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  • Apple profits. beeeejeeesus!!!
  • wrightyson
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    I appreciated previously they were a very wealthy company but according to beeb news just, apple now have enough wealth to give everyone in the world 20$ plus have enough left over to buy morrisons sainsburys and m and s.
    Do they give much to charities? Will we be seeing apple logos springing up on the Greek flag? They could certainly change a few lives that’s for sure!

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    I know, it’s a little grating to me that I have spent a lot on their stuff recently and yet they do make great things.
    But blimey, that statistic Stef spouted earlier made me think, what Could you do with all that money ? and just what Should you do with it ?

    And, and yet they do spend a huge amount on R&D, so eh ? where will they go now ?

    Bit mad TBH.

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    You imply an interesting point. They should buy Greece, turn it into AppleLand. Everyone would have a job, iPad and phone at least.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Insane isn’t it?

    And their share prices are DOWN because they’re not doing well enough?!?

    richmars
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    I guess it shows the profit they make on stuff.
    Clearly a case of charging what people are prepared to pay for it (in common with many companies).
    The iphone is good, but it’s not 5 times as good as, say, a £100 Android phone.

    drlex
    Free Member

    Yet despite the figures being in line with Apple’s guidance (prediction), the shares dropped 10% in after hours trading, as beeeellllions weren’t as high as the Wall Street analysts expected.
    No doubt they’ll fall again when the self-driving, electric Apple car fails to appear by Christmas.

    rickmeister
    Full Member

    Appleland, quite like that.

    Could paint it white and call it iGreece, at least it would stem the tears of the Germans.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    The iphone is good, but it’s not 5 times as good as, say, a £100 Android phone.

    The same could be said about bikes or pretty much anything though couldn’t it? The law of diminishing returns.

    DT78
    Free Member

    The stores always seem to be packed with hundreds of people just milling about and hanging out not doing much, quite a good fit then with iGreece.

    djambo
    Free Member

    just what Should you do with it ?

    pay some taxes (most of it is sashed outside the US) then return some to shareholders perhaps?

    br
    Free Member

    But blimey, that statistic Stef spouted earlier made me think, what Could you do with all that money ? and just what Should you do with it ?

    Stef might be interested in you 😉

    richmars
    Full Member

    The same could be said about bikes or pretty much anything though couldn’t it? The law of diminishing returns.

    Exactly my point. People don’t mind paying more then they have to. That’s how it is now. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but clearly you can make a lot of money because of it.

    FuzzyWuzzy
    Full Member

    The share price fell as they warned next quarter profits would be down (likely Watch sales have dropped off significantly after the initial buzz). Sounds like they know iPhone 6s isn’t going to be more than a minor evolution either so won’t have as big a surge in demand as previous releases. They’ll still sell loads and make profits that most other global companies dream about.

    theocb
    Free Member

    The same could be said about bikes or pretty much anything though couldn’t it? The law of diminishing returns.

    but there aren’t many bike companies making 18 billion in a quarter

    When is a profit too much.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    When is a profit too much.

    When it’s being earned by someone else, seemingly.

    onandon
    Free Member

    Microsoft were in this position 20 years ago. If you look at their recent financial figures it doesn’t look so rosy now.
    Apple are a premium brand that’s gone mainstream and seen as a fashion item or object of desire – fair play to them for doing so well in hard times.

    Note, I’m not a hipster or Apple fanboy.

    BigDummy
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    What’s (to me) really striking is that a tech company with such vast reserves of cash and so much brain power at its disposal doesn’t appear to have any vision whatsoever.

    Elon Musk is off to colonise Mars and revolutionise electric power. Google are busily abolishing cars as we know them and creating AI that will know your thoughts before you do. Apple seem content to design new shiny rectangles and annihilate Spotify.

    🙂

    Drac
    Full Member

    . Apple seem content to design new shiny rectangles and annihilate Spotify.

    And designing cars.

    jools182
    Free Member

    iGreece

    BigDummy
    Free Member

    Ah! Didn’t know that. Shall have a look.

    🙂

    EDIT: speculation seems to be rife

    Matt24k
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    The fall in share price is more to do with what is likely to happen in the near future but mainly because Apple is sitting on a pile of cash that it indicated it may return to share holders. It appears that it will not return some of this cash to share holders as it will have to pay tax when it repatriates the money.
    I dislike the fact that Apple has decided to build a cash mountain that is so big that it doesn’t know what to do with it. More concerning is the lack of tax paid. Maybe they are expecting the bubble to burst sometime soon?
    The Watch may be the straw that breaks the camels back as people begin to realise that you don’t need a time piece that doesn’t run for a day without charging.

