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  • It's so very dusty in here. (Warning: happy sad dog story)
  • ads678
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    Dog dies, don’t be upset, now you can get a better one, one that does tricks!

    Oh and i would say loving dogs too much is weirder than not liking dogs.

    jambalaya
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    I saw that on facebook, I think Jedi posted it. Indeed a happy sad story.

    Pyro
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    Why would anyone who hates dogs want to open a thread which contains that warning ?

    Because it’s a public forum, we can read whatever we want to read and respond to whatever we want to respond to?

    I understand the mentality that “anyone who disagrees with me/the majority must be called out as a troll” (thanks A_A), but that’s not what I’m aiming for, I genuinely don’t understand why people get so sentimental about animals, as I said earlier. I’m not saying people shouldn’t get sentimental about animals, hell, it’s up to them. I just don’t get it.

    And I like that humans are can be very different from each other. It makes things much more interesting than if we were all the same.

    Jamie
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    I just don’t get it.

    It’s probably because you’re dead inside 😥

    richc
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    Why would anyone who hates dogs want to open a thread which contains that warning ?

    Because some people like to be miserable and drag everyone down to their level? Why be happy and easy going when you can be angry with someone on the internet who doesn’t give a shit what you think.

    Pyro
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    I have been for some time, Jamie. But I’m okay with that 🙂

    cheekyboy
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    They say that it takes all sorts to make a world but it never fails amaze me just how different from each other humans can be.

    Its the rich tapestry of life itself………..innit !

    Junkyard
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    its not trolling but to appear on every dog thread [ when the title makes it very clear what it is about] saying you hate dogs is somewhat attentions seeking/pointless

    Surely we all just [ largely] ignore threads about things we dont like /have no interest in.

    I think we all realise not everyone likes all the same things without someone appearing over and over again to tell us they dont like the thread topic.

    ernie_lynch
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    Because it’s a public forum, we can read whatever we want to read and respond to whatever we want to respond to?

    That doesn’t explain why anyone who doesn’t like dogs would want to open a thread which in the title refers to “happy sad dog story”.

    The fact that it is a public forum and that you can read whatever you want to read doesn’t mean that it’s obligatory to read and comment on things that don’t interest you.

    It all seems a little bizarre to me, this need to share with others just how negative you feel about something. And I can see that for some people that need is quite powerful. Very strange

    mattbee
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    I don’t care about all the usual STW bollocks, that made me properly cry.

    njee20
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    And I can guarantee that despite not liking dogs njee20 will repeatedly come back to this thread.

    Correct! Because, like many these things, it’s as interesting to read something that you have no interest in, as it is to read something that you have lots of interest in, and now I’m becoming embroiled in the dog-lovers love-in it’s all the more intriguing! Dog ownership being something that polarises so many – hence the “he’s just friendly” defense as your mutt bowls over a small child/sniffs your crotch etc.

    richc
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    Correct! Because, like many these things, it’s as interesting to read something that you have no interest in, as it is to read something that you have lots of interest in, and now I’m becoming embroiled in the dog-lovers love-in it’s all the more intriguing! Dog ownership being something that polarises so many – hence the “he’s just friendly” defense as your mutt bowls over a small child/sniffs your crotch etc.

    So to summarise for you njee: “I am dead inside and like to be miserable”.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    The title of the thread included the following warning : Warning: happy sad dog story.

    Why would anyone who hates dogs want to open a thread which contains that warning ?

    Its because they are trolls. Its like going on a Top Gear thread and slagging off Clarkeson…….

    This will keep them busy trying to find where I’ve done this to prove me an idiot.

    njee20
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    So to summarise for you njee: “I am dead inside and like to be miserable”.

    No, to summarise “I don’t like dogs”. However I am not in the least bit miserable, in part because I don’t give a shit that an animal I never had anything to do with is dead. Actually, to that end, I’m probably among the least miserable people on this thread!

    Pyro
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    … doesn’t mean that it’s obligatory to read and comment on things that don’t interest you.

