

Discuss please

Slow day under that bridge?

It's awful up here, please do yourself a favour and stay away. Please.

Northumberland is where it's at. Thread closed

This planet is ace.

There are some good and some bad people.

Some parts of the north and south are great and not so great.

Bristol rocks.

I never stop keep hearing about how great the north is.....

from all the norvun munkies living down here. 😉

Northern troll surely?
It's not better just different, though generally it's [s]yorkshire[/s] the north that likes to think it's better than anywhere else.

where are all the hills?
&
based on personal experiences the south east is the most racist part of the country.

I love the way the Southerners leave the near side lane of every motorway free for us northerners

javelin please

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UKIP voting map of uk

...it just is in every way nicer people in the South [b]better scenery[/b] and just generally better.

mrsmith, that map is missing some vital info.
General election? council election? what year?
what colour is ukip, coz they only got one seat in the GE.
or is it like purple = over 20% of vote or something?

We are all the same.

It's warmer and richer. I think that's it.

uphillcursing - Member
Slow day under that bridge?

Sometimes I feel like I don't have a partner
Sometimes I feel like my only friend
etc.

Great track! 😈

It's grim up north
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For God's sake stop posting photos of up 'ere. They'll come flooding in from down South.

From my general experience (as an impartial Welshman):

London: full past bursting point, ignorant and smelly. Good attractions but I just want to get out of there after a day or two.
England below Birmingham: full, ignorant and obsessed with flaunting wealth or moaning about their lack of wealth.
England above Birmingham: Lovely countryside and generally welcoming of visitors. The odd pocket of crap but generally fine.

Split a bit like Wales, except we do the split of South Wales/Valleys/The rest of it 😀

Prefer the North of both FWIW, currently living in the South 😕

It's lovely all over. Lovely in the North, lovely in the South.

Apart from London, that's a craphole.

A Southerner.

As a londoner, I'd rather live in the north (or Wales actually) for the scenery and outdoor adventure aspect but find that London is extremely diverse and accepting. I'm happy that my kids are growing up in a way that they are able to experience the diversity of London and absorb everything that it brings. I'm 15 minutes on the train to Westminster and don't go into town enough but on those sunny days when you can be sat at an outside pub on the Thames, there are very few places that I'd rather be.

Northumberland is where it's at. Thread closed

This is lies the OP is right.

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UKIP voting map of [s]uk[/s] England

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Yes without a doubt it is anyone that believes this should move there.

Given that 'the north' starts just past Exeter, I'm inclined to agree.

Yup it's crap oop north. Nothing to see, stay away.

Liverpool-born, Cheshire-bred and been in London for just over half my life and I reckon it's horses for courses - home is where the heart is and all that.

IME, Northerers are nicer, most of the time and the hills are proper ones but it rains a lot. Cost of living is a lot less but you need two winter bikes as winter lasts from October to April 🙂
Southerners - plenty of nice ones but keeping up with the Jones is a regional sport so can be harder to get a community feel. My London-based friends can't manage to hold a conversation about anything without turning to house prices after 60 seconds. They weren't so bad 10 years ago mind.
Spring and Summer weather is definitely better down South and sometimes the lack of hills is a blessing. Winter is rubbish when you want to go and play in snow though, although weirdly enough the most deadly avalanche ever in the UK was in Lewes in Sussex when a big dump of snow slid off the South Downs...

Love where we are, did 75 km on the road bike yesterday with views that made me involuntarily start humming the tune to 'Jerusalem' walked out of the front door this morning and took my wee man for a potter in the bluebells but within 40 minutes I can be right in the middle of the greatest city on earth.(that's be London BTW I said greatest, not nicest)

But then again I also love Snowdonia, the Peaks and the Tweed valley and have friends all over, if you get awy from the concrete 60's vileness that still infects so many of our towns we actually livevin quite a beautiful country. I've travelled s fair bit and I still haven't found anywhere if rather be.

Some mountains would be nice. But you can't have everything.

"it's yorkshire the north that likes to think it's better than anywhere else."

What's this think business, we know.

However we are deluded and it's proper crap. The weather always bad, the pies are rubbish, the beer much more expensive than that London gnats piss, everything is just terrible. Be advised its much better to stay down there, don't come up here, we all support UKip and hate you all.

Those northerners who think the south is crowded and busy have only visited the wrong places. I'm not a southerner, but I take the time to find the good places wherever I go and there are plenty down South. Just as there are plenty of overcrowded busy unpleasant places up north.

However, having spent extends periods in the South, the weather is definitely much better. Last summer for example I had more or less constant sunshine and dry trails.

