Thatcher's died according to BBC

So, your defence of Denis is that the previous lot created the economic mess, and he was burdened with trying to sort it out…

How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I was ‘defending Dennis’……because I pointed out that the Tories were no better ? 😀

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

sbob

Here’s the rest of your post I cut-please elaborate

Sorry; will not bother reading, obviously. 🙂

Don’t remember Thatcher bailing out the banks, think that may have been good old socialist Gorden Brown.

Ah, the right wing trying to distance themselves from Blair and Brown by calling them “socialists.” 😆

I would also wonder how many of the predicable Thatcher bashers were even around at the time.

I was, not event from the North, but the home counties, so one would expect someone like me to be a tory voter…only I don’t lack humanity to be one.

Then you won’t have been disappointed.

Well not as disappointed as you have that your pages and pages of input have not raised that much response. I shall file you under W for whatever

I have no idea if you believe what you type – who knows you might just be that stupid but I doubt it and think you want to goad folk
Good Luck – watch Rattrap and learn young paddawan 😉

Err – i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications – C&G in agri engineering.

Ah, sorry, i foolishly took this to mean that you got no worthwhile quals

No troll, rightly or wrongly there was nobody to rely on so you just got on with it – nothing else to do. Sit on your arse getting bitter or make something of it.

Good for you, did you eve pause to think how we ended up in such a situation?

Hold on, the political big-hitters have been rolled out!

Err – i believe i said not much in the way of qualifications – C&G in agri engineering.

In the 80s and 90s at least, that trade would have been a reliable source of employment. How do you think you’d have got on in the steel or coal industry at the age of 53?

Ahhhh, i miss tractors,

Nipper99 – Member

Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

Nipper99 – Member

Err – i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications – C&G in agri engineering.

You “left school” with C&G in agri engineering ? Something doesn’t ring true 😕

No, he left college in 84 at 18, no 83, no hold on, what ever year it was that allows you to have voted for maggie twice,

ernie he left school in 84 [ with not much in the way of qualification] but got the qualification from college in 83 @ age 18 ] hence he could vote for her twice

Can he make it any clearer 😯

Clear as mud innit 😕

I shall file you under W for whatever

I like this 🙂

ernie he left school in 84 [ with not much in the way of qualification] but got the qualification from college in 83 @ age 18 ] hence he could vote for her twice

Can he make it any clearer

Poor fella was there for a year before he realised he had finished and could leave

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest he meant he left college at age 19 or something.

Regardless, the industry he was qualified for was far more stable than traditional heavy industry. Which was dying on its arse.

Junkyard – Member

Well not as disappointed as you have that your pages and pages of input have not raised that much response. I shall file you under W for whatever

I have no idea if you believe what you type – who knows you might just be that stupid but I doubt it and think you want to goad folk

I’m not goading anyone, other than in your words, the stupid. That is anyone that doesn’t agree with me, otherwise known as the gospel according to Junkyard.
I admire Thatcher, she made it to the top of a totally male dominated world, even if she did have many failings, which I have never denied.

All I called for was a bit of respect, but the lefties wouldn’t have it, and seeing as you too have chosen to be rude rather than have conversation, I’m out.

I was brought up to never speak ill of the dead and if i couldn’t think of one good thing to say about someone then it was best to keep quiet………….. but seeing as i had a txt from my dad this afternoon stating “the bitch is dead!” i say to hell with what i was taught ………c’mon?…………..lets party like it’s 1999.

I see that a crowd has gathered in Glasgow’s George square to mourn her passing 😉

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It’s a long way to Glasgow. Do you have anything nearer me?

I can never be crass enough to revel in the passing of another person. ultimately it just reflects badly on your true character.

Hated her politics but I can’t help feeling there will be a lot of people feeling strangely empty having carried such hate buried deep in their hearts for so long. Such a waste of energy and time that could have been spent on better things and a more positive life view.

Has Morrissey spoken yet?

Has Morrissey spoken yet?

Why? How many people voted for him?

The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.

Now, for proper Thatcher Porn – The way she says it…

The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.

She wasn’t old and confused at the time

If I knew you were going
I’d have baked a cake
Baked a cake, baked a cake

Good riddance to the evil witch. Not religious, but if there is hell, I hope she rots in it

The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.

What three labour election victories then a hung parliament after the biggest recession – WHAT A TRIUMPH

What three labour election victories

Sorry, I thought everyone agreed that Blair was a Thatcherite…

It was Gordon the socialist (nationalising the banks) who spannered it into the wilderness

Of course Morissey has spoken, from the bbc news ticker – all hail our great leader Morissey!….

Ex-Smiths singer Morrissey, a long-time critic of the former PM who berated her in songs such as Margaret On The Guillotine, says she was “barbaric” and “without an atom of humanity”, adding that “every move she made was charged by negativity”.

Perhaps he’ll speak his mind later on when he’s had time to form an opinion.

You work yourself up into such a confused state sometimes Zulu.

Junkyard – Member
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.

What three labour election victories then a hung parliament after the biggest recession – WHAT A TRIUMPH

Hardly, all that resulted was Labour having to reinvent itself to be more like her to become elected and now we have no viable alternative on the left

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-morrissey-blasts-1818903

The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.

There’s a great deal of truth in that comment.

EDIT : In fact I’ve checked and it sounds remarkably like something I posted a year ago :

But the Soft Left in British politics prefers to concentrate on Thatcher the person, to vilify her personally, and to hold her up as a hate figure – putting personalty before policies. Which not only shows a lack of political maturity and awareness, but also goes a long way in explaining why the Left in Britain has been completely ineffective for the last thirty years.

An old, very sick person, died in a hotel from her final of many strokes a few hours ago, having lived around ten years with dementia.

How she led her life is only the result of how she was brought up.

That is ALL she was.

As are YOU.

Debate her pros and cons fine, there’s a lot to discuss, but some of the comments here are just screaming erectile dysfunction.

RIP to a sick old woman.

Wow – Me and Ernie in agreement on something,

Hell really has froz…see – she’s arrived 😉

Wow – Me and Ernie in agreement on something

Indeed. And on the day of Thatcher’s death no less. No one could have predicted this.

He also hates the guardian reading lefties as well so who knew how much common ground you had 😉

FWIW that thread and that post [and I assume others on that theme]made me consider it and you did raise some excellent points about personalities and the failings of the left

It changed my view hence I “celebrate” this event less than I would have done so i am just unmoved rather than pleased

For what its worth, There was a very good, quite touching reflection on her by Gorbachev in the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/mikhail-gorbachev-margaret-thatcher-death

He also hates the guardian reading lefties …….

Well hate is a word you use, but the logic follows from this statement.

“But the Soft Left in British politics prefers to concentrate on Thatcher the person, to vilify her personally, and to hold her up as a hate figure – putting personalty before policies. Which not only shows a lack of political maturity and awareness, but also goes a long way in explaining why the Left in Britain has been completely ineffective for the last thirty years.”

BTW I do read the Guardian.

Doctors tonight have described Baroness Thatchers condition as “Satisfactory”

Plans for Thatcher’s grave have just been released.
Beautiful really, but I think they should have made the dancefloor bigger.

When I realised Margaret Thatcher was dead, I did a double fist pump and shouted, “Fking brilliant!” Everyone around me was disgusted, and looking back, I suppose it was out of order. Especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.

Margaret Thatcher’s final wish was to be cremated.
Unfortunately, we’ve no coal left

and I dont …funny old world innit