"Muslim" terrorists attack French magazine in Paris

Yeah, beards!

(Hang on I haven’t shaved for a bit)

No, not beards.

Sandals?

not seeing women as second class citizens…

I always thought beard and pulled-pork went together 😐

Hora if you are scared to use the train or shop in the trafford centre for fear of a Kenyan style attack then that is the sort of thing where paranoid loon applies

Did you stay in when the IRA bombed Manchester? Were you scared to go out?

if you define freedom as the right for any american to own a gun then yes it in fact is!

I define freedom as people being able to say something I disagree with without fear of death.

Your stated intentions make you a threat to the freedom I believe in – what should I do?

no it would more harmonious society, i mean at first there would be a few deaths so to speak but once there were only people alive that agreed with each other then there would be far less conflict.

That’s what the Islamic State is all about.

@bencooper

Really?

IF There were terrorists running around, who cleaved to the dogma of the Old Testament, then they would be equally dangerous.

Ever heard of the Lord’s Resistance Army?

Oh I see you did a quick edit there after your reading fail!

not seeing women as second class citizens…

That’s exclusively islamic is it?

I define freedom as people being able to say something I disagree with without fear of death.

but what when those words lead others to kill and attack others?

That’s exclusively islamic is it?

who cares all that believe in such crap should be treated with equal contempt!

no it would more harmonious society, i mean at first there would be a few deaths so to speak but once there were only people alive that agreed with each other then there would be far less conflict.

You are Fur Q
NSFW

sten1 – Member

So anyone who thinks that reform of gun law in the US might be a good idea is a threat to freedom?

if you define freedom as the right for any american to own a gun then yes it in fact is! [/quote]

Why are you concern with Merica? They have rights to bear arms so why is this even a topic of discussion? 🙄

if those journalists in france all had side arms today might have been very different!

but what when those words lead others to kill and attack others?

That’s what I asked you – your words seem to be wanting “others to kill and attack others”, what should I do?

^/0\

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but what when those words lead others to kill and attack others?

That’s what I asked you – your words seem to be wanting “others to kill and attack others”, what should I do?
lets all just have a really big fight and agree that the winner is in charge.. 🙂

sten1 – Member

if those journalists in france all had side arms today might have been very different!

Ya, it would between AK47 vs some French made pistols etc. AK47 is still much more powerful within 300-600 yards/metre.

Sig556 would top them all within that distance albeit with smaller projectile.

the solution to gun crime is not more guns

lets all just have a really big fight and agree that the winner is in charge.

The George Bush route to freedom. 🙁

the solution to gun crime is not more guns

no you are right i think making sure its not only the bad guys that have them is the key here! you cant stop them from existing they are quite easy to make!

The solution to gun crime is not more guns

I’m pro gun ownership (sporting and pest control only, and with tight controls) and I agree with Junky.

The George Bush route to freedom.

Right im off for a burger 🙂

jambalaya – Member

Moderate Muslims need to fully understand their religion has been hijacked.

Nope, you need to understand that it has not. It’s certainly been abused and taken in vain but to pretend that islam as a whole has been hijacked is absurd. In fact I reckon it’s the sort of absurd that you can only really believe, or pretend to believe, because you just don’t like muslims.

no you are right i think making sure its not only the bad guys that have them is the key here! you cant stop them from existing they are quite easy to make!

So quoth the NRA – didn’t realise they had an STW contingent.

I imagine this will lead to tighter border controls for ferries etc.

We weren’t searched at all on the way back into the UK last week in our car.

once there were only people alive that agreed with each other then there would be far less conflict

You may be right. After all who would he or she fight?

Junkyard – lazarus
the solution to gun crime is not more guns

Ya, I hear you. You are absolutely right.

However, when someone intends to kill you with a gun what do you do? Ring the police switchboard? “Please press 1 if someone has a gun trying to kill you” or “Please press 2 if you are half dead” or ” Please press 3 if you are already dead” …

Yes, bigger gun(s)! 😈

My gun is bigger than yours!

bencooper – Member
Its not like they’ve got a recent track record of this kind of thing, is it?
Who’s “they”? Muslims? French people? Men?

