tattoo yes or no ? lol

I have one tattoo, a rose on my upper right arm that I had done when I was 18 (44 now). At the time (mid-80's) nice middle class privately educated boys like me didn't get tattoos (or at least not to the extent they do now). That was a big part of the attraction.

I have never once regretted it or wanted it removed / covered up. I'd never choose that design (off a flash card) now, and it's faded / blurred over the years, but it's part of me and who I was at the time. I've thought about getting another (custom this time) for about the last 20 years but havn't come up with a design I really want. May well get another one at some point.

Re: tattoos / piercings' greater acceptance these days. I work for one of the leading banks and one of the assistant managers (50 year old who spent the first 20+ years of his working life in a sawmill) in my department has arms covered in old school blue ink tattoos (he always wears a long sleeved shirt but they show through) and large holes in his ears (as referred to above somewhere, can't be arsed to look back to see what they are called). There are also a fair few guys in their 20's who are covered in tattoos – they are all fairly junior grades, but based on the AM I just mentioned I don't think their ink will hold them back career-wise….. to a point. I doubt any of our director-level managers have tats but who knows (cf: the partner in a top law firm with a swastika on his head as referred to in a recent thread).

Quite depressing to see the level of bigotry on this thread, though not entirely surprising.

Four Hundered.

I have nothing of any use to add.

can't be bothered to read all 10 pages of bickering – I'd just say that if you need to ask on a forum as to whether or not to get a tattoo then I'd say it probably wasn't a good idea (for you). IMO it should be a wholly personal decision – I think if you've got to be persuaded / want to be persuaded then maybe I'd think on it a little longer.

I'm sure it's been seen in the 10 pages of gumph going before my 2p's worth but whatever you do, do your research – there are far too many places with just books of templates / flash sheets that won't do anything original. Find a decent artist, have a chat with them about what you want and get something drawn up that suits you – chances are it won't be cheap but it's going to be pretty much permanent so think of it as an investment.

I like the work of Yann Black and Lionel Fahy (Out of Step Tattoo) to pick two examples – they're both based abroad but do fairs and residencies in the UK though you'd have to book ahead.

Oh, and as said ^^ – they're addictive.

lol 10 pages ! hilarious bickerment : yeah i will research and not just plough into it… and will also find a 'good' tattooist… tho i could have a 3 month wait to be 'inked' ! my daughter still shouting at me -your too old mum (lol)..what the heck…..im an adult i make my own decisions…. both she and my son have tattoos….i dont tell her she cant go out drinking geez kids seem to do what they want these days but if we as adults want something then its a big fat no (LOL)….. ahahahah..
be inspired, be afraid, be apprehensive…oh just be inspired…. i must be going through that 'middle age phase' or sommet..lol 😉

clearly you should get 'lol' tattooed on your forehead…….

top tip #1 when you do get your ink elaine… dont drink alcohol before hand (avoid drinking the ngiht before) as it turns even the super-syrup-clotting-blooded people into bleeders…

top tip #2 make sure you eat before hand and take a bit of a sugary snack for afterwards as most people have a little sugar crash.

hope that helps, enjoy it!

top tip #3 use suntan lotion on it to stop it fading, plus it keeps any colours nice and vibrant

Quite depressing to see the level of bigotry on this thread, though not entirely surprising

quite simply I don't think it can be characterised as bigotry – if someone chooses to mutilate themselves then one is entitled to draw conclusions and level criticism. Few other than Shib have gone beyond this to actually disadvantage tattoo wearers, but this is a clear possibility entailed in choosing to be tattooed.

Except its not actually 'mutilation' though is it Simon? Mutilation, at least in my experience, implies something far more serious than getting a tattoo or piercing that in later life you may or may not regret, and if that's the case, so what? This thread has shifted massively from whether or not someone should have a tattoo to yet another STW rambling argument. Is it really that big a deal, and does it really have that big an impact on anybody? Really?

Is it really that big a deal, and does it really have that big an impact on anybody? Really?

not in the least, and I never suggested it was 🙂 And that makes the 'bigotry' claim even more inappropriate.

Simon beat me to what I was about to post after reading the overnight posts. People should be very careful bandying the word 'bigot' around. I have similar views to people wearing, say, football kits for work, or anything that advertised party political allegiances.

That's not bigotry, it's common commercial sense. As for my personal views, I, like everyone else is perfectly entitled to form and hold views, even if others disagree.

I think basejumpers are stoopid; I think fell runners are stoopid. And I have no qualms saying to someone "You're a basejumper? You must be bloody stoopid!". And I have no qualms telling my tattooed friends that I think they're stoopid.

The reality of the situation is that most people with tats relish the fact that people think they're a little odd, a bit edgy, dangerous. Comments like the joker earlier that said the pain was all part of the experience support this, and I'm sure the vast majority of tattoo wearers revel in the perceived status that having ink affords them.

So when, on the other hand, they start bleeting on about how bigotted I am to not want my clients to perceive my staff as odd, edgy or dangerous, I wholeheartedly reserve the right to tell them not to be stoopid.

