Quick poll. Who you voting for tomorrow?

Yorkshire Party! Freeeeeedommmmmm.

FunkyDunc – Member
I’m just not too sure how it benefits anyone apart from my wife and I??

Again it blows holes in the whole funding scenario

i don’t know, if you’ve got more spare cash you’ll probably end up spending some of it, on things that are subject to VAT….

(so more money for the national pot)

lucorave – Member

@funkdunc

Both my wife and I work very hard as well. We can’t afford to send our kids to private school as NHS nurses don’t get paid enough for the hours we put in. That’s our choice though, we see it at as vocation. Maybe if you pay a little VAT on your children’s school fees there could be a little more for people in our situation. You know, the ones? who would pick up the pieces when you are involved in an accident or a member of your family becomes sick

I guess you didn’t bother to read what his wife does before sharpening your pitch fork.

ahwiles – Member

i don’t know, if you’ve got more spare cash you’ll probably end up spending some of it, on things that are subject to VAT….

(so more money for the national pot)

😆 Yup! Cos there won’t be any tax rises to take that “spare” cash away from the toffs!

dd1 is a sensitive soul 16 and gifted the nerdy girl who cant believe you cant do stuff that she sees as simple. she goes to a state grammar school. she went to the local comp and sat in a corner and cried the first day hiding from the bullying and fighting. she thrives now at the grammar school, not a perfect environment but one she is comfortable in.. ah bless.. but the country need thoughtfull nerdy types because one day she may have that eureka moment in the bath or sit beneath an apple tree.. there again she may choose to spend 8 hours a day on the checkout with her head in the clouds but we /I owe it to her to give her a chance to let her kite fly as high as it can.. or should she cower at that local comp all day..

Everytime I hear a tory has worked hard in order to afford something I auto translate to I got rich off the back of others hard work.

Lucorave – my wife was a radiographer and then retrained of many years to become a doctor, not sure what the point is you are trying to make?

If you are not happy being a nurse, do something about it.

Ahwiles – fair point.

(In general) It’s a shame people here can never see both sides of the coin.

km79 – Member

Everytime I hear a tory has worked hard in order to afford something I auto translate to I got rich off the back of others hard work.

But have you tried to get help for your condition?

Oh and re mediocre education in a state school just like my stepson, 5/5 for his BMat (‘unheard of’ in the local public school), currently doing MRes for the fourth year of his medical degree. FD you are a worm of the first order, and you do need to repeat KS3 to learn about apostrophes.

a worm of the first order

Shittest. Star Wars Villians. Ever.

Lib Dem but only cos Labour have no chance here.

she went to the local comp and sat in a corner and cried the first day hiding from the bullying and fighting. she thrives now at the grammar school

Ok but what’s the solution? Have all the nerdy kids go to selective schools, or make comps better?

What about all the shy nerdy bright kids whose parents can’t afford private school or there’s no grammar school?

It’s a shame people here can never see both sides of the coin.

Of course we can you condescending git. We’re making a political point here – or at least I am. I can see your side, I’m trying to make you see other people’s sides.

SNP, I was a life long labour supporter, but they need to reboot up here and it is a straight fight between the no-bad-lad that is the SNP candidate and the evil Tory witch with her stopping indy 2 flyers…which are factually incorrect,up here. Also; anybody except Ruth the mooth.

Bill love you too

Molgrips – apologies if come across as condescending, that wasn’t my intention.

Just the usual press of it’s ok to take money from people who have worked their arses off for it appears to be ok. The LIb Dems have the fairest solution of putting 1p on the pound for everyone so we all pay.

As I say I’m yet to decide how to vote

molgrips – Member

Ok but what’s the solution? Have all the nerdy kids go to selective schools, or make comps better?

What about all the shy nerdy bright kids whose parents can’t afford private school or there’s no grammar school?

The inequities of life either crush them or make them.
We need both types.

Ruth the mooth

😆 😆

It’ll make no difference how I vote, safe Tory seat with an incumbent expenses fiddler, have not seen sign of a labour candidate nor a poster or leaflet through the door, the only recent challenge came from UKIP we being at the mouth of the Channel Tunnel and illegal visitors strolling up the road out of its mouth were once a daily feature.
So once again it’ll be Green although our local Greens tend to be tree hugging hand wringers, nimbys and Greenham Common vets including my ex wife who fancies the local candidate.

I am groot

graemecsl – Member

I am groot

Oh no, you’re not!

(is it that time of year, already?)

Ok but what’s the solution? Have all the nerdy kids go to selective schools, or make comps better?

Not sure you can make comps better, there are always going to be the ‘don’t give a crap’ kids of parents that should have been neutered. And whatever way you choose to tackle that problem, its probably going to infringe someones human rights.

Selfie..

molgrips – Member

Both my wife and I work hard so we can afford to send our school to private school.

And we work hard and yet cannot afford it.

Tough luck my kids, eh? That fair?

Thought you were an IT consultant – so probably on a reasonable salary?

graemecsl – Member

Selfie..

**Finger in each ear**

LaLaLaLa……

GROOT for PM!!!

I don’t like any of them and have already voted for (IMHO) the least worst option so will not be voting tomorrow.

