F1 2021 – spoilers here

That’s a bit cheeky of whoever’s doing the PoorEnergy tweets, they’ve even nicked the logo and everything!

Well there’s a video on twitter, 2 and a bit minutes of “alternate facts” and then it cuts mid sentence before any announcement

Rich Energy, now with added covfefe

Well that told us a lot

#RichEnergy #F1 #Comeback #ValentinesDay #Announcement pic.twitter.com/9QgzlMW4ph

— Rich Energy HQ (@rich_energy) February 14, 2021

Part 2

Part 2 #RichEnergy #F1 #Comeback #Announcement #ValentinesDay #WilliamStorey #FormulaOne #British #Entrepreneur #GivesyouWins pic.twitter.com/TJQ0QBDPRK

— Rich Energy HQ (@rich_energy) February 14, 2021

Is he delusional?

So his mate is buying a majority stake in an existing team and they’ll be title sponsor in 22……

Sounds legit to me 😂😂😂

Crikey. What if he is mates with Ratcliffe/Ineos?

What if he is mates with Ratcliffe/Ineos?

Merc leave as a constructor at end of 2021, team becomes Rich Energy Ineos Aston Martin, current Aston Martin team sold to that Russian chap.

That guy is pure mental! Wtf is Rich Energy anyway and why are they using Whyte bikes logo? 🤣

We always need someone to laugh at.
Will it be Vettel or Mazapin taking over?

Mazapin.

I’m not convinced Mazepin will actually be good comedy fodder; I’m anticipating more a case of just being plain unpleasant, both on and off track 😐

I’m anticipating more a case of just being plain unpleasant, both on and off track

I’m anticipating Hamilton, Alonso, and the other big boys taking him around the back of the bike sheds and teaching him that little boys don’t get to sit at the same table as big boys.

Red Bull Powertrains are go – looks like the takeover of Honda’s F1 engine dept has been finalised for ’22 to ’24.

PJM1974
Free Member

Red Bull Powertrains are go – looks like the takeover of Honda’s F1 engine dept has been finalised for ’22 to ’24.

Good news that Honda’s hard work will not have been wasted, but I’m still really surprised that Ferrari agreed to this. They must have no real idea how competitive their 2021 engine will be against the 2021 Merc. If it’s crap then its basically resigned them to mid field for another 4 years.

Well if the McLaren was going to be the most radical change from last season this is going to be a very dull car launch period!! 🤣🤣

https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/15/first-pictures-mclaren-reveals-its-new-mercedes-powered-mcl35m-for-2021/

They must have no real idea how competitive their 2021 engine will be against the 2021 Merc. If it’s crap then its basically resigned them to mid field for another 4 years.

Not really. They’ll have another chance to get it right before the ’22 season.

so we’ll have a black merc, and an orange merc and one presumes a green and pink merc

Well if the McLaren was going to be the most radical change from last season this is going to be a very dull car launch period!!

In the past a lot of ‘launch’ cars have had old wings and stuff on them, so the regs just mean this season will just be a logical extension of that. I expect the biggest interest will be livery changes – Aston, Alpine and Williams?

I’ve never understood why anyone takes car launches seriously. What they turn up with at testing will be different, and what they take to the first race will be different again.

It’s relatively safe to say that the aero package seen yesterday on the MCL35M is purely for launch purposes.

Gary Anderson’s take on the MCL35M

“I have to say that I’m not overly impressed with what I’ve seen so far. Yes, the changes are limited by the rules but I’d hope to see slightly more significant upgrades”.

simondbarnes

Not really. They’ll have another chance to get it right before the ’22 season.

They only have 3 chances to bring updates without taking penalties during this year, then Mercedes can potentially take another step forward in the offseason before the freeze.

There is also no provision for levelling performance after the freeze. I think Ferrari (and actually RB power) are massively on the back foot.

BTW, is it just me or does everyone else suspect that this William Storey bloke has personal hygiene issues that could curdle milk?

I see the McLaren has that flattened off Mercedes nose on it this year

I see the McLaren has that flattened off Mercedes nose on it this year

The actually trialled and raced it last year in order to avoid using a development token this year: Here.

