Osbourne says no to currency union.

Remember the CBI fiasco, where they registered as official No campaigners, then had the registration cancelled as it was apparently done by a junior official?

Well, turns out they were fibbing.

http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/9533-electoral-commission-finds-deleted-cbi-emails

Is anyone surprised?

Lord Provost of Perth

Hmm. What does the Deputy Mayor of Bognor Regis have to say about the matter?

Who cares? Much less relevant than a veteran member of the SNP.

http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/9535-rumours-of-massive-oil-find-follow-camerons-secret-shetland-visit

I like the facebook screen shot. Bonus points.

Aye, that’s pure conspiracy theory. But there are more serious articles discussing it.

Links por favor

Here’s one

and another

http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/987/worlds-largest-oil-field-not-found-the-mystery-surrounding-the-prime-ministers-shetland-visit/

http://yes2014.net/2014/08/01/oil-around-shetland-could-be-more-than-it-appears/

And there’s this:

http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/tories-blocked-oil-boom-in-the-clyde-heseltine-admits-1.446273

It’s something to watch. Not a firm story yet, could all be rubbish, but certainly looks interesting.

On the subject of large untapped oil reserves in the Firth of Clyde and the west in general, and that these were covered up due to Faslane and Trident. What I don’t understand is that if there is so much potential why hasn’t the Government moved Trident elsewhere and opened up the area to the oil companies.

Folk down south would welcome the new jobs Trident would bring, people in West of Scotland would be glad to be rid of Trident and revel in the job boom the oil would bring. The cost of one would be paid by the windfall of the other.

It would be such a vote winner I can’t believe that if there was that much potential it wouldn’t have already been done. Unless I am missing something?

The problem is that there really isn’t anywhere else Trident can sensibly go in the UK. Milford Haven would have been good, but they built a big oil terminal there instead.

bencooper – Member
The problem is that there really isn’t anywhere else Trident can sensibly go in the UK….

The only disposable population in the UK is in Scotland it appears….

Indeed.

well, if you can’t believe Ben’s part-trained geologist friend on Facebook’s friend’s mum’s assessment of oil reserves in the North Sea, who can you believe?

(a publicly-traded company that failed to disclose a major new proven discovery like that would be in serious trouble inc potentially personal liability for the directors).

konabunny – Member
…(a publicly-traded company that failed to disclose a major new proven discovery like that would be in serious trouble inc potentially personal liability for the directors).

That’s what I thought, but on donning my tinfoil hat, I realised that a perfect excuse would be if they were told to keep it quiet until after the referendum for “security” reasons by the PM of the UK.

(a publicly-traded company that failed to disclose a major new proven discovery like that would be in serious trouble inc potentially personal liability for the directors).

Companies keep commercial secrets all the time – in fact company employees and directors can get in serious trouble for divulging secrets. One can imagine a scenario where a discovery is kept secret in return for better tax rates or other benefits.

Ben – it’s not really up for tinfoil-shielded Facebook debates. Disclosure obligations for resources companies are a massive legal issue.

I notice also there is no identification of the company purportedly involved or why they would GAF about David Cameron’s interests.

it is silly to discuss this third hand internet bollocks.

The only disposable population in the UK is in Scotland it appears….

And Norfolk, for a good while we too found ourselves on the disposable list.

At the hands of an overbearing foreign power no less.

I’d imagine Aldermarston is something of a target too.

Although to be fair, is somebody nukes Faslane. We are all **** anyway.

Epicyclo, thanks but I’d already seen those. I think most are aware that there’s decent reserves west of Shetland. I run (when he’s about) with a friend involved in the development of the facilities on Shetland in perpetration for it.

What I’m actually after is a none pro yes corroboration of the story as provided by Ben/facebook. A rigger with the balls to stand up for their principles and country would go a long way on this matter. People pay a lot higher price than getting fired for their countries.

