Jeremy Corbyn

Aaaah… that old chestnut. Anyone who doesn’t think Corbyn is wonderful is clearly endorsing the killing of Palestinian children?

Aaah no, not at all. But endorsing the killing of Palestinian children seems to be acceptable while objecting to it is not.

You’re right – just a bunch of letterboxes. Who cares if they get killed?

Not even slightly what I was saying.

Any suggestion I was Labour leader is ‘dramatically overstated’, insists Corbyn

All I’m going to say is Labour needs to move on from this now. Labour must unit and hold these spivs to account.

We cannot afford a Tory government for 8 more years!

Question: how do you think democracy works?

Those voters aren’t going anywhere; they can’t be shouted into oblivion – they will still exist at the next election, and the one after that, and the party that gets to form a government is the one that appeals to them.

The true left refuses to acknowledge democracy, voters or elections as to do so would be to compromise their integrity! They will offer a extreme leftwing manifesto and be overjoyed to be rejected at the next election; as to win an election would also compromise their integrity. However, they will win ‘the argument’ although when asked, will fail to explain what the argument was; as to explain anything would compromise their integrity.

We still failed to attract enough of the progressive vote even with a lib dem post-coalition total collapse.

Corbyn came across as dithering and far left, so that lost the liberal support, there may have been 10% of the popular vote up for grabs if he got off his high horse and worked with the lib dems. Jo Swinson Didn’t help metters either.

Corbyn was also too blind to see that a lot of his voters were more racist than they were socialist, so that was more votes handed over to the tories.

As it happened, all Labour and the Lib dems got from thier brinkmanship battle with each other, was to hand more votes to the tories.

No prizes for guessing what everyone’s least favourite champagne socialist gobshite thinks

This was a day for our party to move forward as one to defeat the evil of antisemitism. However, the decision to suspend Jeremy Corbyn has threatened that opportunity.

Read my response in full ?https://t.co/OX5MUCvUkQ

— Len McCluskey (@LenMcCluskey) October 29, 2020

In other news Jeremy has put the old campaign team of Seamus and Karrie back together to organise his fightback

I bet Starmer was bricking it on hearing that news

If only JC had left after the first election defeat.

Which definitely would have happened without the chicken coup.

I’ve read the report. It’s not that enlightening really.

A joyful day for all decent working people who despise the lefties who tried to destroy our great party. Anyone with a half a brain cell could see Corbyn was an actual Nazi, fueled by a rabid hatred of Jews.

As someone whos mothers surname is Burlikowska (its polish) I really think you should use your words a lot more carefully Corbyn isnt a Nazi. It really annoys me how people jsut throw the Nazi word around like its nothing its the reason I have never met the majority of my family.

With any luck the flood of people leaving the party and the withdrawal of union funding will send it into bankruptcy. I reckon this could cost it tens of thousands of members if not more, and the loss of funding from the big unions. That’s millions per year which they already can’t afford to lose. No doubt Mandelson will find one of his oligarch mates to step in and they’ll be even more in hock to the rich than the tories. Time this rotten organisation was put out of its misery.

You mean the director of Labour Friends of Israel? the organisation who excused the killing of Palestinian civilians … ??

Racist.

I see this as a positive step forward, KS has put a statement out.
Whataboutismists can now point a finger at The Tory denial of anti Muslimisumz

Hold an enguiry about that, just before the next election

Good riddance, can we now forget he was ever in charge and move on.

Unlikely!

You have to deal with the world as it is, not with how you’d like it to be.

Until you grasp that simple fact, you’re never going to get into power

This sums it up to me. I’m not a natural socialist, although I’ll vote for them to try and reduce the local Tory MPs majority. I’m not interested in any idealogical purity, I wanted an electable alternative to Boris and Brexit, and/or that would have created a fairer and more equitable society and the only party that could have done that completely failed. Twice.