Ah i didn’t know that. Cheers

so we’ll have a black merc, and an orange merc and one presumes a green and pink merc

F1 was pretty good when almost everyone used the Cosworth DFV.

BTW, is it just me or does everyone else suspect that this William Storey bloke has personal hygiene issues that could curdle milk?

Funny, I think he’s the other way – one of those preening,  hyper-toiletried blokes who has beard wax, hair mousse,  moisturiser,  400 different beard trimmer attachments and smells of Brut – but a stupidly expensive alternative called Spillâge or something.

F1 was pretty good when almost everyone used the Cosworth DFV.

wasn’t referring to the engine…..

For 2021, we’re going to have four Merc powered teams (Merc, Aston, McLaren, Williams), three Ferrari powered teams (Ferrari, Alfa, Haas), two with Honda (Red Bull and Alpha Tauri) and only Alpine with er, Renault.

I wonder if a comparative lack of testing and race mileage will hurt Alpine/Renault’s development over the next couple of seasons?

Do engine upgrades have to be applied across the board? Say Ferrari come up with something, could they only upgrade Alpha’s engine for instance, test it there and then introduce it and the next upgrade together to Ferrari, who then have only had one upgraded engine rather than two and so can have a further one later in the season?

andrewh
Free Member

Do engine upgrades have to be applied across the board? Say Ferrari come up with something, could they only upgrade Alpha’s engine for instance, test it there and then introduce it and the next upgrade together to Ferrari, who then have only had one upgraded engine rather than two and so can have a further one later in the season?

Customers have to have the same power units available as the main team. I think a team that’s a powertrain supplier could do what you suggest for the two different cars in their own cars, by just giving the updates to the drivers alternately, but those updates would have to be made available for example to AlfaRomeo & Haas as soon as Ferrari ran them.

I don’t believe the customers must use the same parts as the engine supplier makes available in certain areas (software is one), so there is potentially a grey area there?

I presume RB could do the same over their two and AlphaTauri’s two cars, but I’m not 100% sure. Moot point considering they’re not doing any dev (apparently).

Do engine upgrades have to be applied across the board? Say Ferrari come up with something, could they only upgrade Alpha’s engine for instance, test it there and then introduce it and the next upgrade together to Ferrari

Good question, TBH I don’t know. We do know that Ferrari’s 2020 engine was down on power due to some unspecified FIA sanction, which meant that the car didn’t operate in it’s expected performance window, thus drag was more of a factor than anticipated. I don’t know whether Alfa Romeo and Haas will be using 2020 spec engines, or if they’ll be using 21 spec Ferrari power.

AFAIK, teams always get the latest upgrade unless there are reliability concerns. They don’t run customer spec engines that are a step behind anymore. The lead times on the major components are quite long so they need to have everything scheduled months ahead. I think Merc have decided to just do an upgrade for the start of the season and run that spec for the whole year.

One careful owner? https://www.planetf1.com/news/sebastian-vettel-supercars-sale/

One careful owner?

Does the traction control have a “Vettel Mode” that sets off random spins for the amusement of onlookers?

getting rid before Mr Ferrari asks for them back ?

getting rid before Mr Ferrari asks for them back ?

Probably selling to recoup some of the costs of buying this!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.vettel-purchases-mansells-iconic-championship-winning-williams.Ds1acKQ2f6BtqhrGp34EZ.html

As he didnt want to pay this much for this!!!!!

https://uk.motor1.com/news/443836/vettel-ferrari-f2004-too-expensive/

Well at least they have got it rolling. Fingers crossed it helps get them even closer to the top this season.

I really do wish McLaren well for 2021. They’re in a far better place than they were in 2018, even without Alonso. Will be interesting to see how they perform in testing at Bahrain next to Aston, Alpine and Ferrari.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but I’m sure that Ricciardo has been propelled by Renault power ever since the start of the hybrid era, so there will be some acclimatisation for him getting used to the Merc engine.

And it would be really, really nice if F1 cars didn’t have to have a wheelbase of 137 metres.

Over 1 twitter accounts are suggesting we're taking over Haas…

… just saying pic.twitter.com/i6XohPwQex

— PoorEnergy (@PoorEnergy) February 17, 2021