Robb, I write to you with a heavy heart. Our good king Robert is dead, killed from wounds he took in a boar hunt. Father has been charged with treason. He conspired with Robert’s brothers against my beloved Joffrey and tried to steal his throne. The Lannisters are treating me very well and provide me with every comfort. I beg you: come to King’s Landing, swear fealty to King Joffrey and prevent any strife between the great houses of Lannister and Stark.
So just to check, Gendry and Jon are brothers, right?
Nope. Gendry’s father (Robert Baratheon) killed Jon’s father (Rhaegar Targaryen) coincidentally* with the same style of battle axe as Gendry favours.
Nobody other than Bran and Howland Reed (whose only been shown in the Tower of Joy flashback sequence) know that Jon was Lyanna Stark’s child and the only evidence to say that he was born in wedlock and therefore the rightful King of the seven kingdoms is in the book that Gilly was reading from and which I guess is in Sam’s cart and heading North.
Edit: Hmm. So if the annulment talk was in relation to Jon’s real dad being married at the time he was born, that means he supersedes Danny’s claim to any throne?
Just watched the last 2.
Great episodes. Liked the slower pace of this one.
Nice gag about Gendry still rowing. Not sure about the plastic hammer though.
Little finger still managing to stay one step ahead…
Hmm. So if the annulment talk was in relation to Jon’s real dad being married at the time he was born, that means he supersedes Danny’s claim to any throne?
Yep. I think Daenerys is Jon’s aunt and second in that line of succession.
No, he adopted him as his bastard.
Jon was adopted as Ned’s bastard. Ned made out he was conceived whilst away at war.
Gendry is the last surviving bastard of Robert Baratheon. He had loads of kids outside of his marriage, Cersei had them all killed except Gendry who slipped through the net.
Pretty good episode but the opening sequence pissed me off a bit, they really swam 2-300m under water wearing armour? pfft they could have at least had a fast flowing river or something if they’re going to be cheesed away rather than captured.
I’m glad Little Finger is actually up to something rather than sidelined/in fear as we were being led to believe. Wonder if he’s had Faceless training as well…
Yeah the opening scene was frankly ludicrous…but there you go, soon forgot about it.
Clearly Jon Snow bonding with the dragon suggests he will be riding one soon? I’m a bit concerned about the lack of plan to capture a dead warrior, sounds a bit tricky!
I’m glad Little Finger is actually up to something rather than sidelined/in fear as we were being led to believe. Wonder if he’s had Faceless training as well…
*Adopts non specific Irish accent akin to a malevolent Leprechaun* Well if he did, he wouldn’t be going around challenging people to duels in the courtyard would he? No. Certain secrets are better kept secret.
Given how fast everyone is zipping round the map, I can only assume the undead are moving at a pace favoured by the shuffling zombies of George A. Romero’s films, rather than the sped up versions in Zack Snyder’s Dawn of the Dead from 2004.
Look it’s very simple. There are no roads north of the wall, and pretty much all of them, even The Nights King, forgot to fully charge their phones the night before they set off. Consequently the GPS ate through their batteries and they are effectively left wandering snowblind.
There’s dragons, zombies, children of the forest and giants but some how it’s silly when someone swims 200m in armour.
Because the story has laid the groundwork for those things to exist.
Bron and Jaime being amphibians has not been addressed previously. So it’s somewhat surprising that they appear to be able to breathe underwater, and in Jaime’s case, counter the effects of physics by not sinking like a stone.
All of the so called time travel occurs in or on water.
Exceptionally strong currents in the Blackwater Rush shot Jaime and Bronn rapidly downstream and conveniently spat them out on the beach.
Other, conveniently placed and exceptionally strong, ocean currents exist between all the major locations where the plot unfolds.
Euron doesn’t need to know where anyone is. He just gets in a boat and rides the nearest plot current which whisks him away to wherever the script demands.
Just like Finding Nemo.
*awaits geeky rebuttal and a link to an online map of the maritime currents of Westeros
Hmmm. Is Arya getting played by Littlefinger, or is she allowing herself to be played in order to draw him out? Surely Bran could have a word and just tell them what he’s up to? Unless perhaps Littlefinger’s chicanery is ultimately going to fulfil some greater purpose? Maybe he’s just decided to be a bit Emo and not tell them.
Now that Jon’s right of succession is established, I predict the following:
1. Before long, we’ll see Jon riding the Dragon conveniently named after his Da.
2. Daenerys ain’t making it to the end.
Edit: The above predictions might be seem a bit gauche, but I’ve not looked at any spoiler/speculation discussions, besides this one.
Is this from the books? a Spoiler? or did I nod off and miss something in one of the episodes?
Basically, the R+L=J theory, talked about here by the excellent recapper Alt+Shift+x back in 2014, is true and hints have been dropped throughout the last series. With hints increasing as time has gone on.
Arya & Sansa are (successfully) being played off against each other by Littlefinger, Arya may have the faceless men skills but he’s got a lifetimes worth of experience being a sneaky shit.
I think Bran, although he has the potential to see everything, can’t as he doesn’t have enough experience/training yet. (Think this was explained in the show). So although he’s seen glimpses he doesn’t know exactly what has/will happened/happen.
All this “rightful king” stuff is bollocks surely, I thought that was the point (petty squabbling whilst ignoring the real danger and all that?) The Targaryians only appointed themselves thusly after they flew in on dragons and murderd everyone else who disagreed. Although if anyone can unite everyone it will be JS, as he is at least descended from both the first men (via the Starks) and the foreign invaders (Targaryians).
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I was thinking the dragon taking to Jon snow was him possibly being of Targaryen blood
There was loads of obvious nods to jon being the main dude in that, from patting the dragon on the head, to being shot standing above denerys when they were leaving, to sams missus reading the book that was just about to reveal the secret marriage(Which makes me guess that bran has a different purpose from just telling jon about his geneolgy, well either that or it’s a completely pointless story! I guess he’ll have a big part to play in the final show down with the night king, they are aware of each other) and a few others i think I can’t remember.
Not at all. There is so much happening in relation to lore etc. I only just about know what’s going on as I watch Alt+Shift+X‘s recaps to see what I have missed.