F1 2016 (Bound to contain spoilers!)

well that went fast .. lots of blue flags and big winners in the race. Nice drives from Vettel, Hamilton but as usual its was a case of what couldve been for both.

I guess media relations will resume pretty soon once the drivers are reminded of their media obligations and full respect to the team. If this carries on it could be deja vu from last seasons final races. Its looking like the big man upstairs may have to intervene if Hamilton is to win the Championship

Does look ominous for Rosberg winning it this year. The only thing that will get Hamilton back in there is a mechanical failure really, Rosberg proved in Malaysia that the Merc has enough inherent speed to salvage a podium from a first-lap incident. He’s going to win a championship in the same way his dad did, consistent scoring beating other, more talented drivers who have had poorer luck. Won’t make his championship worth less than any other but won’t mark him out as a great driver either.

Pity as I really don’t like Rosberg, comes across as boring and fake with the ‘German’ nationality but living in Monaco all his life, only showing ‘passion’ when the cameras are on him and him having an aura of the boring accountant about him. He won’t be a charismatic champion that the media likes ‘for sure’.

There’s still a chance for LH, a DNF from Rosberg and win for LH and the lead is back to 8 points….

What was the race like? I didn’t bother.

Good, action all through it.

Conspiracy corner: Has the reason LH has been beating NR but LH’s engines blow up more often been because LH has had the wick turned up more? And now Mercedes management have said no more exploding engines NR is suddenly looking relatively better?

Just a thought.

Only slightly odd immature chebends and peados use snapchat above the age of 14.

That’s kind of the point, but couched in sneering tones.

Lewis does engage with the youth. Unlike most of the other drivers and the whole circus. That’s why he’s ‘cool’ coz he’s the only driver most young folk will recognise. Not for is driving, but for his persona.

Sadly that’s what F1 needs; someone to drag new fans in at the bottom. Heaven knows it won’t be the spectacle of the racing.

Are people still lauding Hamilton’s catwalk lifestyle? Or has he been told to stop pissing around and spend some more time praciticing starts?
Reasonable comeback drive though.
Max seems to be a bit more mature when he doesn’t have to deal with others.
Good to see Vettel liven up a bit, I can’t see the Ferrari warning to him had anything to do with that though.
Can’t have been a boring race as it flew by.

On the comment ^^^

Ever seen a 40something male in a pub wearing Fox/Skateboarder type kit?

Seems every other cyclist wears this casually

Aye – pretty much all over now for Lewis. He needs more than one mechanical for Rosberg.

He’s not really been on it since Austin last year. He seems to have lost an edge. Perhaps a change of scene is in order?

Not on it? Except that winning 6 out of 7 streak earlier in the year. He’s been undone by reliability this year but its not the first time that’s been a factor in the wdc and won’t be the last. The pressure is off Nico now, he can pretty much coast home given the dominance of the merc.

He’s just as much been undone by not bring able to start properly. In something like 5 races he has messed up the start.

I’m sure Hamilton feels it doesnt sit right either with his starts. Especially seeing the rest of the grid dont seem to have half as many bad starts as he does. Is it the pressure, is it the car, is it a higher power?

Fair point dragon, without checking I’d guess the only time they’ve both made a clean front row start is when they took each other off.

Great shot on Twitter of the loads F1 tyres are under…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuaxwAGXEAAGf4y.jpg

That’s punctured surely

Doesn’t look like it; look at the suspension arms. There’s a lot of upwards deflection on the left side.

I wouldn’t rule out an anti-roll bar failure, though

I think it’s normal – if you watch the slow-mo replays during races the tyre deformation is eye-opening. Apparently the torque of the new engines is enormous.

Another one of Vettel in Eau Rouge…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNE9aLsUcAAQvVp.jpg

That’s the extreme of the suspension movement I’d have thought, probably been bumped over the kerb and compressed on landing as the front right is under very little load compared the the right rear. Having the rear diffuser at that angle means it won’t generate downforce!

Still doesn’t explain why Pirelli can’t produce a tyre that is consistent when pushed, Bridgestone and Michelin (Indy aside) managed fine when the cars were generating similar (maybe slightly higher) loads.

Why is this happening? Worrying in regards to potential tyre failure(?)