I have to admit I did not read through the entire thread before commenting, now I have. If I have offended @funkdunc or anyone else then I apologise.

But a communist state.. Scrounging off the state.. Come on.. really?

@funkydunc I commend you for working your way up. I know how hard you have both must have worked to get there but that doesn’t mean other people don’t work hard to get where they are. As for my wife and my positions, we have found what we want to do and are very happy with our career choices. What I can’t agree with is that those who earn more shouldn’t pay more. It is your choice to send your children to private school and if VAT is too be charged on those fees so the less fortunate in our society can have a better life then so be it.
As you say, if your not happy about it, do something about it.

Thought you were an IT consultant – so probably on a reasonable salary?

Bit beside the point there.

Not sure you can make comps better, there are always going to be the ‘don’t give a crap’ kids of parents that should have been neutered. And whatever way you choose to tackle that problem, its probably going to infringe someones human rights.

So you’re in favour of social segregation?

WOW

You’re either Hitler, or you haven’t really thought that through.

I think at the end of the day we all do what we feel is best for our kids and that when it comes to State Schools it really can vary on where you are and the school itself, if people thought all state schools were equal there wouldn’t be a massive fight to get your child into the preferred one.

BUT, those kids that want to go on to university, at the moment either have to have rich folks or become laden with debt as they start their working life, i think if Labour are seeking to abolish tuition fees then the gain there outweighs the VAT element on private schooling.

molgrips – Member

Thought you were an IT consultant – so probably on a reasonable salary?

Bit beside the point there.

How so?

Lucorave the only point I am making is that the high earners do already pay much more, and corbyns solution asking them to pay more doesn’t stack up.

What does stack up is asking everyone to pay more but that doesn’t win elections

And again re private school VAT yes add VAT but all I have said is that there are considerable numbers of people in the system who will no longer be able to afford to send their kids, and yet the state system is already over stretched.

Again the point I am making is around bogus figures that don’t stack up.

Molgrips by the way I missed you calling me a git, very classy..

The point I was making was that in a corbyn world why bother aspiring to do well for yourself, you may as well just live off the state

So you’re in favour of social segregation?

WOW

You’re either Hitler, or you haven’t really thought that through.

I’m in favour of at least having the option available so that if people want to remove their kids from an environment full of other kids who only want to cause trouble and have no interest in learning then they can.

Is it ideal, no.
Is it better than spending years being bullied for actually being interested in learning, imo yes.

I understand why people vote tactically, but not “no point voting xxx because they don’t have a chance”. How many more votes would they need before you thought they were worth a vote, and how does that compare with the votes they missed out on because nobody thought they had a chance?

The point I was making was that in a corbyn world why bother aspiring to do well for yourself, you may as well just live off the state

I agree with many of your points, but as i put above, if labour abolish tuition fees for university, doesn’t this open higher education to so many more kids?

if you look at many of the universities now, so many rely heavily on the monies of foreign students, the Brexit vote has put many off and the papers today reported that Manchester and Cardiff Unis have both laid off a lot of staff recently?

scud – Member

if you look at many of the universities now, so many rely heavily on the monies of foreign students, the Brexit vote has put many off and the papers today reported that Manchester and Cardiff Unis have both laid off a lot of staff recently?

Got to pay the Chancellors £200K salary some how!

We seem to have drifted. ..
Back to the poll.

The point I was making was that in a corbyn world why bother aspiring to do well for yourself, you may as well just live off the state

Can you back up this statement in any way, because it appears to just be a fatuous tabloid cliche (and that’s me being generous)?

zippykona – Member

We seem to have drifted. ..

As was expected 😉

The point I was making was that in a corbyn world why bother aspiring to do well for yourself, you may as well just live off the state

That’s ludicrous.

In a Corbyn world there will still be huge advantages to working, of course there would. I don’t think he’s going to raise dole to £50k a year is he?

Honestly 🙄

I’m in favour of at least having the option available so that if people want to remove their kids from an environment full of other kids who only want to cause trouble and have no interest in learning then they can.

But only if you’ve got the cash. If not – **** you. Sound good?

If the nice decent good learning kids weren’t all siphoned off to better or selective schools, perhaps the comps wouldn’t be so rough? (if they even are, nationally)

Labour unless its raining.

Well, we managed 7 pages. That’s probably a record.

Crobyn want to charge me VAT to send my son to private school.

We will no longer be able to afford to send him

You can afford to send your son to private school, but cannot afford to pay your taxes on that? I don’t think I believe you.

The LIb Dems have the fairest solution of putting 1p on the pound for everyone so we all pay.

That may be the most even solution, I’d respectfully suggest that it’s far from the fairest.

I can’t believe you’re suggesting that the fairest approach is to extract yet more tax from people across the board including those on minimum wage who are already barely managing (or not managing) to put food on the table (assuming they even have a table), so that you can put your son through private school without paying any tax. Either I’ve completely misunderstood you, in which case I sincerely apologise, or there is something seriously broken with your moral compass.

Still, I suppose even that could be worse, the Tories answer would probably be to fund it by scrapping disability benefit.

We seem to have drifted. ..

Was going OK.

Hitler was only first mentioned on Page 8….