I beg to differ on the Northern beer front, I'll agree Masham (Black Sheep) do some lovely beer but that's a given. What the North lacks is independent pubs that sell real beer instead of John Smiths piss
The Bell in R'ogae is the only place for miles and miles that sells a range of local small Brewers ale, the rest of the pubs are Theakston owned and sell water with one hop in it.
And yes, I've scoured the Dales looking for real beer.

The weather is, and normally is,10C colder, wetter and cloudier. It stays Winter for 6 months of the year, you get a day of sunshine and a whole world of rolled up t-shirt, white socks, jeans and either "best" black shoes or freshly washed white trainer wearing brigade hang around looking either solemn or down their noses at normal people.

You also have some of the most selfish and arrogant drivers.

The countrysides nice though, you've got some of the most pleasant landscapes found anywhere on the planet.

Edit, you know I ride around the North York Dales (Harrogate etc) so I'm only picking on this bit because I know it so well.

What the North lacks is independent pubs that sell real beer

That's patent nonsense I'm afraid. Even Accrington, the North's equivalent of Syria, has its own [url= http://www.thebigclockbrewery.co.uk/ ]microbrewery[/url]. And the [url= http://www.threebsbrewery.co.uk/ ]Three B's[/url] is just up the road. And there's Moorhouse's, Thwaites...

I live in North Wales, 5 miles from the Clwydians.

It's lovely.

Furry taps down south and furry kettles

Cumbria and the Dales are massively overrated. I wouldn't bother if I were you.

What the North lacks is independent pubs that sell real beer

No we've none of them at all. 🙄

That's patent nonsense I'm afraid. Even Accrington, the North's equivalent of Syria, has its own microbrewery. And the Three B's is just up the road. And there's Moorhouse's, Thwaites...

I concur with the assessment of the Dales area, there is a distinct lack of freehouses, they all tend to be tied pubs. The freehouses tend to be shut and boarded up. It was a comment about pubs not breweries, we have a fab diverse brewing tradition in this country. Many of the tied/pubco pubs tend to flout the requirements of the Thatcher beer-order by 'guesting' a beer from within their own company. Which is a crying shame.

Don't be too hard on the OP, he has a lot of things to worry about.Just check his history,it's a shame.

Born and bred in the midlands, educated in midlands/Scotland, spent much of my youth in Lakes, married a Northern lass, worked and lived down south

Conclusion: south and north better than the middle!!

Find peace on Loughrigg Fell, Surrey Hils and St Andrews links - we live in a lovely part of the world!

Cougar - admire the sentiment but Thwaites isn't the best example, mate. Plenty of others though. There's about 5 close to us in the Lost Kingdom of Darwen.
Meanwhile, back to the OP, on a trolling level I'd give that a generous 3/10.

Theres dust on T`Standedge now ............tha knows 😆

Oh christ, it's another unfitgeezer erectile dysfunction thread.

Personally I'm waiting for the inevitable "why isn't everyone white" thread for maximum points.

In other news, look at this beautiful blossom at the allotment today.

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Nope Cougar, I'm talking about Harrogateshire and the Dales, includes Ilkley, Skipton, Grassington, Hawes (Masham excluded) Ripon, Kirkby Malzard, even going into the Vale of York is a desert of real ale pubs.

Accrington, well I'm sure you have one or two there, enjoy a pint whilst I drive around in circles looking for a decent pint instead of going down the Bell again.

Anyway, won't be up there for a few months so I'll let you enjoy the yellow thing in the sky whilst you have it.

My local (in the Dales) has a selection of 6 ales on tap which change every time I've been in. The 3 or 4 other pubs here seem to have a couple each, though I don't bother going in them much for obvious reasons.

The North is absolutely rubbish. I open my curtains every morning and breath a heavy sigh of despair as I look out on the grim view of all those boring tedious hills and their rubbish trails.

I only live here so you don't have too.

You stay down there.

No-one seriously says the north is rubbish. However some northerners seem to seriously think the whole south is rubbish. I used to think that until I worked there. There are rubbish bits, of course, both shitty places and a unique kind of rich rubbishness, however there are lots of fantastic bits. And there is loads of good rising too in places. As above, the Midlands is probably the worst region for riding, overall. Bit even there there are good pockets .

Unlike say, the US, where there can be no riding at all for hundreds of miles.

Well thecaptain clearly you want to keep that pub to yourself.. 🙄

...there are nice people in the South, great scenery and just generally lovely, like many other parts of the country.

The Chilterns are shocking, there aren't endless trails fantastic climbs & descents, wonderful green forests of outstanding natural beauty blessed with gorgeous quick drying single track or-quiet country lanes, just labour hating Tory Land Rover driving nibys (no irony in the last bit) 🙂

It was a comment about pubs not breweries

The two I linked to were both brewery tap pubs.