    I think you get me wrong. It interests me that people get sentimental about animals, precisely because I don’t feel that way myself and I’d like to understand the rationale, even if I don’t wish to share it. I’m not attacking anyone else for their opinion, though apparently I’m under fire for expressing my own because I don’t agree with the majority.

    As far as the original story goes, it’s a shame the dog died. I don’t understand why the send-off was so important, and the story didn’t bring me anywhere close to tears. That’s not a ‘negative’ statement, just an “I don’t understand, really”. If people want to get mushy over what I view to be, as I said earlier, a smelly, noisy, waste of money, more power to them. Be as effusive as you like, but do me the honour of letting me at least express my confusion.

    AdamW
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    No, to summarise “I don’t like dogs”. However I am not in the least bit miserable, in part because I don’t give a shit that an animal I never had anything to do with is dead. Actually, to that end, I’m probably among the least miserable people on this thread!

    You don’t sound like it. In fact you sound pretty angry. You need to get yourself a puppy or something to get happy and calm down.

    EDIT:

    If people want to get mushy over what I view to be, as I said earlier, a smelly, noisy, waste of money, more power to them.

    Sounds like a child, no?

    Jamie
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    and the story didn’t bring me anywhere close to tears.

    You’re history’s greatest monster 😡

    Pyro
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    If people want to get mushy over what I view to be, as I said earlier, a smelly, noisy, waste of money, more power to them.

    Sounds like a child, no? [/quote]
    Yeah. Don’t particularly like them, either 🙂

    You’re histories greatest monster

    What, the Behemoth? Or the Leviathan? I wasn’t when I last checked… 🙂

    njee20
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    You’re histories greatest monster

    History’s, shirley?

    That’s not a ‘negative’ statement, just an “I don’t understand, really”.

    See, I don’t not understand, just wasn’t moved by the story in the least. The honest answer as to why I looked is that I was intrigued, and if it had been an interesting story I’d have liked it, despite not really liking dogs. As it was, I just thought “meh, not fussed by that”.

    Jamie
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    What, the Behemoth? Or the Leviathan? I wasn’t when I last checked…

    Ironically, Cerberus.

    richc
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    No, to summarise “I don’t like dogs”. However I am not in the least bit miserable, in part because I don’t give a shit that an animal I never had anything to do with is dead. Actually, to that end, I’m probably among the least miserable people on this thread!

    As others have said you don’t come across as very happy, you come across as a sad bastard who shouts at kids/dogs/cars/tree in parks for making to much noise

    Pyro
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    What, the Behemoth? Or the Leviathan? I wasn’t when I last checked…

    Ironically, Cerberus[/quote]

    GrahamS
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    I’d like to understand the rationale, even if I don’t wish to share it…
    …it’s a shame the dog died. I don’t understand why the send-off was so important, and the story didn’t bring me anywhere close to tears.

    I’m not sure where the struggle is, but to understand it maybe you just need to take “dog” out of the equation.

    Imagine that you are responsible for “a creature” and that creature is incredibly loyal and loves you unconditionally. It is always excited to see you, will walk by your side for hours when you are in an active mood, and curl up beside you at the fire when you are not. It’s funny, intelligent, empathic and it shares your life for years, maybe decades if you’re lucky, always there for you. Always.

    Then one black day you have to kill it, for it’s own good.

    It looks at you, full of love and trust, even as the poison is administered.
    Then kisses your hand as it dies.

    Can you really not understand why that might be emotional?

    richc
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    Can you really not understand why that might be emotional?

    There are a particular group of people who struggle to feel empathy, and I suspect there might be a larger than normal percentage of those people on here.

    Jamie
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    There are a particular group of people who struggle to feel empathy

    Junkyard
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    If people want to get mushy over what I view to be, as I said earlier, a smelly, noisy, waste of money, more power to them. Be as effusive as you like, but do me the honour of letting me at least express my confusion.

    I think folk would if you did them the honour of stating your view more diplomatically and you sounded like you wanted to understand the difference between you and them rather than pour scorn on them for their love of the smelly , noisy waste of money.

