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  • Osbourne says no to currency union.
  • hora
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    Fasthaggis there there you bitter old woman. If you understood you’d see a wider impact and picture. Many countries would have done a pros and cons of independence. Russia would have preferred indepence on a few grounds. Stop and think next time before you type a negative post. It’d help you in life too that approach.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    Great speech from Cameron. Best argument for the UK I’ve heard in the campaign.

    Hope he can follow through.

    muddydwarf
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    Never thought I’d agree with you but yes, that’s the most statesman-like speech I’ve ever heard him make.

    A strange thought has just occurred to me. All this proposed change (and it is massive Constitutional change) could only have come about because of a Tory Govt. Had Labour been in power then the vote in Scotland would have been a larger NO percentage & therefore no impetus for change.

    muddydwarf
    Free Member

    A Scottish friend has just said something on FB – this vote was held in Scotland but in reality it was about the UK as a whole.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    More afterthoughts:

    Scotland’s gift to the UK – we’ve saved Cameron and saved you lot from being Borissed. 🙂

    ernie_lynch
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    All this proposed change (and it is massive Constitutional change) could only have come about because of a Tory Govt. Had Labour been in power then the vote in Scotland would have been a larger NO percentage & therefore no impetus for change.

    It’s Thatcher wot dunnit. Gawd bless’er.

    piemonster
    Free Member

    Hope he can follow through.

    Sounds messy, and smelly.

    franksinatra
    Full Member

    I blame the pencils

    muddydwarf
    Free Member

    Its a strange thought I grant you, Labour certainly seem to be the most resistant to more devolution across the UK.

    kjcc25
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    Well done Scotland, well done United Kingdom. Lets hope we can now get on and make the UK a better place. Thanks Scotland.

    kjcc25
    Free Member

    Farage has shown up and spouting his usual rubbish, just spoilt the morning.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    kjcc25 – Member
    Farage has shown up and spouting his usual rubbish, just spoilt the morning.

    I think the wind has probably been taken out of his sails. Cameron has come out of this smelling like roses.

    muddydwarf
    Free Member

    The job now – in the creation of any English administration – is to sideline Farage.

    teamhurtmore
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    epicyclo – Member
    Hey, just realised something!

    We got a Currency Union!

    😀

    (And what’s best for all – a canny nation indeed).

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    though it pains me to say it a good speech from CMD and we should all be proud we live in a democracy where we can do this and we all respect the decision without recriminations. He was noble and brave to allow th evote and he deserves credit

    The constitutional issues resulting from Devo Max and the west lothian issue should not be rushed as rushed legislation is rarely good.

    Gonna be a lot of hangovers [ literal and political] today

    mt
    Free Member

    Farage is the comedy turn for England in the same way as Salmond is for Scotland. Now in a Free (not fee, got a bit Lancashire there) Yorkshire our comedy politician is Gorgeous George the Respect MP for Bradford.

    Cry Freedom Cry Yorkshire. It’s on’t front page of Yorkshire Post, it our turn now Westminster.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    I switched off Radio 4 when farage came on
    They still dont have any MP’s so whatever happens they will have no say so why was he interviewed?

    No one else with so little power has ever got this level of airtime
    Oh and I could not GAS what he thinks

    teamhurtmore
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    Didn’t see CMD but heard AD on the way in. I hope CMD did indeed receiver some composure after the absurd panic that set in after one rogue poll – lessons to be learned there about polls and dealing with this type of opposition. CMD (and others notably Ed) need to think hard.

    wilburt
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    When so many divisions around the world seem to easily escalate to violent conflict I think the UK led by Scotland has given them a template to do something different.

    Nice one!

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-after-scottish-referendum-4285895

    its on their website if you have the bandwith to listen

    molgrips
    Free Member

    In other news, some chap in China is being prosecuted for asking for regional independence, where it’s a specific crime. All those in Scotland who were feeling oppressed – that’s real oppression for you.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    mt – Member
    Farage is the comedy turn for England in the same way as Salmond is for Scotland.

    Salmond is anything but a comedy turn in Scotland. The mistake is to underestimate him.

    jet26
    Free Member

    The fact that this vote happened is excellent.