Here endeth the lesson. Fact.

ok i think we shud close this case now b4 it ends up at crown court ! lol
simon may go rant on sum other poor lost souls thread ! teeeheee
ok i officially :mrgreen:END this thread
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The one thing I don't understand out of this whole ten pages, is what the professional communications industry is. Can someone enlighten me?

simon may go rant on sum other poor lost souls thread !

if you really think I'm ranting then you are stupid 🙂 However I don't need your permission to do things.

The reality of the situation is that most people with tats relish the fact that people think they're a little odd, a bit edgy, dangerous.

which reality would that be?

That's not bigotry, it's common commercial sense.

I couldn't disagree more (in a commercial sense) – I think if there's one this you could take from this thread it's arguably that the old perception of tattoos being the preserve of a certain class no longer holds true, tattoos and piercings, whatever you may think of them, are becoming more prevalent across all walks of life. From a business point of view you're going to be better off being inclusive rather than exclusive…

would echo philconsequence's comments re booze and food – my tattooist asked if i'd had any alcohol in the last 24 hours before he started. the food thing is important too – i took sugary stuff in with me, and needed it after about 15mins when i felt quite sick/light headed from the build up of nerves/adrenaline. also don't take painkillers before hand either.

i also took arnica the day of the tattoo and for the first few days afterwards. also follow your aftercare guidelines – mine healed really quickly and needed no touch ups as i was very careful about washing it and putting the cream on 3 x a day.

Can someone enlighten me?

It's telling lies to sell stuff/services

So advertising then. Thanks, I don't know why he didn't just say that…

"You're a basejumper? You must be bloody stoopid!"

Wow, what a stupid thing to say Shib 🙂 Really. Very stupid indeed!

I couldn't disagree more (in a commercial sense)

Not really. It depends what you are doing in business and who you are working to / for. If someone owns a business, then they decide their own image.

Elaine – I realise that you really, really want this thread to end, and I kind of agree, but have you thought about having 'I heart Shibboleth' tattooed on your back?

The one thing I don't understand out of this whole ten pages, is what the professional communications industry is. Can someone enlighten me?

'Professional Communications Industry' = Photocopying.

Ooh Elfin, you are spiteful 😆

I'd forgotten how entertaining Adam-G's characters could be. I'm not sure we've missed it as such, but it's good to be reminded… 🙂

Isn't it just PR but tarted up to sound like something else?

Everybody wants a tattoo. The only reason not everyone has a tattoo is because they're scared. Shib sounds like the biggest pussy of the lot – fact.

😉

The only reason not everyone has a tattoo is because they're scared

scared of looking daft and needy ? Ya got me 🙂

Thihk it means his a shop manager at a Carphone Warehouse.

lol mike i second that ! where the heck did shibboleth creep out from… a Thomb ? hopefully this hurricane we are experiencing today mite blow him back to where he came from… 😉

EA – out of interest, are you using a phone as I'd hate to think you had anything to do with teaching spelling 😆 LOL LOL LOL 🙄

Dammit Simon, I had £1 on Shib to bite first, but luckily I had an each way bet on you to be one of the top 3 biters 😆

Isn't it just PR but tarted up to sound like something else?

Ah, professional Facebook browser and Farmville player then?

but luckily I had an each way bet on you to be one of the top 3 biters

you owe me 🙂

shad up yo face woody ! ive got a headache… tis abit like judge judy this thread aint it.. being scourned for my spelling now… good job im on skool holiday -take a breather n all that…lol…
shud i put this thread to rest and say "IM NOT GETTING A TATTOO NOW", will it make any difference ? …i 'think' not !!!…. lol lol :wink:lol
ok next shibboleth…you toomb walker…

The reality of the situation is that most people with tats relish the fact that people think they're a little odd, a bit edgy, dangerous

i don't think they are edgy or dangerous. it's 2010 not the 50's. i'm more likely to think somebody is "stoopid" for having one if it's incongruous to that persons personality. like a celtic band on somebody who drank a pint of guinness once but has no oirish connections.

if they are works of art then they look interesting for a couple of seconds (which is how long i look at photographs/paintings in galleries), after that they aren't worth contemplating

most of the rest are banal like the band logos,tribal's,celtic,kids names,football team,stars,pixies,SS cogs etc.

tattoos don't make people more interesting they are just people with ink on their skin. anyone who thinks otherwise is under the same delusion as those who think a tattoo will change them overnight into an "odd" or "edgy" person.
and perhaps a little bit "stoopid"

shad up yo face woody ! ive got a headache..

uncanny…..were we ever married 😉

and perhaps a little bit "stoopid"

realistically, having a tattoo won't make you any stupider 🙂

are you sure 'bout that simon ? stooooopido ?
how long is the longest thread on ere anyway ? are we heading for a guinness record yet ? 😉

are you sure 'bout that simon ? stooooopido ?

about what ? If you mean the "ranting", I haven't been doing that. I don't care if people have tattoos, but all the arguments back and forth are funny 🙂

😉 nah daft sod : you said 'it wont make you any stupider if ya have a tattoo' i was just saying…..(ahhh forget it …. 😉 yes i think the 'bicker' is funny tooo…infact i cant see it ever ending 😆
blinking heck tis raining agin and my daughter has nicked my brolly..bahumbug..

wow no-one posted for 17 minuites ( a record !
maybe i shud forget the Tattoo and concentrate on stuff like this ! 😉