Let's Talk About Bullying.

It’s not the first time he’s had a permanent ban, is it?

Which kind of highlights the futility of it all, no? 😀

Surely if ernie (green party) and elf (blue party) have the most complaints about them by the majority (orange party) then that is democracy in action and it is just unfortunate the moderators have to take the fallout.

The forum costs me nothing to use and I rarely buy the mag, but if people complain about me that costs the mods time and eventually this time equals money as their products quality will go down.

In regards to elf, he made a really good thread on woodwork you could tell he enjoyed it and so did myself and others. I have had a brief look at what appears to be his twitter, he comes across as very angry and nasty. More posts on his interests and fewer trying to wind up other people and he’ll get on fine.

I’ve been followed from topic to topic before

Really? If that is true, it is amazingly sad.

Which kind of highlights the futility of it all, no?

Not really this time, if (or rather when) he comes back and eventually blows his cover I’m sure the ban hammer will come down again, I can’t imagine Mark will let him back after all the twitter abuse.

TJ – I think you’d actually get a better response on here if you did just report stuff to the mods when you have a problem – repeatedly making points about other members of the forum on the same (or subsequent) threads does tend to make it look like you’re part of the problem rather than, as you are seeign it, the victim.

If your issues were dealt with ‘offline’ then a lot of, errm, chaff around you might be avoided.

The Bighitters (TM) add little value to STW as a commercial entity

It gets boring and people leave, simple as that.

Really? If that is true, it is amazingly sad.

Same thing, more or less, happened to Surf Matt. Yeah he was a bit of dick sometimes*, but he was bullied off IMHO.

*Who isn’t?

Really? If that is true, it is amazingly sad.

It happens, I’ve been followed by one or two, and as recently as last week, and it is quite sad, hardly damaging though.

I still have the deleted Bullheart post if anyone wants it.

I’ll shut up about this now – I have made my point and I do try to listen to others.

Same thing, more or less, happened to Surf Matt. Yeah he was a bit of dick sometimes* AWESOME!!!, but he was bullied off IMHO.

FTFY

Yep, surfmatt was bullied off. It can be argued whether he bought it on himself though. I think possibly flow was more recently, but again he bought a lot of it on himself.

Yeah he was a bit of dick sometimes*

Is that more understatement or serious? 😀

I still have the deleted Bullheart post if anyone wants it.

“Bullheart” didn’t come across very well in that post at all IMO. Ask him before you repost.

“Bullied off”. What a weird concept. I’m sure he just thought “What a bunch of dicks” and never bothered logging on again.

KINGTUT – Member
Which kind of highlights the futility of it all, no?
Not really this time, if (or rather when) he comes back and eventually blows his cover I’m sure the ban hammer will come down again, I can’t imagine Mark will let him back after all the twitter abuse.

Oh I don’t know – Cressers got back in…

I still have the deleted Bullheart post if anyone wants it.

Nealglover@gmail.com

Thanks !

Surf-mat wasn’t bullied off, that’s ridiculous. He repeatedly made a dick of himself, got himself a rep for making a dick of himself, continued to make a dick of himself and then flounced off. I’ve no doubt at all that he’s out there somewhere continuing to make a dick of himself.

That’s not bullying.

Cressers got back in…

did he who as, if it’s not a current user?

I do sometimes wonder how he’s doing – his eyesite seemed to be deteriorating but I hoped he’d be able to carry on riding somehow.

Surf-mat wasn’t bullied off, that’s ridiculous. He repeatedly made a dick of himself, got himself a rep for making a dick of himself, continued to make a dick of himself and then flounced off. I’ve no doubt at all that he’s out there somewhere continuing to make a dick of himself.

He was too! Stop oppressing me!

* furiously hit’s all the report buttons*

I don’t subscribe to that twitter thing it all seems fairly pointless, but this lead me to seek out the players and it seems significant that @Elfinsafety follows no one yet expects all to listen to his rants which kind of sums it up really.

And for someone of his undoubted intelligence and internet capability with the tools around there’s no stopping him returning, hearing of that LOIC thing made me chuckle, to retaliate by bringing the forum down…

But all this angst over the removal of an anonymous ID, he should just return as a woman for a while, they’d never guess…

🙂

<sets up twitter account>

The management were more like the bloody Men In Black last night; some very swift erasing of ‘the truth’. That’s actually a very disturbing trait.

this is more interesting. what happened?

EDIT –
*realises any post saying what happened will be removed*
email in profile 😉

I think its more about not wanting to run off bleating to the mods but to try and deal with it on the forum or to ignore it.

Certainly in future I will be much quicker to report posts and posters that I consider abusive and I urge others to do so as well.

