eBay ~ negative or neutral

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251251719313

Owned this car for 2 months, last week I got a puncture when I went to get the tyre sorted the garage said that 3 tyres are just on the legal limit and one is actually a winter tyre. When I went to pick up the car, the garage owner said that all the tyres except the winter tyre were the wrong size. The engine warning light also came on after a month although I think that’s nothing as its been running with that on.

I didn’t see the car before buying but I know eff all about cars anyway. Bit pissed off the chap clearly lied about the tyres but I don’t like dishing out negs if I can avoid it.

Give it a negative because you bought the car in good faith trusting the seller but the seller pulled a quick one on you. Yes, he might counter whatever arguments you put forward but deep down he knew you were an easy target. He knew that once he sold the car to you it became your problem and that you would be hard pressed to justify the problems back to him since you knew nothing about car, so now you give the problem back to him. A negative. Let him justify. He can huff and puff but make sure you wind it up many notches … so let him explode.

all the tyres are under 50% worn.

Is that not written top be deliberately misleading ie you read as 50% + left but it is written as they are under the 50 % worn mark which they are

Your call tbh

I’d be pissed if they advertised as tyres under 50% worn and they weren’t…

I’d also be more concerned about the mismatched and wrong size bit, have
you checked the sizes?

But then I’d also never buy a car unseen off ebay, and if I knew nothing about cars (not even enough to check for tyre condition and matching sizes) I’d take someone with me who did when I went to pick it up.

That’s not meant as a dig BTW, more of a reminder to learn from this experience whatever happens as there will always be unscrupulous types out there and if you’re not knowledgeable about what you’re buying then you need to protect yourself however you can, either by educating yourself, enlisting the help of others or by paying the premium of buying from a (hopefully reputable) dealer so you have some comeback.

have you contacted the seller about it?

Tell him what you found and you’re not happy. Let him offer recompense. Depending on his response, then leave feedback.

I would have done a bit of ‘tyrekicking’ before completing the sale though. If the police had stopped you, it’d be you that had got done. It’s the driver’s responsibility to check the road worthiness of the vehicle. I wouldn’t have driven for 2 months without checking the tyres. I check weekly, especially with the poor state of the roads these days.

For any given wheel size there are a fairly large range of tyre sizes that are appropriate.

Make sure you know what you are talking about before you accuse him of selling you a car with tyres that are the “wrong size” as they could be perfectly fine.

Having said that, mismatched tyre sizes on the same axle is an MOT failure. So I wouldn’t be too happy about that to be honest.

I would normally do a bit of tyre kicking but I needed a car and bid without really expecting to win. No chance of any come back the chap was like some car salesman off east enders. I trust the garage who changed the tyres.

What JY said. Looks like the seller didn’t lie, he deliberately misled. “20%” is under “50%”. Either that or the garage is telling porkies.

The engine warning light also came on after a month although I think that’s nothing as its been running with that on.

I’d be way more worried about that if I were you.

I trust the garage who changed the tyres.

I’m sure you do, but that doesn’t mean they were the “wrong size” for the wheels fitted.

It could just mean that they are not what their tyre chart says that the manufacturer fitted as standard.

you paid £655 for a car unseen from a seller called bangkok-spice….

wtf did you expect?

Five dollar?

Being as you get 60 days to leave feedback in, and today is the 60 day since the auction finished, you better do it quick; but would take it as particularly vindictive of a buyer to leave a neg with no contact, and at the very last minute.

For the tires, really you should have checked that when you picked it up, also, it’s been 2 months, you haven’t given any indication of how much driving you do, 5 or 500 miles a day?

To me, are under 50% worn means they have more than half the usable tread remaining/less than 50% worn away. Over 50% worn would be nearly at the limit.

for example a 205 60 16 tyre will have the same diameter as a 225 55 16 tyre – no issues there.

he’s been driving it 2 months. unbalanced or shit tracking could have worn them out,.

suck it up and move on.

Or worn bushes, or any other suspension related issue.
Or too much dry steering.

Aye, 2 months, seriously suck it up.

You could afford to buy one every 2 months at that price given what a lease on a new focus would cost you.

I’m with jam bo.
£655 for a car on the bay? You’re lucky it had tyres!

You could afford to buy one every 2 months at that price given what a lease on a new focus would cost you.

You think he was in the market for a lease deal on a brand new focus but thought

“Actually….. no I won’t do that, I’ll buy one for £655 on eBay instead”

🙄

To me, are under 50% worn means they have more than half the usable tread remaining/less than 50% worn away. Over 50% worn would be nearly at the limit.

Sure, and to me. Point is, it’s vague enough that they’d probably get away with it.

Glupton – what is ‘dry steering’?

The engine warning light also came on after a month although I think that’s nothing as its been running with that on.

I’d be way more worried about that if I were you.

+1 get the light looked at before shelling out on tyres. Could be wasting your money if there’s a big bill waiting.

Glupton – what is ‘dry steering’?

Turning the steering wheel when the vehicle isn’t moving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_steering

LOL is a £600 car…. most people here spend that on a new frame for their bike….

As above, if you spend that and get 6 months out of it you’ve done OK.

Whilst we’re all here – I just bought something for £31 and they wanted £15 postage, refusing to allow me to collect which I could have done, thereby increasing the total cost almost 50%.

I’m tempted to leave netural feedback as I think this is unreasonable.

Did it specify it was delivery only ?

Didn’t check. But how hard can it be to meet someone for collection?

There is no way that should even be able to leave negative feedback after 2 months! You’ve taken a punt on a sub £1000 banger and really should not do that unless a) you know about cars or b)are really lucky.
How can you prove that these are the tyres that came on the car?
As said before suck it up and in future stick the new or approved used cars. If that is out of your budget then get an AA check before bidding.
How many miles have you done in 2 months is the question that still needs answering.

Didn’t check.

fail.

Buying a car blind off ebay?

ha ha!

Whilst we’re all here – I just bought something for £31 and they wanted £15 postage, refusing to allow me to collect which I could have done, thereby increasing the total cost almost 50%.

I’m tempted to leave netural feedback as I think this is unreasonable.

That’s not a neutral feedback issue unless he/she specifically stated collection was possible. Might be an old lady who doesn’t like strangers turning up at her door for instance. You bid for the auction with the postage – the fact you might have lived next door to them really doesn’t matter.

^^^^ As above – buyer beware … 8)

You`ve admitted knowing f-all about cars so why not have an independent opinion from someone who does, even a mate who has a little more idea than you ??

2 months is 2,000 miles to some people – I doubt ebay would side with you if he raised a dispute and for the record neither would I .

YOU bought the car, deal with any issues on YOUR car and move on .

(I now know why I hate selling on ebay – due to posts like this ….)

the fact you might have lived next door to them really doesn’t matter

Yeah.. still unreasonable though!

LOL is a £600 car…. most people here spend that on a new frame for their bike….

More than that on brakes for the bike! But I’ve had three cars for less than that (total, not each!)
Anyway, as above investigate the light before worrying about the tyres

Yeah.. still unreasonable though!

It’s not though is it ?

Why should I let a buyer dictate to me how they get the item they bought.

I decide what’s going to happen, and I put it in the listing. (If you don’t like it, don’t bother bidding)

What is unreasonable though, is when the buyer doesn’t bother reading the listing properly, and then moans about it later 🙄