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Why is this happening? Worrying in regards to potential tyre failure(?)

It’s a squashy thing getting squashed, happens anywhere a tyre gets stressed (plenty of DH slowmo’s over the years showing much the same)

Why is this happening? Worrying in regards to potential tyre failure(?)

Well they’re not exactly low profile. Very tall sidewalls. I imagine they are designed to cope.

Still doesn’t explain why Pirelli can’t produce a tyre that is consistent when pushed,

They’re producing the tyres that the fia asked them to produce. If the fia change the spec (as for next year) then pirelli can change construction to suit, but they’ve been pretty much working in the dark each year as they’ve not been able to develop the tyres on representative cars. Hence the demands for 2017 test mules.

They had a dedicated test car before entering and still got it wrong, Since then they’ve consistently had to modify tyres mid-season to cope, force high pressures and suspension geometry limits on the teams and consistently defend themselves in the media. After a few seasons of data mining from every team they should have a handle on it by now.

The failure of Pirelli to produce a racy and degrading tyre comes down to their decision to use thermal degredation as the mechanism for causing the tyres to wear fast. They have had ample opportunities to change this philosophy but they haven’t. This is why the teams were desperate for Michelin to come in the last time the tyre contract came up for renewal.

Hulk to Renault is now official.

Presumably this will mean the affable but hapless Palmer is getting the boot.

Presumably this will mean the affable but hapless Palmer is getting the boot.

Probably and Magnussen too as it looks like they have approached Bottas as well.

Red Bull really should release Sainz though – what are they going to do with him? Unless they have plans to oust Ricciardo the Red Bull line-up looks set for a good few years to come.

leaving him stuck in Toro Rosso isn’t fair.

Currently Magnussen is looking more likely to get the boot than Palmer

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Looks like Lance Stroll is a dead cert for Williams

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2016/10/a-new-teenager-in-f1-lance-stroll-williams-announcement-due-in-early-november/

It would appear highly probable that the scenario in which Ron Dennis reconsiders, reappraises and revokes the agreement which heretofore has upheld his position as principal executive of the mclaren racing team is appearing to become more likely to come into effect in a measurable quantum of time no longer than 12 calendar months.

Or without the ronspeak it looks like his contract isn’t being renewed.

Ron Dennis is out?

Interesting stuff happening on the engineering front too:

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2016/10/blow-to-toro-rosso-as-top-f1-engineer-leaves-engineering-merry-go-round-begins/

Sauce for Ron story

I suspect that Ron’ll be back next season

Looks like we may have a race on tomorrow between Red Bull and Mercedes:

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2016/10/commentary-nico-rosberg-tops-austin-fp2-red-bull-beats-mercedes-on-long-run-pace/

Hopefully Hamilton will be on fire this weekend and win with the Red Bulls and Ferrari’s helping to prove that Rosberg can’t duel in wheel-to-wheel combat and lose a few points. Should spice things up for the last 3 races then.

It would appear highly probable that the scenario in which Ron Dennis reconsiders, reappraises and revokes the agreement which heretofore has upheld his position as principal executive of the mclaren racing team is appearing to become more likely to come into effect in a measurable quantum of time no longer than 12 calendar months.

Well played, sir! 🙂

Red Bull really should release Sainz though – what are they going to do with him? Unless they have plans to oust Ricciardo the Red Bull line-up looks set for a good few years to come.
leaving him stuck in Toro Rosso isn’t fair.

I think that Sainz is amongst a few very talented drivers (like Hulkenburg and Bottas also) that are really unfortunate to have come along when there is a particularly competitive field, a situation that has been made worse until very recently by the old guard (Massa, Raikonnen and Button) having long careers. Now they are already being squeezed by the new crop like Wehrlein, Ocon et al. Tough times!

Hammy gets pole.
Should make for a good one.

I think the 2nd car in quali usually goes on to win.. But at least it makes Rosberg have to put in a shift with the red bulls and Ferraris close behind. I wonder if Hamiltons 7th gear shift problems gets sorted overnight

Nicely set up for a repeat of last year’s first corner fun 😀

If either of the Ferrari’s (most likely Vettel) gets a jump then all bets are off 😆