Isn’t it time to rename this thread ‘Rupert Murdoch’

most of the ‘debate’ on here seems to be recycled snippets of all the guff he puts out for the weak minded…

As leader of HM Opposition, only he can try to form the alternative government in September/October.

This. It’s a simple question for the libdems and tory moderates. Do they want to stop a no deal or not? If yes this is probably* the only feasible option. There is no time to mess about playing party politics. Labour have done the right thing in saying any new government will be temporary and are promising to call an election once no deal is avoided. They would be under no obligation otherwise so they have offered a compromise. This isn’t an attempt to seize power, it’s an attempt to stop no deal followed by the the proper democratic solution which is a general election.

*there are others but they are even less likely.

Isn’t it time to rename this thread ‘Rupert Murdoch’

most of the ‘debate’ on here seems to be recycled snippets of all the guff he puts out for the weak minded…

Is that you, Seamas?

Thanks for the reminder, comrade, that all those who don’t revere St Jeremy as their saviour are clearly unthinking drones, capitalist stooges and slaves to the military-industrial complex, totally incapable of independent thought, who need their opinions spoon-fed to them by the right wing press

We clearly need saving from ourselves

Come the glorious revolution….

Come the glorious revolution….

Any views on Corbyn’s actions to prevent a no deal? Not impressed with a letter I presume? Perhaps a protest would be a better idea?

Maybe an online petition? 😉

As leader of HM Opposition, only he can try to form the alternative government in September/October.

Does he have to be leader of the Opposition for that purpose? I doubt it. I’m sure a neutral could be leader of the Opposition for the purposes under discussion. Ken Clark, Chukka or Vince Cable. Corbyn could remain leader of the Labour party.

When all the dust had settled a GE would be called and Corbyn would campaign as normal.

It’s pretty clear that Corbyn is the sole impediment to an organized multi party takeover by the opposition. [1] If he (temporarily) stepped out of the way all objections would be overcome. [1]

Corbyn’s a brexiteer and he’s doing the best he can to ensure a ‘proper’ Brexit happens. Personally I think that’s commendable – he’s doing what he (perhaps misguidedly) thinks is right.

[1] Assuming they have the numbers which isn’t clear.

Corbyn could have saved the ink and just not written the letter – no one ( outside the bunker ) is going to agree to a Marxist government run by him, that has suggested that retrospective laws should be created to imprison political opponents.

“I would expect there are people in his own party and indeed the necessary Conservative backbenchers who would be unwilling to support him. It is a nonsense,”

Jo Swinson

https://www.politico.eu/article/help-jeremy-corbyn-no-deal-brexit/

I am not exactly a Corbyn or Labour fan but the constant demonisation that he is the subject of betrays the lack of respect for the principles of plurality of opinions.

Tolerance is a two-way street and we should absolutely tolerate the tolerant who’s views and experiences differ from our own.

But there is a limit to being tolerant, and when it comes to people who, if not racists themselves, have made one of the major parties in this country a safe-space for racial hatred, have called for the jailing of people who disagree with their extremist views, then the limits of tolerance have been passed.

& to put up with Cranberry you need trollerance.

You mean Johnson?

‘cos Corbyn is no racist no matter how much people try to label him as such.

His enemies have tried a numerous attacks lines on him. Terrorist friend, racist, anti semite, communist – none of which is true.

You do realise ALL socialism comes from Marxs teachings? Even Blair!

…when it comes to people who, if not racists themselves, have made one of the major parties in this country a safe-space for racial hatred…

That’ll be Johnson and the Conservative Party, but this thread is about Corbyn.

If you can point out ‘racial hatred’ in relation to Corbyn it might help your arguement.

Whilst I can understand people not agreeing with Corbyn’s policies and thinking he is a poor leader; I don’t understand why so many people claim he is untrustworthy. Why is that?

His enemies have tried a numerous attacks lines on him. Terrorist friend, racist, anti semite, communist – none of which is true.

It takes some mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion. You’ll be voting to remain in the eu and leave the uk next.

It did indeed take a load of mental gymnastics for people to claim those things as there is not a shred of credible evidence behind them.

I don’t understand why so many people claim he is untrustworthy. Why is that?

Because those who parrot such rubbish are either;

A) Tories.