The fanatics who do this kind of thing are about as Muslim as I am – they use some misunderstood parts of that religion to fuel their idiotic rage. Tying this kind of incident to one religion just plays into their hands.

Well said Ben. Terrorists are terrorists. It needs no qualification eg, religion or race. This is not an Islamic problem. Take the caliphate that some want to recreate. The last one (not that old) was tolerant of other religions (Baghdad was 40% Jewish after WW1), sexuality (gay relationships welcomed in poetry) and supported high levels of academic achievement. Far more advanced and progressive that our modern western society.

So let’s define these acts for what they really are rather than use incorrect labels.

Northwind – Member
jambalaya – Member
Moderate Muslims need to fully understand their religion has been hijacked.

Nope, you need to understand that it has not. It’s certainly been abused and taken in vain but to pretend that islam as a whole has been hijacked is absurd.

Well said too. Nice to agree with my Scottish friends!!

My gun is bigger than yours!

And someone else’s gun is way bigger than yours.

slowoldman – Member

My gun is bigger than yours!

And someone else’s gun is way bigger than yours. [/quote]

Now, don’t put that in their mind … ts! ts! ts!

Ok, I get bigger gun (I can also have cosmetic surgery to enhance the size you know … 😆 ) and if they get even bigger gun, I get 50mm cannon … etc 😆

I agree with Junky.

In that case I retract what i said 😀

There are some proper remtards on here. I mean how difficult is it to understand that violence begets violence.
Be the change you want to see.
(which means obviously that I have no objection to you calling me a remtard if I am demonstratably being one).

Nope, you need to understand that it has not. It’s certainly been abused and taken in vain

BTW as an aside, what’s the moderate muslim consensus about the cartoons anjem and his buddies get all pissy about? A frown and ignore it? Or “something (legal and none violent) should be done about this heresy”? again genuine question – and I know opinions will differ, like I said consensus, if there is one? (when something like the danish cartoon thing happens it only appears to be the more excitable end of the spectrum who get on the news)

However, when someone intends to kill you with a gun what do you do? Ring the police switchboard? “Please press 1 if someone has a gun trying to kill you” or “Please press 2 if you are half dead” or ” Please press 3 if you are already dead” …

Yes, bigger gun(s)!

My gun is bigger than yours!

That is exactly what we would do and we would wait for somebody with a gun to protect us from the person who means us harm with a gun. We cant uninvent and having less of them is a laudable aim however if that reducing number is in the hands of tha bad guys then thats not what we need.

jambalaya – Member
@Mr Whoppitt. The magazine immediately re-tweeted the ISIL cartoon

Excellent. Never give in.

Well done, our leetle Fronch frernds…

😀 @ Junky!

surfer – Member
That is exactly what we would do and we would wait for somebody with a gun to protect us from the person who means us harm with a gun. We cant uninvent and having less of them is a laudable aim however if that reducing number is in the hands of tha bad guys then thats not what we need.

Ya, please press 4 for any other matters …

Judging from the shooters you can’t even use ordinary projectile (bullet) anymore. You need armour piercing bullet as the shooters are covered with bullet proof vest. Either that or you need head shot to stop the trigger happy shooters.

Judging from the shooters you can’t even use ordinary projectile (bullet) anymore. You need armour piercing bullet as the shooters are cover with bullet proof vest.

i believe you want the hollow ones:)

Here are some stats to put some of the discussion into context:

40% of British Muslims want Sharia law
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

How do you square that circle?

This is against a global backdrop where:
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

sten1 – Member

Judging from the shooters you can’t even use ordinary projectile (bullet) anymore. You need armour piercing bullet as the shooters are cover with bullet proof vest.

i believe you want the hollow ones:)

Will not work. Unless you are a sharp shooter otherwise the chances of you hitting the head is slim in a panic mode. Armour piercing bullets give you more chance of a bigger target, besides you have a chance of slowing the shooters down and let the police marksman to practice head shot later on.

You might knock the shooters off momentarily but their fingers (nerves) are still connected to the brain so will keep pulling the trigger and with AK47 … you have no chance. A head shot will severe the communication between all the nerves.