Israel's Netanyahu sparks uproar by suggesting WWII-era Palestinian leader inspi

Thankfully we can close this thread because Netanyahu has gone on Facebook and clarified his remarks:

http://gawker.com/netanyahu-clarifies-that-nazis-as-well-as-palestinians-1739691868
“Netanyahu Clarifies That Nazis, as Well as Palestinians, Were to Blame for the Holocaust”

you substantiate it

Of course, its always possible that they set up all their colonies in areas where they didn’t own any land, isn’t it?

Now, do you want to stick to your statement that:

the existing Jewish population was concentrated around Jerusalem.

Britain has no business in that place called Palestine or Israel.

Look after your own people rather than trying to cause more troubles in others’ land.

Stop being a trouble maker coz you have done enough damage.

Oh no you don’t you lefties … your concept is so backward even the communists in the far east gave up on this stooopid utopia. 😆

Time to go to bed … continue tomorrow …

“You shall not pass!” said Gandalf the grey to the beast/demon.

Thankfully we can close this thread because Netanyahu has gone on Facebook and clarified his remarks:

http://gawker.com/netanyahu-clarifies-that-nazis-as-well-as-palestinians-1739691868
“Netanyahu Clarifies That Nazis, as Well as Palestinians, Were to Blame for the Holocaust”

Well that’s a relief. While we’re on the subject, is it confirmed that the Germans invaded Poland, or was that the Palestinians too? Maybe ninfan can help us out with a map of the disposition of Palestinian tank divisions?

DrJ as I posted way back Netanyahu’s statements meant I know now far more about the Grand Mufti than I did before, his association with the Nazis, his efforts to prevent Jewish migration from Germany and the establishment of a Muslim SS unit. A history of anti-semitism from the appointed leader. What’s also clear is that in 1920 he was campaigning for a Palestinian state, ie one did not exist. The Map tennis we’ve had from JY should start before 1947, there is a clear bias to try and show Isreal is responsible for the “destruction / theft” of Palestine when in fact that’s far from the truth. As the Siani maps clearly show Gaza was in Egypt, I’m sure the Isrealis would be very happy to give that back to Egypt but the Egptians want nothing to do with it IMO which is why they have so tightly sealed the border.

JY if you think MEMRI is biased and mistranslating then feel free to make specific corrections, the pictures speak for themselves, you can’t mistranslate people waving knives or pictures of kids with blades. It’s also clear you don’t bother to watch the Vicenews pieces, they are generally balanced or if anything pro-Palestinian. The mainstream media is reporting the situation very little.

Interesting piece here from a Saudi singer who is renouncing her Saudi and Kuwaiti citizenship to take up a European nationalists. Not specific to Palestine but brave critism of the Arab world and its history

Interview link (facebook)[/url]

The Map tennis we’ve had from JY should start before 1947, there is a clear bias to try and show Isreal is responsible for the “destruction / theft” of Palestine when in fact that’s far from the truth.

Nice straw man – I have argued that it is taking Palestinian land [ or land from the indigenous population if you prefer] I have never used those words. As for bias are you saying there is another map that shows this to be untrue ? Are you arguing its not a fact just my bias? No one not even you can have the cheek to claim this is just not factually correct wherever you wish to start with your map. Use ninfans one of colonies if you like and look at the map now. My bias ,chuckles, you really do seem to be struggling to grasp reality here dont you…its just the truth dude so deal with it…if you can.
You really do have an unnatural ability to argue against indisputable facts , very strange.

JY if you think MEMRI is biased and mistranslating then feel free to make specific corrections, the pictures speak for themselves.

