EU Referendum – are you in or out?

frankconway

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Poopscoop – To infinity and beyond…..another flight of fancy and fantasy.

Ha ha, yeah, that would be very apt.

An alternative viewpoint on frogman Farage

https://mobile.twitter.com/janeygodley/status/1222612060284112898

Pfft. I used to have about 300 friends on Facebook and now I’m down to about 150 after disowning the nationalists and racists in the last few years.

I’ve done OK. But I exercised quality control in the first place, think I have like three quislings tops on my ‘friends’ list.

Why would any respectable media outlet report the made up fantasies from The National, speaking of cringeworthy. I love them for their optimism and narrow view, but they are propaganda press.

P.s and using the troll clickbait trope “the news you won’t see reported cos they don’t want you to know” doesn’t make it true

#thefunnythingaboutpopulism
#notfunny

About the poor winners and friends thing…have noticed that my most Brexity chum has been absolutely vile since the second referendum I mean general election. As if the barely-suppressed spite was a boil on the brain awaiting release. He’s even been verbally attacking his own family and friends, not attending offspring’s birthday events etc. Nearly ruined Christmas by ranting about Pakistanis and ‘**** leftie traitors’ in the style of F*rage with gloves off. I don’t get it. Shouldn’t he be happy? Seriously worried about him but don’t even know how to approach it. He’s already made it clear (to family and friends) that he hates ‘anyone who didn’t vote for Brexit, you don’t want what’s best for this country so you should **** off out of this country’.

Goes without saying that he thinks Farage is the pinnacle of human achievement, and has even begun talking/ranting with the same cadence and emphasis. Which is weird. I worry about my friend, but also have begun to think that (since all this) – he doesn’t lately think so much about his?

It’s the first time in my lifetime that politics has affected friends and family so deeply and horribly.

Pfft. I used to have about 300 friends on Facebook and now I’m down to about 150 after disowning the nationalists and racists in the last few years.

Thing is you need a few numpties on your friends list to see what BS is being spread otherwise you end up in a bubble.

Effectively this is how they won by using targeted social media 🙁

You don’t need to call them out just report the posts as fake, nipping the propagation of BS in the bud is a good thing.

Thing is you need a few numpties on your friends list to see what BS is being spread otherwise you end up in a bubble.

Totally agree. If you don’t challenge the bollocks, they get to spout it freely. I don’t think I unfriended anyone, although quite a few unfriended me.

Just had a thought this morning.

What if Brexit turns out to be a roaring success?

Then I woke up…

Malvern Rider, it is maybe because the behaviour of those in power enables the similar behaviour in others; toxic leadership spills over to subordinates and followers and that becomes the new normal.

If your leaders are openly making comments perceived as racists, suddenly it seems ok for you to complain about brown faces everywhere because, well, Boris said it.

Why would any respectable media outlet report the made up fantasies from The National, speaking of cringeworthy. I love them for their optimism and narrow view, but they are propaganda press.

Normally I’d agree with you but did you actually read the article? Nothing particularly contentious especially the Jim Sillars content.

Just saw this afternoon’s behaviour of frog man Farage and his brexiteer entourage of utter **** wits in the EU parliament on newsnight and i can say I hope their plane home ends up in the Channel.

But then a load of innocent people will go down with them and that’s not fair……

Oh, hang on, it is more of an apt metaphor than I first thought……

I’ve spent the last few days working with colleagues from Scotland, England, Wales, Greece, Belgium, Portugal and Germany.

I’m once again reminded that we’re neighbours. We’re friends. We share the same stresses and happiness in life. We’ve joked about our differences culturally.

We’ve worked hard for full days, sharing best practice, new ideas, successes in an area of education. To the benefit of our children.

I’m still at a loss as to why so many of us think that putting barriers between ourselves and these learned and passionate friends is a Good Thing.

I’m still at a loss as to why so many of us think that putting barriers between ourselves and these learned and passionate friends is a Good Thing.

Petty jealousy and a resulting mistrust of intellect.

In the alternative reality this country has become, this happened. An Alan Patridge cheese dream where he is possessed by the restless spirit of Enoch Powell

I truly despair

Jim Davidson unveils portrait of Nigel Farage titled ‘Mr Brexit’

This is the world we officially enter tomorrow.

