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  • Klunk
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    merc conspiracy not an FIA one 😉 I don’t believe in it the engineer panicked and blurted out the solution !

    Daffy
    Full Member

    Rosberg had a problem that would have stopped the car (stuck in 7th); an instruction to keep the car going is allowed under the rules. The second communication which advised avoiding 7th and then telling him how to avoid 7th is more of an issue. It’s the second communication which is under investigation.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    if it’s a safety issue the only message allowed should be “strat mode 4 box box box”.

    Daffy
    Full Member

    Not if you’re about to stop the car on track…

    Klunk
    Free Member

    and yet he passed the pit lane entry another 6 or 7 times

    Rosberg: “Gearbox problem.”
    Engineer: “Driver default 1-0-1, chassis default 0-1, chassis default 0-1.”
    Engineer: “Avoid seventh gear, Nico, avoid seventh gear.”
    Rosberg: “What does that mean, I have to shift through it?”
    Engineer: “Affirm Nico, you need to shift through it. Affirm, you need to shift through it.”

    the conversation and nothing about being stuck in 7th

    Daffy
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    Klunk – Member
    and yet he passed the pit lane entry another 6 or 7 times

    After the conversation, yes. So?

    the conversation and nothing about being stuck in 7th

    You could see it on the steering wheel and the team would be able to see it from the telemetry.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    so it was never a safety issue, it was a protect 2nd place issue.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    when you thought nothing could be slower than a 4th umpire lbw referral

    3rd even 😳

    Klunk
    Free Member

    you get the feeling if it was manor or Sauber, 10 sec penalty without even so much of a second thought! 😉

    bigdaddy
    Full Member

    Ridiculous delay! I sense some strongly put arguments…

    Klunk
    Free Member

    or contemplating something more serious than a 10 sec penalty…. must be a DQ on the cards

    Daffy
    Full Member

    A car stopping on the track IS a safety issue when those coming from behind you are doing 150+mph

    bigdaddy
    Full Member

    Maybe they were watching the Wimbledon final first?

    Daffy
    Full Member

    Regardless, that photo of Lewis Hamilton crowd surfing at the British Grand Prix will go down in history as one of the best!

    hora
    Free Member

    Nico should be penalised, partly for being Britney and partly for receiving team help. Hamo! Hamo!

    thepurist
    Full Member

    10 second time penalty for Nico, max takes p2, nico drops to p3.

    http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rosberg-handed-10-second-time-penalty-drops-to-third-797642/

    eddiebaby
    Free Member

    Yay! Although I feel slightly bad for saying that.

    hora
    Free Member

    Britney robbed Max of his rightful podium celebration. Wish he’d take his sour mug and eff off. Lewis will now turn up the playful mind games on him further 😀

    thepurist
    Full Member

    Penalty was for telling him how to avoid 7th rather than telling him what setting to use. Millions per race and he needs to be told that you avoid 7th by going from 6th to 8th…

    cyclistm
    Free Member

    And he kept using 7th anyway. Not worth the penalty.

    Interestingly it sounds like telling him what engine and chassis settings he needed was allowable under the rules

    demonracer
    Full Member

    He is indeed well paid but I think the reason he asked how to avoid 7th gear is that you can’t change from 6th to 8th in an F1 car hence the car sticking in 7th which made it appear he was still using it … Alway I think they deliberately broke the rules knowing Britney would get a penalty giving Lewis an advantage in the championship (joking).

    CountZero
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    That sign that sands posted is genius! #rubbinghisnoseinit 😆

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Well I’ve just caught up it. Couldn’t catch it yesterday, there was some proper racing going on elsewhere.

    Max eh? There’s the future of F1.

    nickewen
    Free Member

    Yep – Verstappen’s overtake on Rosberg for P2 on inters was special – absolutely millimetre perfect!! I think I actually jumped off the sofa shouting “go on lad!”

    dragon
    Free Member

    My take on yesterday; tarmac run offs have helped ruined F1. The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the ‘circuit’ but returned with no penalty was ridiculous. Considering it was a damp race it was all pretty formulaic with Hamilton cruising to victory. The only decent moments of interest with the Verstappen’s overtake on Rosberg, and Vettels spin. Even Palmer missing a wheel was mostly missed by the TV.

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    It’s not so much the runoff areas, as the camera angles. They’re zoomed in from a distance so any sense of speed is lost in translation.

    F1 would be the perfect sport to experiment with camera drones.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    My take on yesterday; tarmac run offs have helped ruined F1. The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the ‘circuit’ but returned with no penalty was ridiculous.

    Definitely.

    mrhoppy
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    Yep, as much as I don’t want to see them smashing themselves up, there needs to be some reason to attempt the corner, even at the expense of a lock up/flat spotting a tyre/losing time or speed.P previously you’d stick it in the gravel and game over, or you’d e driving on cack tyres fora good while. Maybe they need mandatory drive through or something to make it worthwhile trying to make it stick.

    thepurist
    Full Member

    It’s not beyond the wit of man to come up with an automatic system that detects when they’ve exceeded circuit limits, iirc it’s already in place in some series. Next question is what to do about it – if there’s any leniency then it will be exploited by someone, so some enforced time penalty but applied immediately so the result on the track is the actual result. Maybe reducing ers deployment for the next lap, though that would be seen as another artificial tweak.

    Or just stick armco 100mm outside the white line and make every track as severe as Monaco.

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Amazing stuff from Verstappen!

    the-muffin-man
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    Halo on the Red Bull today at Silverstone – it doesn’t get any better looking with familiarity. Not the way to go IMO…

    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/07/12/pictures-2016-f1-testing-day-eleven-silverstone/

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    The screen was better than that I reckon. At least that looked like it belonged on a car.

    bigdaddy
    Full Member

    Didn’t the screen fail the safety tests though? Think that’s why the halo is the least worst option

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    I thought it just wasn’t so far along in the safety tests, rather than failing? Could have misunderstood though.

    Mikkel
    Free Member

    i saw it mentioned somewhere, possible on BBC that screen had failed the test where they fire a tyre at it.

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    AutoSport suggests that is the case, passed RBs own tests but not the FIA ones. My mistake!

    pondo
    Full Member

    The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the ‘circuit’ but returned with no penalty was ridiculous

    I don’t think they “ran it off” – the track was wet, they were on slicks and it was gusty at Abbey (which is why everyone went off there and few people went off anywhere else). No tarmac runoff at Abbey = about five finishers.

    dragon
    Free Member

    In the BBC article on Horner saying he will vote against Halo at least for 2017, and Vettel raised concerns also. Article also said the screen had failed the FIA tests and Red Bull have scrapped any further development.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Rosberg has signed a 2yr contract extension with mercedes

    the-muffin-man
    Full Member

    Rosberg has sign a contract 2yr extension with mercedes

    🙁

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