Ding doing: The toff's career is dead

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-30139832

Why do so many in the Labour movement find working people so frightfully dreadful ?

Displays of flags on houses always reminds me of Belfast in the troubles

Unless football is on I always think the flag means racist live here

Its a shame and one day you [ the english] make regain ownership of the flag from the racist but it has not happened yet.

cranberry is this your house?

Why do so many in the Labour movement find working people so frightfully dreadful ?

Do you know what ‘labour movement’ means ? No it doesn’t mean the Labour Party.

Ding doing: The toff bitch’s career is dead

Well that’s an unpleasant thread title.

I’ve always seen the Union flag as the racist one. The ingerlund one is more cringing JJB football bulbend. I dread hearing that van coming up behind me on a narrow road.

Unless football is on I always think the flag means racist live here

Now that`s just prejudice 🙄

cranberry – Member

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-30139832

Why do so many in the Labour movement find working people so frightfully dreadful ?

Yes, another Labour politician bites the dust … dun dun dun … dun-du-du – du dooo … another one … another bite the dust (the song by Queen something like that). 😆

Now let’s see if more will follow …

Oh I forgot new legislation and rules please … now duplicate and triplicate all the paper works then triple the size of public sector and make sure everyone works in the public sector. Ya … now everyone is a manager …

😆

Well that’s an unpleasant thread title.

Agreed. What the hell does ding doing even mean?

Its pre judging based on limited information. FWIW you need to persuade me the flag is generally not seen/has not been mainly used by racists.

As i said I hope it gets reclaimed but it has not yet.

See also swastika.

The Chelsea scalf in Kimbers’ picture ruins the look the house owner was going for – really over did it with that.
RM.

Unless football is on I always think the flag means racist live here

True enough IME. Funnily enough I was looking at Google street view the other day where I grew up (not a great place) and there were loads of flags flying. But I guess Oldham is not quite as cosmopolitan as it could be. Our previous local landlord used to fly the flag proudly outside his pub and he was a blatant racist too. Quite embarrassing actually and most people were relieved when he moved on.

Well that’s an unpleasant thread title.

And factually incorrect, she’s only resigned from the shadow cabinet. She remains an MP and a qualified barrister. Her career is far from dead.

weirdly misogynistic thread title

she is however useless New Labour. Islington South should have gone Lib Dem two elections ago but so single the local yellows messed it up

Junkyard – lazarus

Really is it?You will be telling me that is sarcasm next
FWIW you need to persuade me the flag is generally not seen/has not been mainly used by racists.

As i said I hope it gets reclaimed but it has not yet.

See also swastika.

Ok let me get this right … if that flag symbolizes racism or a racist flag then does that mean all English people are racist? Yes? 😯

Should we not have another flag apart from that? Yes?

Edit: where I come from those who fly the national flag are predominantly illegal immigrants in their second/third generation on the pretext of being a nationalist but waiting to annex Borneo. The local don’t give a shite about being nationalistic cos it is shite. So when we see a car that has national flag we immediately know they are illegal immigrants … and the descendant of pirates and those that kidnap and cut off your head type.

if that flag symbolizes racism or a racist flag then does that mean all English people are racist? Yes?

No. This means you cannot think

Junkyard – lazarus

if that flag symbolizes racism or a racist flag then does that mean all English people are racist? Yes?

No. This means you cannot think

Or you cannot differentiate … 🙄

According to the Beeb

The 54-year-old entered Parliament as MP for Islington South and Finsbury in 2005 The daughter of a former assistant secretary general of the United Nations, she was born in Surrey and was called to the bar in 1983.

Did she join the Labour Party by mistake?

nickc – Member

Did she join the Labour Party by mistake?

I doubt it but rather it is a career to rule over commoners … yes, you lot are common and all politicians regardless of affiliation will think of you as dirt on their shoes. 🙄

People of a certain age shouldn’t play with twitter and things they don’t understand. They will get burnt!

Clearly it is impolite to sneer at other people because they inhabit a different strata of society to you…

Ok let me get this right … if that flag symbolizes racism or a racist flag then does that mean all English people are racist?

No only those who insist on hanging the flag outside their house for no apparent reason are more than likely to be racist. It’s not the flag itself that symbolises racism.

where I come from those who fly the national flag are predominantly illegal immigrants in their second/third generation on the pretext of being a nationalist but waiting to annex Borneo.

Well, you learn something new every day.

So when we see a car that has national flag we immediately know they are illegal immigrants … and the descendant of pirates and those that kidnap and cut off your head type.

You’ve lost me now, obviously talking about some other planet.

No only those who insist on hanging the flag outside their house for no apparent reason are more than likely to be racist. It’s not the flag itself that symbolises racism.

In a strange twist is that itself not a little stereotypical and therefore a bit racist ( or at least xenophobic )

In a strange twist is that itself not a little stereotypical and therefore a bit racist ( or at least xenophobic )

Like those who automatically assume that a beer gut, a swastika, and a nazi salute, means racist.