I’m having a news blackout this weekend. It’s going to be an embarrassing festival of small-minded, triumphalist, little England ****tishness. Farage has already started with his flag-waving bullshit. The ****!

Oh, and Brexit positives?

Well without Brexit I would have been denied a classic bit of unintentional comedy genius.

Somewhere on Facebook a gammon misspelled (naturally) the word ‘vicious’ as ‘viscous’ when having a pop at a Remainer for their ‘viscous’ remarks and then got all antsy when it was pointed out and they didn’t understand why.

You don’t often get three bits of comedy genius interspersed with lip smacking irony, even less so when the protagonist has absolutely no idea why.

Still makes me chuckle now.

Jim Davidson and Nigel Farage in one room?

Gynaecologist’s dream.

Jim Davidson unveils portrait of Nigel Farage titled ‘Mr Brexit’

Wait, that would be Jim “I’m not racist really, it was all a satirical act” Davidson, yes?

Somewhere on Facebook a gammon misspelled (naturally) the word ‘vicious’ as ‘viscous’

Thick and sticky?

Also, that painting, has he had botox in his lips?

Looks even more like Dominar Rygel XVI than the real thing does.

Yeah, Botox defo

Holy shit! You’ve finally found the brexit unicorn!!

ION, our representatives aren’t all Farages:

Love the half hidden message in the Farage pic. The fictional dick is much larger than the actual one.

Brexiteers would miss that.

Ha ha.

R4 just now, some silly cow from Sunderland saying she was so happy she could cry.

My advice would be to save her tears for when Nissan pull out.

But, they were told.

And the curtains come down on sanity, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

A fitting end.

Goodbye.

An unbelievably sad day. BBC breakfast trotting out a never ending line of brexiteers.

Something struck me. Throughout all of this, not once have I heard the Brexiteers say they understand remainers must be disappointed. Not once have I heard them say “I promise we’ll do all we can to make this work for you”.

Theres been lots of nonsense about “the country must unite” which translates as “shut up remainers and stop trying to stop this”

I understand why people voted for Brexit.i don’t agree with the reasons, but I understand that they have deep frustrations with life and society that were pinned on the EU.

There’s no humility from the Brexiteers as perfectly demonstrated by the jingoist “got Brexit done” tat that the Tories are punting on their website.

Thankfully I’m leaving the country this afternoon and I’ll be sitting in Europe proper when we formally leave tonight, sharing a drink with some European friends, and no doubt apologising profusely ☹️

Ha ha.

R4 just now, some silly cow from Sunderland saying she was so happy she could cry.

My advice would be to save her tears for when Nissan pull out.

But, they were told.

But apparently we must all pull together now as patriots, even according to the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/31/remainers-britain-eu-brexit

@bikebouy

I’m probably reading too deeply, but was it deliberate that you chose the blind Andrea Bocelli as the singer?

Even more fitting if that was the case.

Is that Farage painting a modern day ‘The Portrait of Dorian Gray’ unfolding before our eyes?

Thankfully I’m leaving the country this afternoon and I’ll be sitting in Europe proper when we formally leave tonight,

+1. Renewed my Irish passports, which expire in March, last night. Noticed my British one I have for work expired mid-last year – shan’t be wasting money on that.

I’m quite pleased that Farage gave an extra spiteful & petty speech in Brussels yesterday, it contrasted perfectly with the kind & considerate words from other MEPs

Reminds us all whats behind this

Yep I have one co-worker who has been greeting everyone who steps in the office with a slightly pushy “Happy independence day!”. He’s not had much in the way of enthusiastic responses so far…

Personally I’m not looking to get drawn into any Brexity/political discussions today, we’re sort of done with that for the time being aren’t we?

If the topic is raised I’ll be pleasant but honest, I’m not “celebrating” as Brexit is something I don’t think is good for the nation, but I accept some people are very happy about it and they are welcome to express that fact so long as they’re not going to be too oafish about it…

Something struck me. Throughout all of this, not once have I heard the Brexiteers say they understand remainers must be disappointed. Not once have I heard them say “I promise we’ll do all we can to make this work for you”.