Might be worth a read
http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2014/august/companies-operating-in-scotland-must-plan-for-change-regardless-of-referendum-result-says-expert/

So the most able politician in the UK (sic) goes head to head with a man last known for standing like a rabbit in the headlights in the middle of the financial crisis. So how much of a car crash? Will the DO stick to his Starkey/Farrage/galloway-esque persona that has endeared him so much to women and the young voters! Or will he re-invent himself as a statesman capable of giving at least one straight answer?

Oh, for one piece of honesty and sensible debate about the core issues. Has the fiscal commission kept a rabbit up its sleeve to pull out a plan D? Or will the DO persist with his bluff and bluster (funny how those words slip so easily of his tongue. If all else fails he become a troll and play on the internet).

BS bingo cards at the ready…..

What do you think is the core issue thm?

Ah, classic THM impartial commentary.

I guess what I’m most interested in is if a) Salmond (and the questions) focus on the referendum itself and the SNP’s plan for how the settlement etc will work rather than what future SNP policy will be, and b) Will Darling give any sort of vision for Scotland going forward in the union rather than just shooting down everything that Salmond says as impossible or unrealistic.

Im just going to guage my dissapointment on a scale of 1 to 100.

I’m normally quite optimistic in life.

Piemonster I hope you are going to give us some sort of guidance to the scoring on the Piemonster Disappointment Scale.
Some examples:-
Did it rain on your wedding day? If so what score did you give on the PDS?
You have spent a fortune on a new bike including 650b wheels ,it makes the trails seem less alive than your old bike. What is the PDS score?
It is lunchtime and after waiting in a long queue you discover there are no pies left in Greggs. What is the PDS score?

Oh, for one piece of honesty and sensible debate about the core issues

How can you write that introduction and then do an appeal for this?
Again you are guilty of doing the very thing you object to yet again.

BS bingo cards at the ready…

For your posts?

Ah, classic THM impartial commentary.

TROLL

It is lunchtime and after waiting in a long queue you discover there are no pies left in Greggs.

Nobody tell Binners this, but… Id consider a pie purchasing fail at Greggs as a win.

#foodsnob

Hmm driving to Lochinver to find the Pies By Post Lochinver Larder cafe closed, that would be a better comparable.

Well, I’ve had the misfortune to read the ‘articles’ about the oil tests WOS and what a pile of dangerous and misleading pap. Here’s hoping for a good debate tonight but fearing it’ll be the usual rubbish.

Propaganda, nowt new. And being produced by both sides.

Although I’m not actually 100% which side is responsible for the latest oil one.

can we do a non pie based disappointment scale ?

I can’t decide if I should watch the debate or not. I forsee lots of shouting at the tele. Think I will catch a film.

I can’t decide if I should watch the debate or not. I forsee lots of shouting at the tele. Think I will catch a film.

Godzilla Vs Mothra perhaps?

Piemonster is an epicureanist. :-)For me it would be arriving in Acharacle to find The Bake House closed …although The Blue Parrot is very good too. 🙂

Hmm – apple pie!

We could do a mountain bike based disappointment scale,and I did suggest a wedding based version …disappointing pies v disappointing weddings equally controversial on stw

Have been meaning to rewatch Gallipolli. Mel Gibson when he vas very very young, and hadn’t climbed so far up the Crazy Tree.

This TV debate must be about the least watchable programme on TV for quite some time.

I see the three UK parties have signed a pledge to allow Scotland to set their own taxes if they remain within the UK. This is genuis as it pins AS into a corner just ahead of the debate. Truth is for AS to deliver on his promises he needs to put taxes up so now he has the freedom to do so after a no vote too.

his TV debate must be about the least watchable programme on TV for quite some time.

commonwealth closing ceremony??

This is genuis as it pins AS into a corner just ahead of the debate

thank god they have stayed neutral and not done anything for political reasons
Commendable lack of politics in their noble actions unlike wee shitty mc pooey faced DO BS of eck