I love Americans, but there is something seriously wrong over there…

when you can get one of these[/url] just down the corner. 😯

I find it very sad that we live in a world where that exists.

Their system of government and democracy is very broken indeed. Even more than ours.

Their system of government and democracy is very broken indeed. Even more than ours

I thought that is why they want the guns, so they can fight the government when they have finally had enough of them….. I think they are going to need bigger guns 😉

I thought this was going to be about Teen Excorcists on the iplayer

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I thought this was going to be about Teen Excorcists on the iplayer

Actually, since you mention it, add them too. Flippin’ Heck.

This is just a problem of how law is applied across the whole world. It is about finite detail rather than about moral obligation. It is exactly the same principle that allows things like tax avoidance.

I wish I could see a path to change it, bit I can’t, and it is very very sad.

450 rounds per minute is nowhere near enough though

In Colorado its still legal to fire an automatic weapon from a helicopter…. plus they’ve just legalised pot. You’ve just gotta love those crazy Yanks.

A Texas-based gun company has found a way to transform a one-shot rifle into a lethal killing machine

because a semi automatic rifle isn’t a lethal killing machine? You learn something new every day!

so they can fight the government when they have finally had enough of them

As I understand it, that is indeed the constitutional justification (logically, they need to update it to allow citizens to own Tomahawk missiles). The really sad thing is that the gun lobby genuinely believe that they are right (and that the rest of the world is backward and needs their protection).

Well at least they believe in equal opportunities…

http://www.localnews8.com/news/Iowa-gives-gun-permits-to-the-blind/-/308662/21839618/-/sygcsez/-/index.html

I don’t see what to problem is… if you watch the video, it’s even safe and amusing for grannies; might cut down on hats, gloves and tea cosies at crimbo though if she took to shooting up the place rather than knitting.

That is a good rifle … I want one …

Well, guns don’t kill people do.
Kill the people and the gun is safe.

🙄

Weirdest thing I saw was in a Walmart in Flagstaff Arizona.
Walked past the kids toys section and straight into the rifles, hand guns, machete and (deer) body bag section.
It was a serial killers paradise in a supermarket. Surreal really!

I read something the other day, possible in the guardian, that was saying, in several states its legal to own a handgun. If your blind. 😯
No checks, nothing. Walk in storr with your white stick, leave with a 9mm.
Yep, somethings wrong.

I read something the other day, possible in the guardian, that was saying, in several states its legal to own a handgun. If your blind.
No checks, nothing. Walk in storr with your white stick, leave with a 9mm.
Yep, somethings wrong.

Something is indeed wrong: apostrophes, spelling, and that blatant prejudice against blind people’s rights. Shocking.

All seems reasonable to me.

The before school checklist:

Three days ago in Colorado :

NRA claims victory as Colorado gun control senators defeated

The American gun lobby claimed a major victory last night after it helped unseat two Colorado senators who spearheaded efforts to pass new gun control laws. [/b]

Money buys you serious political clout in the US. And the NRA has plenty of money.

Damn those americans with their democracy and written constitution!

There’s only three countries in the world which don’t have a written constitution Z-11, so I’m not sure what your point is.

And the US doesn’t have a monopoly on democracy, so I don’t understand the significance of your “damn those americans with their democracy” comment.

Unbelievable. 😐

We were in the States on holiday in the summer and whilst in a Walmart I was looking at the gun counter in amazement, shotgun cartridges on the shelves not even under lock and key FFS. There was a childs size .22 ‘squirrel rifle’ with a pastel pink stock. I pointed it out to my daughter who said (bearing in mind this was in Oklahoma so a real gun toting state) “Daddy, why would little girls need a gun” and to my surprise the guy behind the counter said “that is a very good question young lady”. Why?

Comments are pretty interesting too. and as for being “Scared of Freedom”, after Wiki Leaks and Ed Snowdon they and us may be deluding ourself as to how much freedom we actually have…

to my surprise the guy behind the counter said “that is a very good question young lady”

Not EVERYONE in the states is pro gun, you know. There’s a lot of heated debate about gun control, in fact.

Americans are thick as **** to be fair, they’d be a third world country if it wasn’t for us.

Racism?

As an American friend of mine said:
“Gun control is an excuse we use here in the USA to not discuss issues of racial and economic inequality. If you’re white, the US is as safe or safer than many countries in Europe which we are unfavorably compared to.”

He is right as well.

Americans are thick as **** to be fair, they’d be a third world country if it wasn’t for us.

Poor trolling from a thick Brit? Or just not well travelled?

they’d be a third world country if it wasn’t for us.

Oh go on, I can’t resist ………why’s that then ?

Poor trolling from a thick Brit? Or just not well travelled?

If it’s a troll it’s hardly a poor troll as they got you hook line and sinker.

rapid single shots are more accurate than automatic fire and conserve ammunition, it’s also easier to count the rounds to anticipate mag changes….

these are important considerations when you are preparing to take on a zombie horde which can the only (remotely) logical reason for a civilian to own such a weapon

Not exactly relevant to the example of that ^ ugly/despicable killing machine up there but the older i get the more jaded i become about where we are heading as a so western democratic caring society, in fact i now genuinely believe that our form of veneered democracy in our developed world is nothing more than a smokescreen pulled over our eyes to placate us into believing we actually have a choice as to what goes on so in the manner of “dragons den”……I’m out.

And to the makers of that weapon above and the meathead who’s pulling the trigger in that video? – i genuinely pity you, but if i ever had the chance to meet the CEO or suchlike of that company i’d bitch-slap them in the face and ask ” Why?, what is the point?.

Not EVERYONE in the states is pro gun, you know. There’s a lot of heated debate about gun control, in fact.

Yep, especially if you’re black and live in Florida!

Never mind the guns. They voted Dubya in!! TWICE!!!

I like guns.
And it if it hadn’t have been for government I’d still have my guns and be enjoying them. So dont know what their talking about.

I would never disagree with someone without walking a mile in their shoes because firstly, I’d be a mile away and id also have your shoes.

I’ll bet the vast majority of people posting on this thread have never fired a shot.

I like guns.

Just curious here. It’s not some sort of dig with a rhetorical point.

But why?

I’m guessing its similar to my brothers Archery kit. But don’t have any real understanding.

I like trebuchets – but it’s irresponsible to own one in a built-up area.

Oh I dunno – Truro Cycles [as was, mad as a box of frogs] build a deodorant cannon and fired stuff across a couple of street at Clive Mitchell’s place once…. 😉

I find it really rather stupid when the pro gun lobby claim that having such weapons available to all and sundry makes them all safer.

How many times have we heard the phrase ‘The weapons were legally held’ following yet another tragic nut jobs rampage of murder.