Ineos Grenadier gives cyclists a Toot

And a car coming up behind a cyclist is not a potential danger????

Note the guidance says Danger not potential danger – and if the car is being driven properly its should not even be a potential danger

I am always astonished how anti cyclist this forum can be

Its so clearly against the guidance to use a horn in this way

Are you really saying you are a potential danger to every cyclist you pass? Jeepers you need your license taken away ASAP

Rubbish . Your simply trying to justify your nonsense.

Your simply trying to justify your nonsense.

Oh the ironing….

Brads – highway code makes it clear the horn is only to be used if there is a danger. Now are you a danger to every cyclist you pass?

If you cannot pass a cylist safely then hand back your license. Using a horn in this way is clearly against the highway code

Blimey, I came here for a bit of light relief from speaker cables.

Oh the ironing

Explain

And the Highway Code is a guide.
Not one right minded person should see a problem with a considerate driver letting cyclists know they are approaching or are behind them in some situations.
Your pretty much disagreeing for the sake of it.

Plenty sound a quick toot on the horn behind me and I appreciate

Bollocks do they. You don’t half post some shite.

Anyone who toots their horn when approaching a cyclist is a bellend.

Bollocks do they. You don’t half post some shite.

Seriously , stop talking pish.
Your telling me no one has ever sounded a horn just to let you know they are there?

If not maybe it’s because they know you.

In 15 years of cycling 9 miles each way through Black Country traffic, it has never happened.

Perhaps it’s because I’m not a ****.

Never no. I have had people toot “GET OUT OF MY WAY PLEB” but never a freiendly toot no.

And the Highway Code is a guide.

some of it is law, some is guidance, not following the guidence is poor driving and can lead to prosecution

Not one right minded person should see a problem with a considerate driver letting cyclists know they are approaching or are behind them in some situations.

No considerate driver blows their horn behind a cyclist. Its dangerous.

I give up.
Bullshit overload and the arrogant tits have arrived
Complain away . The worlds not listening but your echo chamber is

Perhaps it’s because I’m not a ****.

Somehow I doubt that

” he’s a boring troll TJ, I should know better after the last time he got upset.

Actually scxc – I don’t think he is. Brads is a man with a very different world view to me and the multiple world views on here make it valuable

I know from experience if you have a minority view on here then its hard not to get annoyed

We’ll disagree on that
He outed himself a while ago.

sc xc – a troll is someone who seeks out deliberately to wind yup others. I don’t see Brad doing that just expressing his view forcefully

Don’t worry, luket and kerley have start the same discussion up again, so you can start from page 5.

Haven’t we just?

Sorry!

TJ & SCXC – I think you’ll find that quite a few people on this thread disagree with your views on this issue.

indeed a few do. shame they are wrong both in law and in practise 🙂

I think we need to define the competency of the cyclist in question,
A lockdown noob wobbling everywhere with no awareness needs a full fog horn blast whereas a Colnago Rapha buffer needs a toot and ‘STRAVA!’ shouted outta the window.

pedlad
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I’m surprised no one’s suggested they drive one up behind their own TdF team and see if the toot helps them go a bit quicker!

About 8 years ago I was riding the Paris Roubaix ride the day before and an Astana team car turned on the sector. After about 5 minutes of sitting behind middle aged heros (yes, me) whoever was in the car put their music on through the external loudspeaker – Highway to Hell.
Bastards.
Funny though 😊

No considerate driver blows their horn behind a cyclist. Its dangerous.

Agree, but again, has anybody actually heard the toot? Is it a quite and more polite noise in comparison to a horn as presumably it is not just another horn as there is already a horn for horn stuff?

And clearly you don’t need to let a cyclist know you are behind them but a case where it could be used if if you are following a group of cyclists who are spread across the whole road then you could give a polite toot to let them know you will be passing and they could organise themselves to more easily allow it as even going completely onto the other side of road means you are close to the outside rider. Just road manners from both parties and using an actual horn in that scenario would be aggressive and wrong.

And the Highway Code is a guide.
Not one right minded person should see a problem with a considerate driver letting cyclists know they are approaching or are behind them in some situations.
Your pretty much disagreeing for the sake of it.

Strange how I don’t remember a driver needing to “toot” at me ever when riding a bike. Polite or not.

Only dangerous drivers use a horn like that. Because a horn is only to advise of danger.

… thus spake the non-driver.

That’s not what a horn is for at all. It’s to alert others of your presence.

And again, it is not a horn. The car has a horn and also has the toot button so you have to think that it won’t be like a horn (not as loud, not as aggressive sounding)

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

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The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn

while stationary on the road
when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am

except when another road user poses a danger.

Read the link I put up to the highway code also note the word NEED. there is simply no need to do this

fortunatly most folk do not think like the “get out of my way” lot on here and I have only very rarely been tooted at and that has always been a “get out of my way pleb”

Its stupid dangerous and entitled

It really does amaze me how anti bike so many folk are on here

Maybe it will have a recording of Alan Carr saying “Hiya!!!”

Poop poop went Mr Toad

Regardless of whether tooting the horn behind a cyclist is a dick move or not, what’s the cyclist meant to do upon hearing it? If the answer is nothing, which it should be, then what’s the point of it? I only need alerting if you’re about to plough into me, and even then, there’s probably nothing I can do about it.

It’s the same conversation about riding with headphones, what exactly am I missing out in riding on the road with headphones?

Not anti bike at all, just see it from another perspective. I’ve never felt the need to toot anyone but coming round a blind bend on a country road I think a less obnoxious horn would be a handy thing to alert people of your presence. Maybe that’s just coming from an industrial setting where 3 tonnes of forklift pootling at 5mph can still cause untold carnage if someone isn’t paying attention to their surroundings, hence the toot as you approach doorways or blind corners.

Regardless of whether tooting the horn behind a cyclist is a dick move or not, what’s the cyclist meant to do upon hearing it? If the answer is nothing, which it should be, then what’s the point of it?

What are people walking along a gravel road supposed to do when I ring my bell – nothing. But they appreciate me letting them know I will be passing them. It really is that simple.

squirrel king – blind corners yes – a good use of the horn. Behind a cyclist is not the correct use of a horn in the highway code

the attitudes on here are very Mr Toad

What are people walking along a gravel road supposed to do when I ring my bell – nothing. But they appreciate me letting them know I will be passing them. It really is that simple.

It’s not how I see it at all. I ring my bell on a narrow shared path so that people know I’m approaching from behind and likely passing by pretty close. I’m not sure I want that to become accepted practice on the road…

That Beep would be very handy to shake up some of the dozy bastards riding along single track roads on the likes of the NC500 and in the Hebrides.

And the Highway Code is a guide.

Yes but not a to be taken lightly guide as you seem to be implying here, and in it there are many references that begin with the word ‘Should’ which itself is not a demand, but a suggestion of actions carried out based upon studies of what can go wrong.
But there are also many, in fact most sections that start with the word ‘Must’ as in you must.

Just to clarify 🙂

scotroutes – Is that the ones in big 4WD and campers? I find them the worst 🙂

Polite tooting here ……
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