Feel free to work out what bias means – really jamny are you really at this level? DO i really have to explain it to you 😯
Has it got any example of Jewish folk being ranty? 🙄
Do you think I could find some on the internet within minutes of googling? Would it be a fair representation of the Israeli?jewish position? I can find Jews who think Israel should not exist again not indicative of anything really unless i just want to use them and ignore everything else. However I am not like you and I like to assimilate all the information and not just select the stuff that reinforces my prejudices. MEMRI presents, hence it appeals to you , an entirely one sided view of the most extreme of Palestinian views- its why it was created.
Again I still accept some Palestinians hate Israel and some israelis hate the Palestinians. Its really not news and the killings and conflict sort of give this point away.
So to repeat

1) do they have any clips of ranting Israelis?
2) do you think they really are reflective of the diversity of views from Palestinians or biased towards ranty ones?

We all know the answer and only your bias is stopping you , once more, accepting reality.

Junkyard – lazarus
Nice straw man – I have argued that it is taking Palestinian land [ or land from the indigenous population if you prefer] I have never used those words

I can see you … but you can’t see meeee … (he is using User Blocker btw)

Ya, keep repeating your shite propaganda. Will not work on me because I see you coming … 😆

Let’s debunked this lot … you don’t even have to bring out evidence etc coz those are just tricks to hide their true intention.

Firstly, common sense says you stay out of others affairs. No ifs or buts.

Put it this way …

They are NOT taking your land aren’t they?

They are NOT taking BritLand aren’t they?

British has no link to Palestinian people at all …

Non of the lefties I have met have any connection to the Palestinian people.

You have NO connection or blood link to that land there yet you argue stubbornly as if your life depends on that piece of sand.

Worst still you Do Not belief in their religion yet argue like a half pint on their religious affairs.

You called for Human Rights but yet all these religions treat their women as second class human and you support them without even considering the harm you extend.

Ya, what a bunch of lefties hypocrisy.

Ya, what a bunch of trouble makers.

Bias? It is worst than Bias coz at least being bias you are being unfair with something that you are link to. This lot has no connection to the region at all …

Vote Labour and you will get this lot trying to influence the govt policy on behalf of some foreign countries … without even the other countries asking … what a bunch of cartoons.

Good to know that SNP kick Labour out of Scotland and let’s hope that last forever.

Was watching Question Time … is that girl Labour Leader in Scotland … she is the leader of Scottish Labour party! Crikey! Good on them coz she is un-electable.

2) do you think they really are reflective of the diversity of views from Palestinians or biased towards ranty ones?

I think its also important to remember that the Palestinians aren’t the only non-jewish people in Israel, and the views of the Israeli arabs (about 20% of the population) seem to very much get overlooked – have seen a number of articles which indicate they are very unhappy about being lumped in with the Palestinians, and strongly opposed to any peace deal which sees them come under Palestinian control.

Ernie is correct here forgive me and go the way of the chewkw as this is futile

Even when you are essentially agreeing with me 😛

Junkyard – lazarus

Ernie is correct here forgive me and go the way of the chewkw as this is futile

Even when you are essentially agreeing with me [/quote]

Oh no you don’t! “You shall not pass!” said Gandalf the grey to the beast/demon. 😈

I intend to push this thread to 1000 to see if I can break the record … 😆

I have given up reading the lefties propaganda on this issue long time ago but it is a pity that so many people got blindly suck in by this lot especially the young ones … their minds got poisoned so easily they don’t even know what hit them when something happens.

If these lot are representative of Labour voters then voting Labour can only mean one thing … trouble making in other land. (hope the media pick all my comments and then trust it straight to their leader JC – Not Jesus Christ)

Once the young ones got suck in they start to generate the naive views that they can change the world by meddling with others’ affairs. The result will be plenty of tears if unlucky.

My motto is simple: Stay out of others’ affairs especially those of the other countries that is insignificant.

🙄

What @ninfan says about the Isreali Arabs – there is no doubt they face challenges in day to day life and in opportunities vs Jewish Isrealis but they have a quality of life and access to medical treatment which far exceeds anything else in the region. It’s my experience over the past 30 years working extensively in the Middle East that Arabs elsewhere do not approve of Isreal but almost exclusively think the Palestinaians make their own situation far worse than it needs to be.

