The Olympics

well the weightlifting was great, drama with a nasty injury, Chinese favourite playing it safe and then a Kazak lifter adding 4 kg onto the world record and lifting it

mind you it’s also probably one of the worst sports for doping so the results might not last the week

I wonder if anybody’s doing an alternative correct medals table where any medals won by Russians are re-allocated to the next athlete.

I did have a bit of sympathy for some of them who are presumably clean, but seeing Zabelinskaya winning a medal today makes me think that’s why none of them should be there, because she quite clearly shouldn’t be, and that would apparently have been the only way to keep those like her at home.

Can you celebrate a bronze like a gold if you were “beaten” by two Russians?

Lots I’m still looking forward to with people who I don’t think are on PEDs competing.

Japan into the rugby semi-finals, NZ and OZ sent home crying. Best thing to happen to rugby since SA and England getting humiliated at the WC last year. We should scrap 15 a side and just stick to sevens.

2 golds for Staffordshire will be the headline in our local paper.

Hey ho, at least we have Bolt to look forward to. The man who has run massively faster than the four other fastest proven drug taking sprinters in history.
Who to put his astonishing world record achievements into perspective, is akin to slaughtering an EPO riddled Armstrong up Ventoux, on a Raleigh Grifter.

I understand jaded cynicism, but I don’t get it particularly re Bolt. Just because someone’s faster than a drug cheat doesn’t automatically mean they have to be cheating too.

Re Bolt – he’s not even that good. He’s never run a decent 100m in his life, compared to his capability – all his times are flawed by a poor mstart, middle or finish – he’s not put his best 3 together yet and if he could would run another 0.1-0.2 faster. He’s just been blessed with an incredible body for the event that shouldn’t work but does.

There was a brilliant BBC programme on it, which i can’t find now but there’s a bit on it tomorrow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34089451

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/usain-bolt-worlds-fastest-man/0/built-for-speed-what-makes-usain-bolt-so-fast/

Although there is also the complete lack of any drug testing regime in Jamaica for many years allowing their athletes to dope unhindered out of season until a couple of years ago. The Jamaicans and the Kenyans should be viewed with exactly the same suspicions as the Russian athletes that have been allowed to compete.

Celebrating a bronze like a gold is exactly the reason you’ll never win gold.

You are Piers Morgan, and I claim my £5

NZ not performing to their usual standard in the 7s could be because they can’t take their dodgy juice that gives them the edge in those last minute situations where they always outperform the opposition and win.
As it’s the Olympics there is the danger of getting tested for dodgy juice so they have to go without .
Just a thought.

I thought Conway was unlucky and deserved to go through to final

The Kazak weightlifting celebrations were top drawer.

I wonder if anybody’s doing an alternative correct medals table where any medals won by anyone doping are re-allocated to the next athlete

FTFY

my guess and the way I view it is they are all doping just haven’t been caught yet

Why does swimming have such a high profile? For every race, the swimmers are announced individually and we have to watch them swagger out to the pool and take their tracksuit off one by one.

That’s the normal medal table isn’t it? You seem to have broken it.

my guess and the way I view it is they are all doping just haven’t been caught yet

Well I’m glad I don’t share your world view – I’m fairly confident (and my view is shared by those with far more knowledge of this than either of us) that most of them are clean.

One look at the table of banned athletes or athletes whom have tested positive and the total number damns each and every other athlete by virtue of the sheer volume of the guilty.

Re Bolt – he has utterly destroyed the competition by apparently not even running a perfect race. We aren’t talking about someone who is just a bit better than a few others, we are talking about a relative chasm of time faster – hugely faster than those with ‘better sprinting physiques and techniques’, all riddled with massive performance enhancing drugs.
The 4 closest men to him in the history of his event (miles behind Bolt, miles ahead of the rest) are all proven cheats.
To suggest/hope that this speed is purely down to his chicken nugget diet, long legs, and cheeky personality is pretty much absurd.
Unfortunately, Bolt defenders now sound like Armstrong defenders did, before the biggest doping scandal in history unraveled.

Despite this, bizarrely, I still hope that Bolt is clean.

This isn’t the Olympic doping thread, we can all do that if we want! This is a thread to discuss sport and our sportsmen and women trying their utmost, following years of training. Dismissing performances of people you know nothing about is just spoiling it and depressing me!

Go and start your own ‘glass half empty’ thread!

Rockape63

This isn’t the Olympic doping thread, we can all do that if we want! This is a thread to discuss sport

You should probably just ban the next person who breaks the rules on your forum.

Dismissing performances of people you know nothing about is just spoiling it and depressing me!

Sorry, but it’s a depressing affair. Human nature is generally to win at any cost. When the rewards are so high corruption and cheating are inevitable. The best I support I can muster is to find sporting heroes that you can offer a level of trust based upon truly decent personality. And hope for the best.

Plus campaign for transparent sporting organisation. The IOC has done enormous damage by letting Russia off the hook. One can only begin to imagine the influence Putin’s cronies had in that output.

My last comment on this (on this thread, feel free to do a doping thread as suggested), what is the volume of athletes who haven’t ever tested positive or been implicated in scandals? You can’t damn the majority for the actions of a small minority. Not that personal anecdotes matter, but even if you’re just sticking to Olympic athletes then you’re damning people I know and have trained with, who are certainly clean.

