Thatcher's died according to BBC

Guys for all the wrongs/rights she has been involved with, at the end of the day she will be missed by her family RIP

Yes, give them the respect which she denied those who died under the atrocious regimes she supported

I agree rowlapa….it’s never nice to lose a loved one, and losing a parent must be incredibly tough, so my sympathies go out to them.

However, she was the one that chose to lead a public life and put herself incharge. Incurring the wrath of those whose life she ruined is fair game IMO. Yes she was just another pensioner that died of a stroke, but also was a hugely divisive figure that lived a large part of her life in the public eye shaping millions of lives-I fail to see why people whose life she’s ruined should feel compelled to feel any great sympathy to her.

rode the boom quite happily right upto the bust.

Name a party or person that wouldn’t do that.

You know how Regan dealt with problems in this period? He increased the debt window countless times.

Similar to New Labour. Increase public spending and reliance for boom or bust. It kept them popular but Maggies approach was the opposite.

But public spending rose under Thatcher

She was a decent woman with principles, and believed she was doing the best thing for the country.

I have a great distaste for many of her political actions and would never have voted for her, but RIP.

Charliemungus Libya? Saudi Arabia?

Public spending artifically kept Labour going.

Theres an art to it you know.

Its called a balanced economy.

Im out folks. Off to read some mags and buy a dessert. Peace

stumpypump and spongepad– go play with each other–i’m off out for a party whey hey!!

Erm.. Chile, Cambodia

She was a decent woman with principles, and believed she was doing the best thing for the country.

That in itself is not worth anything, the same could be said for the long succession of South African Presidents

trailmonkey – Member

that detail disables you from seeing what happens when a valley/village/town loses its only source of income?

It’s awful.
Which is why the unions should have accepted modernization and the inevitable few redundancies rather than put everyone out of work.

It seems that the people who voted her government in three times don’t reside on mtb forums.

The majority of the British electorate voted against the Tories in all 3 elections she won.

Hee we made rudebwoy cry!

It’s awful.
Which is why the unions should have accepted modernization and the inevitable few redundancies rather than put everyone out of work.

the unions put everyone out of work ? how do you even imagine that there is any reality in that ?

nick1962 – Member

The majority of the British electorate voted against the Tories in all 3 elections she won.

No they didn’t. 🙄

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

Probably the best biog of Thatcher was by Andrew Marr.

On a personal level she would have despised spiv bankers cutting and running with bonuses as well as the general populace going credit-crazy and getting up to their eyeballs in debt. As Marr said, ‘that is the problem with freeing people. Relatively easy to know what you are setting them free from, more difficult to know what you are setting them free for’.

She polarised opinion, sure, but if it wasn’t her, someone would have had to sort out the basket case country she inherited in 1979. If the unions hadn’t rejected ‘in place of strife’ as fronted by Barbara Castle, there could have been a more gradual evolution rather than ‘right lads, that’s a few more years of not having to adapt’. By the way, they did reject it by forcing Wilson into a toothless compromise.

Unions striking for 40% pay rises, for Christ’s sake. And the government caving in time after time. Scargill saying he would pay miners to dig mud. Somebody had to sort this rabble out.

Thatcher was bang on economy-wise. To my mind, the two major failings were a massive lack of flexibility when dealing with the IRA and the same with Europe (whilst not having the backing of her party in full).

Also easy to understand her inflexibility on a human level with the IRA, though. Not easy to be objective with people who have murdered close friends of yours (Airey Neave) and tried to murder you.

The poll tax wasn’t brilliant, either.

Wouldn’t wish death on anyone, but about as sad as when I went past Cambridge crematorium on my way home the day they disposed of Myra Hindley

trailmonkey – Member

the unions put everyone out of work? how do you even imagine that there is any reality in that?

Do you not know what demands the unions were making?
Have you no idea how unrealistic and unworkable those demands were?

Ps. you don’t need to precede a question mark with a space. 🙂

Sorry I’m late!

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

None of the vitriol against her really matters.

She won. The unions lost. End of story.

Do you not know what demands the unions were making?
Have you no idea how unrealistic and unworkable those demands were

no, i don’t see the num demands as being unrealistic but getting back to the bizzare point that you were trying to make, the unions in no way closed down any of the mines and you still haven’t demonstrated how this possibly happened.

but then again you won’t be able to because it’s just nonsense.

sbob – Member

nick1962 – Member

The majority of the British electorate voted against the Tories in all 3 elections she won.

No they didn’t.
sbob
The election results say otherwise!!
http://www.ukpolitical.info/1987.htm
http://www.ukpolitical.info/1983.htm
http://www.ukpolitical.info/1979.htm

What dannyh said – spot on. I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification never out of a job, then or now nore were any of my mates. I think we knew we were on our own so we just got on with it.

I would also wonder how many of the predicable Thatcher bashers were even around at the time.

BlingBling please post when your mother/wife etc passes away and I will hold a suitable celebration – f**kwit.

This place/post is not the same without TJ 😉

You know I really expected this to be lefties being rude rather than right wing [ or trolls] trying to get someone to react

pages and pages of them trying to goad a reaction with very little response.

If you/others post something as fact.

Can you please include a link/to the facts?
you really are a self aware vacuum or a master of irony

I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

well she only stood in one election you could vote in so how exactly did that happen then?

I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

well she only stood in one election you could vote in so how exactly did that happen then?

😀

My first thought following the news of Thatchers death was to get back onto the STW forum for the first time in ages. Weird.

Junky stop labelling people with a different view point trolls, you’re better and more eloquent than that, leave the childish insults to rudebwoy.

Quite right – college in 1983 at 18.

trailmonkey – Member

no, i don’t see the num demands as being unrealistic

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

That’s either a joke or, no. I had better not say.
🙂

well she only stood in one election you could vote in so how exactly did that happen then?

It’s obvious…

I am soooo jealous.

You went college with no quals, stayed for 2 years and left with no quals?
Hey! What edit?

sums up thatchers Britain as he then went and voted for her as well 😀

EDIT oh FFS now he went to college till 83 then back to school for another year to leave in 84 ??? I cannot keep up with this

Junky stop labelling people with a different view point trolls, you’re better and more eloquent than that, leave the childish insults to rudebwoy

What you think some folk on here are really not trying to get a reaction with what they are saying- Its not rude to say this it is blindingly obvious tbh

Ps Is that a troll designed to get a reaction 😉

The old IMF argument z-11 ?

Apologies for the delay Ernie – been off having my tea.

So, your defence of Denis is that the previous lot created the economic mess, and he was burdened with trying to sort it out…

How Ironic 😉

BlingBling please post when your mother/wife etc passes away and I will hold a suitable celebration – f**kwit.

🙁 Are you Mark Thatcher ?

I’m sorry Nipper, was blingbling’s mum/wife a British PM that oversaw the destruction of millions of lives amongst the dashed working classes?

nick1962 – Member
The election results say otherwise!!

No they don’t.
And as you deliberately snipped the part of my post that explained exactly what I meant:

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

and quite clearly too, you have been exposed and I can safely file your posts under “W”.
🙂

I think this sums up some of the posts on here rather well 😉

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130407.gif

Edited as comic contains a sweaty word.

W for winner sbob?

W?

Z-11?

Err – i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications – C&G in agri engineering.

No troll, rightly or wrongly there was nobody to rely on so you just got on with it – nothing else to do. Sit on your arse getting bitter or make something of it.

Junkyard – Member

You know I really expected this to be lefties being rude

Then you won’t have been disappointed.
🙂