Take this geezer for example, unless you had a chat with him there is absolutely no way that you could assume he was more likely racist.

Agreed. What the hell does ding doing even mean?

moshimonster – Member

No only those who insist on hanging the flag outside their house for no apparent reason are more than likely to be racist. It’s not the flag itself that symbolises racism.

It is the labeling that is scary I mean whenever the flag is flown it is associated with racism and worst case scenario if you are of lower caste 😆 i.e. working class, you are instantly labeled as racist if you are seen with a flag. In a way, nationalism can be considered as a form of racism? Yes?

Well, you learn something new every day.

Yes. It is real due to the geographical proximity with one of the southern region of another country and the mass exodus that came over. They want to create an Muslamic region … many are in the second and third generations and have infiltrated many important govt positions. However, they still affiliate themselves with their home region and trying to create a new state/govt.

You’ve lost me now, obviously talking about some other planet.

They are the descendants of people who rule the sea, i.e. pirates, then they evolved into religious extremist and one of their punishment is to decapitate their enemies … 😯

ernie_lynch – Member
Take this geezer for example, unless you had a chat with him there is absolutely no way that you could assume he was more likely racist.

The problem is why do people let them take over/hijack the flag? Why not take the flag back and let them create one of their own? Even nazi created their own symbol so why can’t they create their own “brand”?

😯

I’m an involuntary racist, I just don’t seem to have a competative nature 🙁

Seriously? Every bloody year they show The Wizard of Oz and you’ve managed to avoid it. EVERY BLOODY YEAR??

Did she join the Labour Party by mistake?

IIRC her dad was the lawyer and UN person but her mum was a teacher and the one who raised her. she went to a not particularly flashy university and then practiced human rights law in the 80s (ie working for mostly indigent clients on scale fees when law and human rights law in particular was not as astronomically well paid as some parts of the legal profession were later).

in other words, I don’t think that anyone would say she’s had a similar trajectory to John Prescott but I think “toff” might be overstating it. I mean, ffs, she’s not even landed, let alone titled.

“Mr Ware, 36, who works in the motor trade and property maintenance, told the Telegraph the flags been on his house since the World Cup.

He said that he had voted Conservative at the 2010 election, and had no idea there was a by-election in Rochester and Strood that evening”[/b]

So daft that even UKIP can’t rely on his vote.

Junkyard – lazarus

Unless football is on I always think the flag means racist live here

Its a shame and one day you [ the english] make regain ownership of the flag from the racist but it has not happened yet.

So the [English] flag is racist but your [Union] flag is not?
Your opinion speaks volumes more about your small mindedness than it does about those you show prejudice against.

This comes from someone who holds many more flags in their “arsenal” than you probably do.

What I find strange is how many other cultures have used that symbol the nazis created despite the negative connotations. Didn’t it bother these Byzantines?

sbob – Member
So the [English] flag is racist but your [Union] flag is not?

😆 you lot are very funny ….

aracer – Member

chewkw » Even nazi created their own symbol so why can’t they create their own “brand”?

What I find strange is how many other cultures have used that symbol the nazis created despite the negative connotations. Didn’t it bother these Byzantines?

Ya, all of them nicked it from others and even the Byzanties nicked it from far east. 🙄

Mr Ware also said :

“I will continue to fly the flags. I know there is a lot of ethnic minorities that don’t like it”[/b]

I have no idea how he knows that “there is a lot of ethnic minorities that don’t like it”, I suspect he hasn’t been going around asking them. Perhaps it’s something he’s read somewhere.

I can’t see what’s wrong with her photo. She’s just posted a pic and said Rochester. Surely it’s other people’s perception of what she meant that has caused the issue?

I don’t see it as racist, or common, just a bit chavvy.

Others see it differently.

Now wonder newspaper Journalists drink themselves to an early grave. Hamming everything up must take its toll.

Plus. Funny is the Whelan is anti-semetic. What? Should the manager sending joke/bad taste texts never ever have a job again then? Now Whelan is suddenly anti-Jewish for giving him a chance? Why didn’t they call Whelan homophobic? I wonder if that’d prompt a liable case and a step too far?…

Flags should be on Flag poles, it’s hanging them out of windows that makes the home owner look like a cretin.

“I will continue to fly the flags. I know there is a lot of ethnic minorities that don’t like it”

Its brilliant all this, labour minister sacked for making an unsaid point with a simple photo and given the line above, it seems like her point had a point but no one in politics can talk about the point so UKip win another seat. You couldnt make it up.

Now Whelan is suddenly anti-Jewish for giving him a chance?

Well no, he’s being accused of being anti-semitic for saying jews are “more money chasing than everybody else” – I think it’s easy see how that might be a bit close to the mark for anyone familiar with centuries of anti-semitic rhetoric.