Very good point, i think sums up why the whole brexit is so toxic…..

BoardinBob

An unbelievably sad day. BBC breakfast trotting out a never ending line of brexiteers.

Something struck me. Throughout all of this, not once have I heard the Brexiteers say they understand remainers must be disappointed. Not once have I heard them say “I promise we’ll do all we can to make this work for you”.

To be fair, while listening to Radio 4 yesterday (or might have been the day before) they were interviewing Alexandra Phillips the Green MEP & somewhat weirdly of the same name, Alexandra Philips Brexit MEP.

The Brexit MEP said several times that she realised that while many are celebrating this event, there was a need to remember that the will be an equally large number of people who will be sad, upset & disappointed by the result and did come across as very ‘humble in victory’.

The Brexit MEP said several times that she realised that while many are celebrating this event, there was a need to remember that the will be an equally large number of people who will be sad, upset & disappointed by the result and did come across as very ‘humble in victory’.

Not everyone who voted to Leave is an arsehole, but all the arseholes voted to Leave.

dudeofdoom

Thing is you need a few numpties on your friends list to see what BS is being spread otherwise you end up in a bubble.

Effectively this is how they won by using targeted social media 🙁

You don’t need to call them out just report the posts as fake, nipping the propagation of BS in the bud is a good thing.

I’d go past this….and this is why leave lost and why the Tory’s cleaned up.
Dismissing what these people are being fed and dismissing them all as racist nationalists is what pushed increasing numbers into the Brexit fold.

Most of the garbage they get fed is just twisting the truth and a narrative but unless you look carefully you’ll never see where this started or how they are dragged in and along.

One example is a friend who was saving his son from being conscripted into the EU army…
Not like that will ever happen .. but it’s part of a narrative. (Missing numbers parallel distractions probably due to kippers and bananas)

1) Say the UK lost it’s veto…. (based on stretching a 1/2 truth)
7) Quote some rampant EU nutters on EU armies and such
11) Say when these nutters get their way we can’t do anything because we lost our veto

We end up addressing #11 …. because we completely missed #1 … BUT it’s established fact in their head…

BUT it’s established fact in their head…

Which is where we start erring towards ‘gullible’ rather than ‘stupid’.

But it is not a great distinction to be trying to give people the benefit of the doubt over, is it?

I’d rather not be classified as either.

Is that Farage painting a modern day ‘The Portrait of Dorian Gray’ unfolding before our eyes?

Looks to me as though it was painted by Doña Cecilia Giménez.

Dismissing what these people are being fed and dismissing them all as racist nationalists is what pushed increasing numbers into the Brexit fold

Nah, not buying that

They were always racist nationalists. The type that bemoaned health and safety rules and claimed they couldn’t speak their mind because of “political correctness”

No one prior to the referendum was calling them racist for not being a fan of the EU.

Post victory they were emboldened. They suddenly found solidarity, the mask slipped and the facade dropped. Suddenly they were able to speak freely because they were on the willing side.

Of course not every Brexiteer is racist, but you can guarantee every racist is a Brexiteer

Of course not every Brexiteer is racist, but you can guarantee every racist is a Brexiteer

This.

If in doubt you should look at the company you keep. A point I made on about page 30 of this thread.

If you share views with renowned arseholes (Trump, Yaxley-Lennon, Farage etc) the chances are you are either actively a bad person or you are in danger of becoming one.

This current state of affairs should never be allowed to become normalised.

A man who boasts openly about sexually assaulting women is US President.

A man who openly admitted to making up derogatory stuff about the EU in a newspaper column is UK prime minister and taking us out of the EU against our best interests.

This shit is not normal.

You’ve got to love stuff like this:

Of course not every Brexiteer is racist, but you can guarantee every racist is a Brexiteer

It’s really funny. Brexiteers get accused of over over simplifying things, making rash generalisation and being a bit thick. Then with no apparent sense of irony people write stuff like above to attack Brexiteers. Bonus points for lots of use of “they”, because you’re creating in your head some sort of group that you can now attack.

Question and attack the ideas behind Brexit one conversation at a time. Calling people thick/rascist etc. will do nothing.