    Ignoring what each party may have done in the past they seem to be doing ok at present. There’s pm doubt they have been in government at a difficult time.

    Are things perfect? No. Improving? Maybe.

    All of this has at least made me think that if something in society/life isn’t right then perhaps I ought to start by doing something myself rather than moaning about everyone else. If we all did one positive thing each day to help someone else the world would start to change maybe.

    jambalaya
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    O voters of Scotland
    When will we see your like again
    That debated and cried for
    Your wee bit hill and glen
    And stood against them
    Bland David’s army
    And sent him homeward
    Tae think again

    Those days are gone now, in the past they must remain

    thanks for the assist @fasthagis 🙂

    cloudnine
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    If we can’t get rid of Scotland can we just get rid of GMT

    jambalaya
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    Congratulations to everyone who campaigned, debated and voted. I am delighted with the result.

    As @tmh says the No campaign and Cameron should look quite hard at their (over) reaction to the Murdoch poll and indeed to it’s source.

    I think Scotland should be given income tax setting powers, I say so as its a political hot potato, lets see what they can do with it, my view is very little.

    One very interesting comment made by Cameron is that William Hague will lead a panel to look at how English MPs vote on English legislation, the sub text here is that the influence of the Labour party will be reduced.

    EDIT: A big thank you to Gordon Brown, I think he made a real difference

    jambalaya
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    Salmond is anything but a comedy turn in Scotland. The mistake is to underestimate him.


    @epic
    I have been saying the same thing about Farage and UKIP for more than a year. The mainstream parties and many on here just dismissed immigration as a non issue, the voters have told us otherwise. Salmond fought a very good campaign he focused on a dream not facts and gave many a scare.

    Junkyard
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    mt – Member
    Farage is the comedy turn for England in the same way as Salmond is for Scotland.

    You do Know salmold is the elected leader of his country with popularity ratings that other westminster leaders could only dream of

    Without meaning to be a rude it is a view [largely]only the English have of him

    As @tmh says the No campaign and Cameron should look quite hard at their (over) reaction to the Murdoch poll and indeed to it’s source.

    IF you want to get conspiratorial over it you can have it bith ways

    Done to get concessions or done to make sure no turned up
    Either way Westminster did “cave” in if you want tabloid language or offer concessions if you want broadsheet.
    Its a funny world when devo max was never offered but it was what was delivered.

    hora
    Free Member

    Anyway, we are together. As one. We are stronger, more powerful as a union and I couldn’t think of better neighbours to live next to and visit.

    I can’t wait to order my favourite pint of Caledonian80 again very soon 🙂

    ohnohesback
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    The voice over is questionable but the images need to be explained…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    Well put hora.

    “A vital part of that will be a balanced settlement, fair to people in Scotland and importantly to everyone in England, Wales and Northern Ireland as well.

    Well put CMD

    fasthaggis
    Full Member

    Stop and think next time before you type a negative post. It’d help you in life too that approach.

    🙄

    Great,thanks for that,it’s always good to get advice from such a well respected poster }puts handbag down{.

    On a very positive note,the atmosphere at work is brilliant ,everyone I have talked to feels they have been part of something very special.

    ohnohesback
    Free Member

    And time will pass… and maybe some of them will realise that in the end they’ve got ****-all…

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    JIVE HONEY TO THE FORUM

    Paranoid frothing
    Stay away from you tube links

    bol
    Full Member

    On reflection I think yes would have been better for me. Extrapolating the result looks like it will ultimately lead to perpetual Tory rule in the East of England, which doesn’t fill me with a lot of hope. Good result for Scotland though.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    Its a funny world when devo max was never offered but it was what was delivered.

    Indeed JY indeed. I think Cameron thought the No would win easily and he would have to offer nothing. The SNP wanted Devo max as an option on the ballot and IMO it’s the outcome they thought was attainable, and it’s best for Scotland.

    ohnohesback
    Free Member

    Let’s see how ‘max’ the devo is. It will most likely be the responsibility without the funding or control.

    bigjim
    Full Member

    Aberdeenshire 60% no, that’s got to sting a bit.

    Oil and gas workers, innit

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Is that polite for english 😉

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    I hate to say it but that youtube link is quite disturbing!

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