And now I’m watching you all squabble on here and I understand why. Those Red Wall voters may not have swung to the Tories if Labour had stopped it’s internal faction fighting and come up with a coherent policy to explain who’s fault it was that those communities were suffering, and how a Labour government would help them support them, and that needed to start with coherent, practical messages that would have got through despite the right wing media.

Like it or not, Boris united the Tories by ousting or silencing the Eurosceptics and convincing the electorate that he could “get the job done”. I’m not sure the voters cared what that job was, provided it wasn’t the chaotic presentation of the Labour party policies that was put forward so poorly.

If Labour doesn’t unite behind Starmer – even if it means the Corbynites leave – and stop providing squabbles for the media to focus on, it hasn’t got a hope of winning the next election. Sort yourselves out, hold your noses where necessary and pull together to create a party that will appeal to enough people to get the Tory bastards out.

hold your noses where necessary and pull together

How do you pull together with people who call you a racist? Because that’s what they’re doing.

If you don’t want to be called a racist, don’t be a racist

It’s not difficult

How’s that alternative reality working out for you Daz? The one where there hasn’t actually been an independent report published today with all the evidence against Corbyn of antisemitism?

Just because you don’t agree with it you can’t just pretend it never happened.

Your attitude seems pretty typical of the rest of the cult members. I don’t want to believe that about Jeremy, therefore it’s all lies and none of this actually happened

It’s ridiculous!

Apparently,

Mr Starmer added that those who reject the report’s findings, or who think the issue is exaggerated or a factional attack were “part of the problem too”. They too “should be nowhere near the Labour party either”.

Well that’s a fair number of people on here it would seem, myself included.

Just received an email from the local party sec stating ‘…with a heavy heart and after much soul searching, I’m standing down and resigning from the party…’
It’s clear where his loyalties lie.

Wow. Thought I’d drop in on this thread to observe the doublethink required of the cult of St Jeremy. And it still managed to surprise me.

‘Bout time Jezza ****ed off for good and took his unelectable shambles with him.

Have you read the report binbins?

With any luck the flood of people leaving the party and the withdrawal of union funding will send it into bankruptcy.

Bet it doesn’t, bet they don’t.

Corbyn walked in to a trap that had a big sign above it that said ‘it’s a trap!’, just as he did repeatedly in the past. I’m a Labour voter that doesn’t really pin myself to any leader but Corbyns lack of political nous is what finished him for me.

Lots of evidence of him handling AS badly but not of being AS.

Corbyn walked in to a trap that had a big sign above it that said ‘it’s a trap!’, just as he did repeatedly in the past. I’m a Labour voter that doesn’t really pin myself to any leader but Corbyns lack of political nous is what finished him for me.

Absolutely no doubt that a lot of this was a put-up job by the Tories in league with some of their prominent/rich Jewish supporters.

But Grandpa walked straight into it like the utterly clueless, artless political infant that he is. That lack of guile was an open goal for the Tories, and they didn’t miss.

With any luck the flood of people leaving the party and the withdrawal of union funding will send it into bankruptcy.

If you look at all the Corbynite blather on social media, apparently they’re going to split and form another party dedicated to pure socialism, with the bearded messiah at the helm

However, it’s worth bearing in mind that they’ve been saying that since 1971, including them definitely, definitely, definitely going to do it during the Blair years

Absolutely no doubt that a lot of this was a put-up job by the Tories in league with some of their prominent/rich Jewish supporters.

WOW! You are actualy an anti-semite, try and find any member of the “cult of St Jeremy” saying something simiar on these threads- you wont.

Honestly some of the comments from the corbynistas are amazing.
he presided over a party that did a crap load of things wrong and interfered with allegations of anti semitism.
The report is pretty clear and how could they possibly think that what he did was OK. I am not accusing him of being racist but his naivety is astonishing.
as for the back biting lot, what do you actually want a party that actually means something or a bunch of squabbling children who accept racism.
It’s astonishing

he presided over a party that did a crap load of things wrong and interfered with allegations of anti semitism.
The report is pretty clear and how could they possibly think that what he did was OK. I am not accusing him of being racist but his naivety is astonishing.