JY find a “ranty Jewish” site yourself, I’m sure some of the Arab channels will come in handy, what about the one George Galloway gets paid £100’000’s to work for? It’s my contention that the MEMRI coverage is representative of a very significant portion of the Palestinian population and in fact a majority in Gaza. As @nim says there are extreme views on both sides but the majority of press coverage in the West focuses on Palestinian suffering without showing the degree of Islamist fundamentalism that’s present in Hamas and other groups.

The rhetoric around the 67 borders in particular continually neglects to mention Gaza was in Egypt and the West Bank in Jordan. That’s deliberate to imply Isreal invaded Palestine which it absolutely did not. Post 48 the Palestinians repeatedly breached cease-fires and where subsequently defeated and the lands lost. Repeatedly Isreal was attacked and was just a few days away from being annihilated.

As I said Netanyahu’s comments have highlighted the fact that the Grand Nudtinwas campaigning for an Arab state in Palestine in 1921 – he was doing that as one didn’t exist

It’s my experience

That you will inevitable do appeals to authority despite them being fallacious
Its my experience that you will do them to your own post despite every post having shocking factual errors a small child would not make.
Its my experience that you literally cannot learn basic things.

I dont know how but you massively missed the point on bias but yes I am aware there are bias from both sides you alone seem to be the sole person who cannot see that the sources you choose are not biased even when their original mission statement tells you it is.

It’s my contention that the MEMRI coverage is representative of a very significant portion of the Palestinian population and in fact a majority in Gaza

Its my contention your opinion is worthless and you will be unable to prove that point to be correct.

Post 48 the Palestinians repeatedly breached cease-fires and where subsequently defeated and the lands lost.

I think you need a lecture in International law and what happens when you capture foreign land by force. Anyway clearly it proves the point, you know the one you were arguing against with the maps dig, that Israel has been expansionist. You have now slumped to the point that your own points contradict your own views. Chapeau 😆
I mean seriously you cannot even make points that support your own view. Are you not embarrassed by this ?

As I said Netanyahu’s comments have highlighted the fact that the Grand Nudtin was campaigning for an Arab state in Palestine in 1921 – he was doing that as one didn’t exist

If I were you I would get the name correct of the person I was trying to make a statement about …oh Jamby you just cannot help yourself. I would then google Mandatory Palestine and sit down and have a long hard think.

Oh here let me save you the bother as i know how much you liek to reach well researched conclusions supported by the facts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
Mandatory Palestine[1] (Arabic: ??????? Filas??n; Hebrew: ??????????????? (?”?) P?l??t?n? (EY), where “EY” indicates “Eretz Yisrael” (Land of Israel)) was a geopolitical entity under British administration, carved out of Ottoman Southern Syria after World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. During its existence it was known simply as Palestine, but, in retrospect, as distinguishers, a variety of other names and descriptors including Mandatory or Mandate Palestine, also British Palestine and the British Mandate of Palestine, have been used to refer to it.

MY bold but probably not enough to get you ot STFU or admit you are wrong

Let see if this picture helps you NB the name was applied afterwards- I wonder what it looks like and what country took the land.
It really is ludicrous, even for you , to argue they have not disposed the Palestinians of land because it did not exist. Its not even sophist its point and laugh [ or in your case open mouthed as you actually think its credible]

Failing that you could of course look at Ninfans map, the one you praised, and noted what the key for that is

Jesus H Christ man your views are ludicrous, full of bias and utterly at odds with the facts
Only you could argue that a man appointed under the British mandate to Palestine proves that Palestine did not exist 😆
I wish your views were not so funny as I realise you dont listen to facts but they dont half make me chuckle

Please stop, please.

British mandate or not … you might as well refer back to your days of empire.

On the one hand you hate British empire and on the other hand you want to refer back to history … damn! Talking about hypocrisy.

Britain is No longer significant in affairs of Palestinian/Israel. Those are foreign lands that are not yours!

Shameless bunch of look at me! Look at me wannabe!

Stay out and look after your own British people rather then trying to meddle with others affairs. They are NOT British citizen.

Go away! 😆