So, & stop me if I’m wrong, but ninny’s support of Trump is down to the fact that it winds up folks he doesn’t like? Somehow gaining satisfaction from somewhere along the way………..
Pretty much the definition of a troll
How terribly fing tragic, he must be an individual full of nothing but bile & hate to gain pleasure from the actions of a deliberately antagonistic & devise narcissist such as Trump.
Pretty much describing the kind of person who becomes a troll. Pitiful, really.
EDIT but on reflection, maybe not full of bile and hate just sad, lonely and desperate for some attention to make up for what’s missing in real life
Sorry @ninfan I didn’t realise that you’d already answered.
So you’re trying to get people’s inner nastiness to reveal itself? ie – trolling?
The second comment I agree was more of a musing about your personal opinions/personality, but the first was a direct question, that should just require either a yes answer, or a no answer.
So for that you’re more than happy to turn a blind eye to his racism, short sighted policies, climate change denail, sexism, & his general **** everyone else that is Donald Trump attitide?
My word of the day is ‘quockerwodger’: a 19th century wooden toy puppet whose limbs jerk about at the whim of the puppet master. It soon became used for a politician whose strings are pulled entirely by someone else.
the first was a direct question, that should just require either a yes answer, or a no answer.
I think it shows your inability to conceptualise an alternative narrative from the one you’ve been fed. to take your points in order:
racism
Objecting to and fighting ILLEGAL immigration, defending your countries borders and being selective about who you let into your country isn’t racist.
let alone whats happening to Black and Hispanic unemployment levels under Trump. As for your fantasy ‘muslim majority countries ‘ immigration ban – the countries involved have less than 12% of the worlds muslims, and the list never included the most populous muslim majority countries in the first place.
short sighted policies
According to many a few months ago Trumps actions on North Korea were short sighted, and bound to drag us into conflict – instead they have led to a cease in nuclear testing and the beginnings of an entente cordiale and peace process in a conflict thats been rumbling on for nearly seventy years. Nothin happens overnight but recent developments were unimaginable 18 months ago.
climate change denail,
Remember when the Paris accord was a total waste of time, not enough, completely ineffective… until Trump threatened to pull out of it, when it was suddenly the only thing saving us from imminent disaster? hey, climate change is the least of your worries if you believe we’re all gong to get Nuked anyway, right?
On the wider question, being skeptical of computer modelling that has got everything wrong so far isn’t a bad thing, and there is a strong chain of thought that concentrating resources on developing and strengthening resilience is a better solution than investing in fractional cuts in emissions in the first world while they continue to climb in second and third world nations.
sexism
You might want to look at where the real sexism lies – instead of getting upset a joke about grabbing girls by the pussy and accusations of consensual dalliances with porn stars, why not concentrate your shock at whats come out about Harvey Weinstein and friends who were forcing women to have sex in order to be in movies?? (and lets not forget Bill Clinton’s little dalliances either, how worked up were you about that (or Hillary trying to make it all go away?)
& his general **** everyone else
It seems you’re actually more upset about him saying **** those who didn’t vote for him. Given the way many of them have acted over the last year I don’t think you can blame him.
PS – massive LOLZ at the reporters all piling on to point fingers at Trump about Finland not being a NATO member after he commented about the Finnish President being there.
Trump told the Finnish President Just now he enjoyed spending time with him at the NATO summit. Finland is not part of NATO. #awkward@jaketapper@camanpour
Objecting to and fighting ILLEGAL immigration, defending your countries borders and being selective about who you let into your country isn’t racist.
No – so is the following not a racist statement?
“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes…. Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else… Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”
Much more here – https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
On the wider question, being skeptical of computer modelling that has got everything wrong so far isn’t a bad thing, and there is a strong chain of thought that concentrating resources on developing and strengthening resilience is a better solution than investing in fractional cuts in emissions in the first world while they continue to climb in second and third world nations.
Yes – that’s a good point regarding resilience, but… it wasn’t what I asked. He’s not exactly doing anything, regarding cuts or resilience. So… the original question remains.
And I think I know where the real sexism lies in fact here is a list.
Again, you’re avoiding the question, I wasn’t asking about the Canadian PM, Harvey or anyone else. We can discuss them in their own threads along with the merits – this thread is about Donald Trump.