B) Politically naive/illiterate simpletons who believe whatever the MSM tells them.

C) ‘Moderates’ who will say/believe anything in their quest to drag the Labour Party back to the right.

D) Many other reasons that you have no interest in listening to or taking seriously

D) Many other reasons that you have no interest in listening to or taking seriously

It’s difficult to take such accusations seriously when even the most cursory of research into them shows they are complete rubbish

As a comparison, should we take the opinions of flat earthers seriously despite the available evidence?

How about his responses to the attempted murder of Sergei Skripal? They sure made me worry about how he would act as PM as regards Russia.

flat earthers

Right.

Experts suggest Jeremy Corbyn would be an excellent caretaker, as he dresses like one and has a track record of sweeping things under the carpet.

— Have I Got News For You (@haveigotnews) August 15, 2019

As a comparison, should we take the opinions of flat earthers seriously despite the available evidence?

Or people who think homeopathy is a good idea?

Kelvin – he simply asked for evidence before accusation – and that was before we even knew what the poison was

Nevermind Jeremy, did you see his brother Piers on Russia Today talking about climate change and temperature?

Or people who think homeopathy is a good idea?

As a Critical Care nurse I look upon homeopathy with the contempt it deserves.

If an individual has a belief in homeopathy though it doesn’t mean that everything they believe in is equally contemptible.

, did you see his brother Piers on Russia Today

Was his mother at Cable Street as well?

But its all corbyns fault – that weird man Corbyn who according to some on here simultaneously is completely incompetent and also a Machiavellian genius who has total control over the party

No, that’s not fair. If he actually controlled his party we wouldn’t be where we are now.

And your point is?

Just because he believes in homeopathy doesn’t mean all his opinions are equally worthless (see my last post).

From the comments you post on political threads it appears you are a Tory, and a pretty inwards looking one at that, but I wouldn’t discount your opinions on everything based on your political leanings.

Don’t underestimate the power of the sugar pill

“They both come from organic matter”

Oh well that makes homeopathy completely legit then.

That is Trumpian stupidity.

If an individual has a belief in homeopathy though it doesn’t mean that everything they believe in is equally contemptible.

If an individual holds beliefs such as the above quote from Comrade Corbynichov, it calls into question their entire belief system and ability to make rational decisions.

Interstingly ( and I am not defnding it at all) but for some chronic conditions it was found that refferring people to homeopathy saved the NHS money – as they stopped taking up so much NHS time.

Pure placebo effect of course.

Rayban – good. That means we can happily ignore everything you say as yo have been proved wrong numerous times. Like over Lyme!

Hahah.

You didn’t manage to pin that on me.

I’ve only ever been against throwing antibiotics around like sweets based on flimsy or little data. It’s scientists who spend decades toiling away underneath fluorescent lighting and white walls to make these drugs work only to have clinicians and farmers piss the good work up the wall.

“They both come from organic matter”
Oh well that makes homeopathy completely legit then.
That is Trumpian stupidity.

To be fair to JC when you’re an obscure back bencher with no chance of holding even the lowest government job saying thoughtless dumb things on social media to placate a constituent or two isn’t that bad. It’s akin to one of us sitting next to someone on a train and smiling and nodding to whatever mindless offensive bollocks they spout.

If we’re looking for sticks to beat JC with he’s provided dozens of *far* better ones.

Anyone know what rural bus fares are like in Ghana?

Anyone know what rural bus fares are like in Ghana?

Dunno.

I’m only here for the Current Popular Search Terms

I’m only here for the Current Popular Search Terms

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A fine speech from him today

Sure TJ.

From the Guardian today.

Q: John McDonnell said this morning he would campaign for remain in a second referendum. Would you? And if not, can you see why remainers have doubts about your leadership?

Corbyn says McDonnell was giving his personal view.
He says the real issue is what must be done to end inequality in Britain

Still situation normal for Corbyn.

A fine speech from him today

Strong on “National Education Service“ and bringing back slashed youth services… but some other bits, especially when answering questions, were a bit, well, empty.

This is the policy the voters of places like Sunderland, Manchester and St Albans have been waiting for.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/19/labour-commits-to-total-ban-on-keeping-monkeys-as-pets