    Ps Clarkeson is a ****

    davidrussell
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    I’m not sure where the struggle is, but to understand it maybe you just need to take “dog” out of the equation.

    Imagine that you are responsible for “a creature” and that creature is incredibly loyal and loves you unconditionally. It is always excited to see you, will walk by your side for hours when you are in an active mood, and curl up beside you at the fire when you are not. It’s funny, intelligent, empathic and it shares your life for years, maybe decades if you’re lucky, always there for you. Always.

    Then one black day you have to kill it, for it’s own good.

    It looks at you, full of love and trust, even as the poison is administered.
    Then kisses your hand as it dies.

    Can you really not understand why that might be emotional?

    Incredibly well put graham. Not watched the vid but dread the day when this will happen with mr dogs.

    Jamie
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    Then kisses your hand as it dies.

    You hand me up to that point, then it got mawkish.

    Dogs ain’t no kissers.

    bearnecessities
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    Aye, their tongues are all over the place.

    aracer
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    Is it just me who finds the betrayal of trust a little disturbing?

    (not going near the other argument – today is an empathy day)

    Junkyard
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    what betrayal of trust?

    Jamie
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    Is it just me who finds the betrayal of trust a little disturbing?

    Try not to think about it, and now look at that sunset.

    *preps needle*

    Junkyard
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    wont be the first time someone has felt a small prick when they have been with you

    Jamie
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    Pyro
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    I think folk would if you did them the honour of stating your view more diplomatically and you sounded like you wanted to understand the difference between you and them

    Fair point, Junkyard. Always difficult to discern in text, but point taken.

    Imagine that you are responsible for “a creature” and that creature is incredibly loyal and loves you unconditionally. It is always excited to see you, will walk by your side for hours when you are in an active mood, and curl up beside you at the fire when you are not. It’s funny, intelligent, empathic and it shares your life for years, maybe decades if you’re lucky, always there for you. Always.

    See, that’s where you’ve got me. No, I can’t understand the emotion in that, because I don’t relate the ‘creature’ with the qualities you embue it with. Pet owners, it seems to me, like to project human qualities and emotions onto their pets, and I don’t believe them to be true – love, loyalty, humour, empathy, even intelligence in the human sense of the term. The ‘creature’ is not, as far as I believe, capable of that level of emotional depth, and is acting on a basic equation: Learnt ‘good’ behaviour = food and comfort; Base ‘bad’ behaviour = a thwack across the nose with a newspaper. That’s not ‘love’ or ‘loyalty’ in the human sense, just a learnt behaviour that earns the ‘creature’ a meal ticket.

    GrahamS
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    You hand me up to that point, then it got mawkish.
    Dogs ain’t no kissers.

    “Creature” y’see. I was trying to avoid “dog”

    Is it just me who finds the betrayal of trust a little disturbing?

    It’s disturbing but your role is to look after them, keep them happy and free from pain. Sometimes there is only one way to do that.

    Try not to think about it, and now look at that sunset.

    No, the flowers. Just look at the flowers Lizzie.

    rogerthecat
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    Jamie – Freeloader! But we still like him
    http://www.robynarouty.com/personal/
    *spits out tea*

    Beyonce?

    Jamie
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    FeeFoo
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    I’m abivalent about dogs and therefore have nothing of interest to contribute.

    GrahamS
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    Pet owners, it seems to me, like to project human qualities and emotions onto their pets, and I don’t believe them to be true – love, loyalty, humour, empathy, even intelligence in the human sense of the term.

    Non pet owners, it seems to me, like to forget that humans are animals too. Our emotions are not “special” or exclusive to our species.

    Learnt ‘good’ behaviour = food and comfort; Base ‘bad’ behaviour = a thwack across the nose with a newspaper. That’s not ‘love’ or ‘loyalty’ in the human sense, just a learnt behaviour that earns the ‘creature’ a meal ticket.

    Is that really so different to a human?

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