I also don’t think he personally was racist/anti-semitic but he certainly didn’t deal with that issue, or many others, at all well. And that’s the impression that was sent out and made all the Red Wall Brexiteers opt for a Tory brexit rather than a Labour one

WOW! You are actualy an anti-semite, try and find any member of the “cult of St Jeremy” saying something simiar on these threads- you wont.

Nope. I am saying that some inevitable dovetailing of interests occurred as the Tories were desperate to pin an ‘ism’ on Labour and so many of the jewish voices stirring the pot were Tory supporting ones. The politics came first in much of this.

It is not anti-semitic to point out a link that was reported at the time and was, to a certain extent, giving Grandpa the rope to hang himself with. And he happily obliged.

Still, you keep on putting up the straw men and knocking them down if that is what gets you off.

Dig that hole Dan! Binbins are you going to call out this blatant AS?

Dig that hole Dan! Binbins are you going to call out this blatant AS?

Ha ha ha. How long have you been waiting for a crack at this?

Silly, silly little person.

Absolutely no doubt that a lot of this was a put-up job by the Tories in league with some of their prominent/rich Jewish supporters./rich Jewish supporters.

Either you don’t know that you’re an anti semite, or you don’t care that you are. I suspect the latter

Also, reported

? The one where there hasn’t actually been an independent report published today with all the evidence against Corbyn of antisemitism?

I dont suppose you will provide that evidence will you? Please quote the exact page(s) where it states he was antisemitic.

Either you don’t know that you’re an anti semite, or you don’t care that you are. I suspect the latter

I don’t have to worry about it, because I’m not.

If you can’t see the dovetailing of interests here, you are indulging in doublethink.

And that is not a dovetailing of interests because of religion. It is a dovetailing of interests that are 90% political and just happen to have a religious element.

Also, reported

On what grounds?

With any luck the flood of people leaving the party and the withdrawal of union funding will send it into bankruptcy.

And there in one sentence is the mindset of the loony left, no wonder the Corbyn cult failed.

Ha ha ha. How long have you been waiting for a crack at this?

Silly, silly little person

How long have I been waiting for you to say something AS? WTF are you on about?

I’m silly, you’re stupid. What you said is classic anti-Semitism & you can’t see it!

I don’t have to worry about it, because I’m not.

Right. Perhaps, then, you should reflect on your earlier remarks.

Ha ha ha. How long have you been waiting for a crack at this?

Silly, silly little person

How long have I been waiting for you to say something AS? WTF are you on about?

I’m silly, you’re stupid. What you said is classic anti-Semitism & you can’t see it!

dannyh you appear to have captured in that one post, what all of this has been about.
Edit: sorry, that’s not clear. I mean the first of these posts of yours.

And there in one sentence is the mindset of the loony left

Hardly, I’m not even a socialist. I’d definitely describe myself as left wing, but not in the narrow and outdated definition of old school socialists.

The point is that the Labour Party was founded to represent the interests of working people and redress the balance of power between capital and workers. Today it does neither, it simply exists to win a political game, a bit like a football match, and anyone who challenges that is smeared and bullied as racists, cranks, extremists or nutters.

The Labour Party doesn’t challenge power, it just wants it for itself. No different to the tories, and the cause of everything that’s f***** up in this world. Nothing will ever change until we recognise this simple fact.

I don’t see why it’s controversial to suggest that as well as genuine failings and problems with anti-semitism under Corbyn there was cynical weaponising of the issue by right-wing Labour and the Tories. I know this is the internet but both things can be true.

Are we at the point now where it’s anti semitic to wonder why one third of the current shadow cabinet is a member of Labour Friends of Israel – ‘a Westminster based lobby group working within the British Labour Party to promote the State of Israel’. The same Israel that’s accused of mass human rights violations.