I’ve noticed that you tend to avoid answering questions and criticisms that don’t fit in with your own ‘alternative narrative’. When you’re not hurriedly backtracking on previous posts and editing them to make them fit with whatever little tricks and tropes that are occurring to you from second to second, that is.
I quite see why you suffer from ‘Bully Worship’ of the giant vomiting orange nightmare.
You’re very similar personalities, suffering (I would guess) from much the same personality problems.
How frustrating it must be for you that your own tendency to bully doesn’t gain any traction around here. ..
So still no hint of a motive for the Putin love other than in the pocket or in awe/ego problems about not winning all on his own?
Heard some well established journalists being amazed by how he went about his answers, the lack of coherent thought and inability to deal with any of the issues.
There was a simple answer to the questions about the charges against the Russians but he decided not to go there.
It certainly won’t help if Muller has enough to need a vote on it.
wont dare say it to Putins face, but only once hes safely back in the whitehouse he claims he misspoke
To be clear, Trump still seemed to waffle in his acceptance of U.S. intelligence: "I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also. A lot of people out there." (via ABC) pic.twitter.com/Gp4hzEbZBc
So Trump is rapidly back tracking on what he said to Putin, no surprises there I suppose, but…… whats worse? Lying to Putin, to the people of the USA? Or is it part of the script Putin gave him? Whatever! Just how long can this fool carry on? Surely there is a limit on bare faced lies? When are the good folk of the USA ( an there are some) going to stand as one and say no more?
It really does look like Diane Abbott levels of ineptitude (now there’s a dream ticket). I’ve actually got to the stage where I’m almost finding it funny*. It’s like a cross between Yes Minister and a Carry On film. Do you think he’ll say he mis-spoke when taking the Oath, if he needs to?
Maybe that’s where some of the more articulate/intelligent Trump supporters have been at all along. They’ve been thinking “the guy’s pure parody – I can’t believe no-one else gets it”. Hence mocking – or being contrary with – everyone who’s late to the party.
Yeah, it’s a shame about the whole **** the planet bit, but he’s only got another 6 years in office, tops, and based on what he’s achieved so far, how many changes will he get through in that time? Of course he may not get re-elected (but you know, I fear he might) and more to the point he could try to change the system so presidents aren’t limited to 2 terms – but I have a weird faith that even GOP law makers might see the folly in that.
On the up-side, it turns out he never had bone-spurs at all…. his doctor mis-spoke.
*…or very,very scary. There’s this weird, untested equilibrium: on one side there’s DT’s ability to appear monumentally inept and un-voteable-for, and on the other side there’s the unswerving devotion of the American right.
and on the other side there’s the unswerving devotion of the American right.
The important change is being able to stuff the supreme court full of hard right ideologues. Choose some youngish people and the court will be an ideological haven for years to come.
How long was Trump in his private meeting with Putin ?
Putin sort of always has a notebook and writes stuff down as he’s a bit switched on and always very helpful offering to send some of his people to help with the investigation 🙂
Between trump and putin I think i’d rather have a beer with Putin as he’s probably the more interesting.
The issue I have with Trump is that his actions are not only undoing all the diplomacy done by Obama and Bush to control/stabilise certain issues is being undone to such an extent that it is leaving a vacuum in some very dangerous places that the likes of Russia and North Korea are filling. Getting them back out to the previous point is going to be very difficult and take a very long time. He is genuinely a danger to America and the rest of the world. US politics is going to take a very long time to undo the damage he is doing, partly due to the way their processes are set up and partly because the voting public as a whole may keep him in for a second term. I’m not going to get into whether it’s right or wrong for the US, that’s their decision to make, but it is creating a very unbalanced political narrative in the rest of the world.
The next person who follows him as president is going to have a very, very tough job to do. The trouble is that will put off a lot of the best candidates as it will be seen as a poisoned chalice meaning the clever candidates will wait a term for someone else to take the flak then come in afterwards. Sadly Trump’s influence and legacy is going to be felt for the next decade at a minimum, that’s the scary bit for me.
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For sincerity though, make eye contact, sound like you mean it even if you don’t and try not to look like your reading from a prepared statement….