Cougar - admire the sentiment but Thwaites isn't the best example, mate.

True, I really just threw it in there as one someone would have heard of.

Nope Cougar, I'm talking about Harrogateshire and the Dales

Fair enough.

Mol grips you have lived in Hadfield, that's proof enough that the north is better than the south. Mind Padfield is better.

Ha! Harrogate the northern town for those that really think they are cosmopolitan Londoners. WA.kers all. It's the only town that would vote against a free Yorkshire.

We live in Co Durham but have family in Scotland Surrey Stockport etc. My take is there are lovely people all over the place but don't pretend you have proper countryside down south. It's all very Midsommer but all you really have is a strip of green belt between towns. 😆

Guessing that the OP is a southerner living in southernland, then surely the worst place and the place closest to the place most devoid of culture or anything remotely resembling intelligence is reserved for the poor sods that live next door to the OP, no?
Ergo, the worst place is the south.

I moved up North recently. I tell my Southern mates it's shite just so they don't follow suit and ruin it.

As somebody said earlier though, the standard of driving is woeful

My only other regret is that my boy will probably end up supporting Manc City/Utd or one of them Scouser teams

If I could I'd be out of the south and in the northeast like a flash!!

I like the North. I like the South. Now the Midlands on the other hand.... 😀

Hmm i'm in Harrogate, the riding is brilliant, the air is usually less poluted and i've got the Peaks, Dales, and Lakes within easy visit distance, yes terrible, don't know how I cope some days 😉

Wookster - Member

If I could I'd be out of the south and in the northeast like a flash!!

Move, you know it makes sense!!

I'm from the North,but I've lived in the South for a long time now.
Both are beautiful,both have occupants I'd class as undesirable . Food options makes the south officially better though.
What really upsets me though ,is that Li'l J will probably be a Gooner! (He already talks like a cockerny(sic) 🙂 )
5/10 for the trollage.

Nope Cougar, I'm talking about Harrogateshire and the Dales, includes Ilkley, Skipton, Grassington, Hawes (Masham excluded) Ripon, Kirkby Malzard, even going into the Vale of York is a desert of real ale pubs.

http://www.villagebrewer.co.uk/our-pubs/blind-jacks/

It's in Knaresborough BTW.

HTH.

Yeah food in the north is grim.

Molgrips wins at trolling though because there's no way he's being serious.

It's great that we love where we live....I'm pretty content too down here in Surrey. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't change a few things if I could. Nothing's perfect....although the weather was today!

The North is not a suitable environment for Southerners, the climate, food and sarcasm are simply not tolerable.

As long as the southerners think it's shit up north, that's fine by me

I think it's because we still use plates in the North, it confuses Southerners not having their 'lunch' served on wheel trim.

I agree with one of my best mates who's Lakes born and bred, who comes down to London fairly frequently: London ladies are very often absolutely smashing to look at but you'd struggle to get a very meaningful conversation from them that lasts more than a few minutes 🙂
There really are some who carry dogs in their handbags!

Molgrips wins at trolling though because there's no way he's being serious.

What? About the riding?

Am I the ONLY person on STW who's ridden in both the North and the South?

No-one seriously says the north is rubbish. However some northerners seem to seriously think the whole south is rubbish.

This bit.

We had a couple of nights in Ilkley earlier this year; found two great real ale pubs.

Wherever you are in the Uk, sitting on top of a bike an looking out at what you've achieved on a Sunny day is awesome.

I agree with the OP. I live in SW Sheffield, there are no good pubs or beer, coffee is uniformly dreadful and as for the riding, either on or off road, forget it - just dreadful! Houses very expensive too

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.

Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

When ma brutha done gone married his cousin hiss daddy done got him a new shootin' car. My daddy says I gotta marry me real purty laydee if ah wanna shooting Car but ah already dunn gonnand married ma hog. He's my best friend.

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.

Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

My son is from Durham. like me. He's lived in London for the past 8-10 years or so, Camden, Sydenham & now somewhere else that he's just moved to. Not his own place of course cos he's 'only' on 50K a year so can't afford anything less then a shitehole.
He's looking for jobs further North ATM, had enough of the shithole that it is.

I am lucky enough, and happy, to live in The North, but have reasons to visit The South (whatever those two terms may mean).

Happy with the situation as it stands.

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.
Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

I think London is a great city. I love visiting, however am in no way envious of people living there. It is possible to like a plave without wishing to live there.

London's great. It keeps the Cockneys away from the North.

They all live in Essex or Spain now.

bearnecessities - Member
Oh christ, it's another unfitgeezer erectile dysfunction thread.

Personally I'm waiting for the inevitable "why isn't everyone white" thread for maximum points.

You are a **** !