We done golf at the Olympics yet? What’s that about?!

Depends MrBlobby, is your glass half empty or half full?

Sorry to head back on topic but Katherine Grainger and Vicky Thornley just won silver. Wahey! 😀

They do at least seem not to spoil their walk by lifting both feet off the ground at once…

Lots of mixed emotions for Thornley and Grainger there – as the commentators keep saying a silver is an amazing result from where they came from (though I suspect that a week ago they knew how well they were going and that they did stand a chance), but they seemed to be struggling to contain the disappointment of not going one better given where they were with 30s to go. Hopefully they’ll go away really pleased with the silver (it’s not like Beijing where the quad were strong favourites), but I bet there will always be a little bit of thinking “what if”.

Jumping fish!

They do at least seem not to spoil their walk by lifting both feet off the ground at once…

Topical interjection there, the Italian walking precious gold medal winner has just been banned for eight years for steroid abuse. This following his previous ban for doping.
The daftest event of all, and cheating.

Fiji are quite good at 7’s is the non news of the day. Into final so guaranteed a first olympic medal for fiji

GB v Fiji in the 7’s final

GET IN YOU BEAUTIES!!!!

James Davies is pretty good at 7’s, quite surprised. However Mrs Anagallis twice referred to the team as England so we are now getting divorced!!

Everyone staying up for the final, then?

Wooohoooo

Fiji playing a different game to Britain. Has to be said GB are dull as **** to watch

Is that really Fijis first medal? Blimey. What time is the final?

slimjim78 – Member

The Russians shouldn’t be there. It’s one big horridly organised political shit-fest.

Worst atmosphere at an Olympics ever. The road race safety, green pool, crowds(?) are a shambolic joke.

Celebrating a bronze like a gold is exactly the reason you’ll never win gold.

Hey ho, at least we have Bolt to look forward to. The man who has run massively faster than the four other fastest proven drug taking sprinters in history.
Who to put his astonishing world record achievements into perspective, is akin to slaughtering an EPO riddled Armstrong up Ventoux, on a Raleigh Grifter.

Pfffftt.
Nope.

slimjim78 – Member

One look at the table of banned athletes or athletes whom have tested positive and the total number damns each and every other athlete by virtue of the sheer volume of the guilty.

Re Bolt – he has utterly destroyed the competition by apparently not even running a perfect race. We aren’t talking about someone who is just a bit better than a few others, we are talking about a relative chasm of time faster – hugely faster than those with ‘better sprinting physiques and techniques’, all riddled with massive performance enhancing drugs.
The 4 closest men to him in the history of his event (miles behind Bolt, miles ahead of the rest) are all proven cheats.
To suggest/hope that this speed is purely down to his chicken nugget diet, long legs, and cheeky personality is pretty much absurd.
Unfortunately, Bolt defenders now sound like Armstrong defenders did, before the biggest doping scandal in history unraveled.

Despite this, bizarrely, I still hope that Bolt is clean.
No, sorry.

slimjim78 – Member

Dismissing performances of people you know nothing about is just spoiling it and depressing me!

Sorry, but it’s a depressing affair. Human nature is generally to win at any cost. When the rewards are so high corruption and cheating are inevitable. The best I support I can muster is to find sporting heroes that you can offer a level of trust based upon truly decent personality. And hope for the best.

Plus campaign for transparent sporting organisation. The IOC has done enormous damage by letting Russia off the hook. One can only begin to imagine the influence Putin’s cronies had in that output.
No.

slimjim78 – Member

They do at least seem not to spoil their walk by lifting both feet off the ground at once…

Topical interjection there, the Italian walking precious gold medal winner has just been banned for eight years for steroid abuse. This following his previous ban for doping.
The daftest event of all, and cheating.

Still no…

… I can see that you’re trying to say something, you little ray of sunshine, you. But I’m just not seeing it.
Would it be possible to get to the point and actually say what you mean (repeatidly)? 😛

Was just watching on catch up there, fiji are different class eh? I now know what skill is in rugby! would expect them as favourites for the final, aye?

Have to say the rugby has been a class addition to the olympics. 🙂

final is at 11pm, bronze game is at 10.30. 🙂

Was just watching on catch up there, fiji are different class eh? I now know what skill is in rugby! would expect them as favourites for the final, aye?

They are wolrd champions, but england and SA beat them at the last cup (London 7’s). Scotland won that tournament so get loads of scots lads on innit?

would be shame for japan to finish this way, done well in the tourney. south africa rampant. hope they pull something back.

edit, good stuff, 14 – 7. :), 21-7 half time.

However Mrs Anagallis twice referred to the team as England so we are now getting divorced!!

😀

I had to endure the second half of GER-BRA handball.
Lots of emphasis on endure.

Incredibly squeaky game.

On a side note, yesterday 7s was shown (in Germany, via internet), but without commentary. It was great.
Now they’ve since guy commentating. The level is similar if i were to commentate on the ice dancing.

where does the extra time come from?

thought as much, SA march to the bronze 14-54.