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    I bought a Samsung mobile. Sticking it to the man…

    Drac
    Full Member

    Ah! Didn’t know that. Shall have a look.

    Because Apple unlike Google don’t talk about their future projects.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Free Member

    The iphone is good, but it’s not 5 times as good as, say, a £100 Android phone.

    Actually, if you tried to build an iPhone, it would cost you a lot more than the RRP. It’s the scale of the market (the choice is largely any android phone out of 10’s/100’s, or an iPhone 6) that makes it possible, both in terms of being able to buy in bulk (or commission new chips entirely) and sell to a huge market at smaller profit margins.

    mrblobby
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    Microsoft were in this position 20 years ago. If you look at their recent financial figures it doesn’t look so rosy now.

    These things are cyclical. Look at where Apple was 20 years ago when Microsoft dominated.

    That cash mountain is a bit obscene though. Surprised that hoarding that much cash is not causing some sort of economic issue.

    GrahamS
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    The iphone is good, but it’s not 5 times as good as, say, a £100 Android phone.

    True, but a £500 Android phone isn’t 5 times better than a £100 Android phone either.

    The stores always seem to be packed with hundreds of people just milling about and hanging out not doing much

    Presumably you observed this while in the store, milling about? 😀

    I often pop into them when I’m passing just to gaze at the shinys. I don’t buy anything though, as everything except the key products is available much cheaper elsewhere.

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    iGreece..!

    Genius (or Apple iGenius)

    They could have Siri blasting from minarets telling them all what to do and where to go. They might get some work done then.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Drac
    Full Member

    Genius (or Apple iGenius)

    It’s just Genius. 😉

    nickjb
    Free Member

    iGreek flag?

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    iKow 😆

    footflaps
    Full Member

    They could have Siri blasting from minarets telling them all what to do and where to go. They might get some work done then.

    “Collect your free cash from German tax payers over there.”

    😉

    wrightyson
    Free Member

    I like that apple Greece flag. Looks the part!

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    How much tax are they paying on these profits? In which countries?

    Another corporate giant working the system

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    big_n_daft – Member
    How much tax are they paying on these profits? In which countries?

    Another corporate giant allowed to work the system

    FIFY

    uponthedowns
    Free Member

    Its amazing they have generated so much cash and yet they make nothing that’s mission critical to running a modern economy. If Apple and their products disappeared overnight the world would continue much as normal- same goes for Facebook. Now if Microsoft or Oracle or SAP disappeared large parts of transport, banking and manufacturing and retail would stop functioning.

    I’m convinced Apple is a bubble waiting to burst.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    yet they make nothing that’s mission critical to running a modern economy

    An interesting measure of value. 😕

    How many of the World’s Biggest Companies fall into the same “nothing that’s mission critical” bucket?

    Toyota, Volkswagen, Wal-Mart, Samsung, Nestle…

    tyrionl1
    Free Member

    I think that mission critical thing might be about to change with Apple Pay..

    As to their profits, can’t say I’m unhappy about it, I’ve been a sucker for everything Apple since the day they hitched a Mac Classic up to an electronic typesetter, battled the PC World all through the Gil Amelio years watched as Silicon Glen gave them all the ideas prior to that. Anyone remember Apricot?

    simon_g
    Full Member

    Its amazing they have generated so much cash and yet they make nothing that’s mission critical to running a modern economy. If Apple and their products disappeared overnight the world would continue much as normal- same goes for Facebook. Now if Microsoft or Oracle or SAP disappeared large parts of transport, banking and manufacturing and retail would stop functioning.

    I’m convinced Apple is a bubble waiting to burst.

    Hahahahahaha, nothing at all? There are millions of Apple devices doing important “mission critical” things across all of those sectors. Microsoft and Oracle and SAP do the important back-end stuff but no-one is getting devices (and intuitive apps that use that back-end stuff) into the hands of workers like Apple is.

    This went up the other day, there are countless more – http://www.apple.com/business/network-rail/

    dragon
    Free Member

    I’m amazed that Apple get to take the p*ss with their cash mountain so much, it should be returned to shareholders or put to better use.

    Apple to some extent are in quite an exposed position as they have very little diversification, if the iphone started tank they”d be in all kinds of problems. ipad sales are down, iwatch not looking like is is taking off, Mac sales okay but the bulk of their profit is iphone sales and the only major growth market is China.

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