Two things:

1) People may not have the same perplexing low tolerance of ‘abuse’ you have

2) I call it perplexing, because your standard method of discussion is robust to say the least (although admittedly you very rarely verge beyond tacky stereotypes such as ‘little englander’ in terms of text that is actually offensive). I think it’s this ‘robustness’, intentional or not, that attracts you as much flack as you seem to get.

Curiously, the only time I’ve received a warning or a ban was for calling you an idiot TJ, for not seeing your own hypocrisy on a tedious thread about nuclear power. I don’t care, but I doubt anyone other than you would have reported that…

Shut up binners life is about THIS HERE FORUM! and you know it! 🙂

The discussion about surfmatt he shows the differnce of opinion on this.

I thought he was bullied.

Others think he brought it on himself ( IMO the classic blame the victim)

Others think he was a dick and flounced

This cannot be reconciled really but does illustrate the difficulties in reaching a consensus on what online behaviour is acceptable

slightly off topic but ive noticed whatever you post buying, selling or just asking for info there are hundreds of nobs on here that take the pish and make stupid, sarcastic comments for there own entertainment so to say people are being bullied is daft. if they are dicks as said above get rid. read through alot of posts for examples of idiots. i go on a few forums and tbh this one and one other are by far the worst for cretins and stupid comments to simple questions or points of view from individuals. thats my tuppence worth. also if you dont like whats said dont read it. not bullying then is it as they are just cyber dicks who prob in the real world live with there mums at the ages of 40+ and are still virgins. this gives them the right to give people a hard time via a keyboard not.

I never contributed to the Bullheart thread, the constructive comment I could have made would have no doubt resulted in a mass of complaints from the hand wringers and a ban. Ernie has a point. I’ve given up stating the obvious when pepole rant about their private lives blaming everyone but themselves.

wwaswas –

“ohnohesback”

surf mat was a dick and he did bring it on himslef by hios personallity and how he acted on here.

Thanks for letting me know I am blaiming the victim by disagreeing with you TJ..you really cant help yourself here can you
I find it offensive that you still need to belittle those who disagree with you

EDIT: Sorry TJ I am not intentionally trying to have ago at you but it may appear like this as I keep doing this Sorry

zokes

I think it’s this ‘robustness’, intentional or not, that attracts you as much flack as you seem to get.

I fully accept that which is why in the past I have not complained at abuse directed at me much. However as it appears to be the volume of complaints that gets people banned I will more now. the same people that rip into me rip into others as well

I doubt anyone other than you would have reported that…

don’t remember doing so but its possible I guess.

Apart from his irritating posts I can’t remember why cressers got banned, what was it?

Mr Woppit, ah thank you, although I would have guessed if I’d seen this on the profile;

About Me professional pessimist

😉

kingtut – ‘disagreeing with Mark’ in the end I think. Wasn’t he putting comments on home page articles or something and wouldn’t stop?

How can you be bullied on the internet?

surf mat was a dick and he did bring it on himslef by hios personallity and how he acted on here.

Surf-mat wasn’t bullied off, that’s ridiculous. He repeatedly made a dick of himself, got himself a rep for making a dick of himself, continued to make a dick of himself and then flounced off. I’ve no doubt at all that he’s out there somewhere continuing to make a dick of himself.

Well, I only really engaged with him in the running threads, so I guess I didn’t see him in full dickish mode…I assume these would have been the car threads?

Anyway. I retract my earlier point.

Junkyard – Member

surf mat was a dick and he did bring it on himslef by hios personallity and how he acted on here.

Thanks for letting me know I am blaiming the victim by disagreeing with you TJ..you really cant help yourself here can you
I find it offensive that you still need to belittle those who disagree with you

I did put IMO. I had no intent to belittle those who disagree with me. I was intending to outline the irreconcilable difference in opinion / attitude as shown by the attitudes to Surffmatt displayed. I made no value judgement on them nor did I see you post on this.

Accept my apologies please.

Apart from his irritating posts I can’t remember why cressers got banned, what was it?

Being rude to Chipps, as I recall. We were all treated to a short video of the sliced-potato one’s immensly attractive rear-end…

“How can you be bullied on the internet?”

The internet can be used in many ways as a form of communication. Therefore it can be used quite easily for bullying.

Now give me your lunch money by palpal gift or I’ll tweet something about your mum.

I’m always slightly bemused when stuff kicks off on here. The handbags at dawn and shenanigans makes me feel young again – as in “I’m a 13 year old girl in high school”. And they say women are bitchy!

What ever people may & may not feel/think about Elf there is no need for this sort of thing

Taken from his Twitter feed – Ah well, Kept them busy tonight! Does anyone know why Mark Alker no longer teaches children? I think we should be told….

Stepping over the line that one.