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  • molgrips
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    Wales v England was hare and tortoise. The tortoise wins, but the hare is still a faster runner. The hare just makes mistakes.

    It's not being bitter, it's match analysis. I'm not saying Wales deserved to win or should have won – they made too many mistakes. I'm just saying that England aren't as good of a side as they think they are 🙂

    Taz
    Full Member

    I'm just saying that England aren't as good of a side as they think they are

    A phrase that pretty much cuts across all sports and all timeframes 😆

    duckman
    Full Member

    How has Jackson done for Scotland "A" ? I know they got hammered, but he must be better than Parks.

    backhander
    Free Member

    I quite liked the anniversary shirt so I looked for one.

    http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=england+rugby+shirt+centenary+&_cqr=true&_nkwusc=england+rugby+shirt+centenery&_rdc=1

    😯 😮

    Profiteering at its finest.

    Taz, england have still won more international titles at more sports than any other home nation by quite a margin. 😆

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Backhander – you have never won the Elephant polo world cup have you?

    backhander
    Free Member

    TJ, that's pretty cool BUT;
    http://www.elephantpolo.com/pressrelease/2008/index.php
    it would seem they have!

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    Hines is out, good news for the welsh lineout

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Bugger. At least we have Jim Hamilton coming in who is a class act in his own right – but just back from injury.

    Hines is one of Scotlands few real quality players.

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    Scotland could have the Time Bandits in the 2nd row and still beat the Welsh lineout, based on last weekend.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    The talk on other sites is that Borthwick worked out the welsh calls, interview with john Thomas on beeb site where he mentions

    tiggs121
    Free Member

    Hines is a class player but was poor last week. Hamilton is bigger but nowhere near as tough.

    Could be close if the Welsh make as many errors as last week but they won't……………………..will they??

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    Now if Patterson gets an ingrowing toenail and we can convert Euan Murray to Judaism so he changes the day he won't play on – I think we are in with a shout.

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    We also need Paul Thorburn back for those longer distances…….

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I am looking forward to the clash in the centres. You should be able to hear it for miles. 3 big meatheads and one ugly fecker. It won't be pretty

    tiggs121
    Free Member

    Can't believe some of you Welsh guys are so pessimistic. What did you see in the Scotland team that makes you think we can win in Cardiff?

    As I see it Wales lost to England mainly because of AWJ's complete stupidity (was it 17 pts in 10 mins) and a poor lineout. Even then without the late interception try Wales could possibly have stolen a result.

    Scotland had to defend particularly well just to keep the score respectable and didn't really look like scoring tries.

    As I said earlier – if Mossy kicks 10 penalties then we have a chance – if he doesn't then I fear we will once again be forced to defend for long periods.

    Wales by 15 points.

    TandemJeremy
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    Scotland made more line breaks, beat more defenders and made more ground with the ball in hand against a very good french team than either england or wales did in their game

    I doubt wales will be that poor again but Scotland played the team that looks by far the best in the 6N and didn't do too bad.

    The stats on scrum.com make for interesting reading and scotland came close to a couple of trys

    tiggs121
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    I agree TJ – we made a few breaks but without a real open side wing forward to support them. Our back row are big and robust but not the best support runners.

    If all the stats stack up then we should win but as you know no 2 games are the same and I just feel the Welsh will improve and they are playing at home which is a huge advantage in this competition.

    Pigface
    Free Member

    Tiggs its because of what happened against the saes, Who could have seen Wales make so many stupid mistakes, but we did. We are our own worst enemies.

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I think you are right Tiggs – I don't see the Welsh being so poor again but they certainly have to improve to match Scotland on the showing of the first round of matches.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    Can't believe some of you Welsh guys are so pessimistic. What did you see in the Scotland team that makes you think we can win in Cardiff?

    a working lineout

    Taz
    Full Member

    Getting pretty excited now.

    I think both of Saturday's games could be crackers. Hope we get some have a go, heads up rugby for a change!

    Scotland will miss Hines but not really at the line out. Around the park he is a notch above Hamilton but not at the set piece IMO.

    I am concrened at the break down. Wales (Williams) are awesome there. Think we could see a few turn overs!

    ChunkyMTB
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    anagallis_arvensis – Member
    The talk on other sites is that Borthwick worked out the welsh calls, interview with john Thomas on beeb site where he mentions

    lol

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    a_a, you could have warned us! The horror when I saw his face peering out of my 'puter!

    The Scottish management have requested that the stadium roof stay open whatever the weather tomorrow. Fortunately the forecast is for relatively good weather.

    That doesn't sound like a confident team, when they hope for bad weather to level the teams!

    Taz
    Full Member

    Interesting he backs Wales & France. I hope he is wrong on both fronts.

    Will be interesting in both games that is for sure.

    Nursing a cold so it will be feet up, fire on, beer in hand for a large chunk of this w/e.

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    What IJ said…still think he's a w4nker now to be honest.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    its an amusing tale about Willie John from the lions. I think he's quite funny in a harmless kind of way and doesnt take himself too seriosuly.

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Idlejon – according to Cussiter scotland would prefer it to be dry to play the fast paced offloading game they like.

    the reason for wanting the roof open is to negate the advantage of the noise of the home crowd.

    The "Scotland prefer it to be wet" myth is from a generation ago. these days scotland play a fast offloading game best done in the dry. Its just hey ain't always very good at it

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    It looks like he's trying to reinvent himself – and it's just a wee bit forced for my liking.

    Anyway, onto the weekend….

    Predictions:

    Wales by 10 – 11 points

    Ireland by less than 5*

    England by 15 to 20 points

    *Yeah, I know, it's crazy, but unless you at least think you can, you can't 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    scotland by 3
    france by 10
    england by technical knockout

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    TJ, I don't believe that for one minute.

    I can't speak for what the players on the pitch can hear obviously, but in the stands there is no real difference in noise when the roof is open or closed.

    I'd maintain that it should have nothing to do with the visiting team anyway – it's Wales' stadium, if they do get an advantage in any way why should that be negated?

    Should we go to Croke Park and ask the Irish to be a little quieter because they are upsetting our little flowers?

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Idlejon – rugby is an outdoor game – the rules state that if the roof is to be closed both teams must agree. Why should the Scotland manager agree to giving walse an advantage? He might have done it just to annoy them

    A wet day would be to Wales advantage I am sure.

    IdleJon
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    A wet day would be to Wales advantage I am sure.

    Really? Comparing the Welsh backs handling and attacking to the Scottish backs? I'd say it would be the other way around.

    Irrelevant anyway as its likely to be dry.

    deadlydarcy
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    I love that Ireland pray for good weather and a dry pitch these days. Those dark days of the early to mid nineties when we spent every February and March doing rain dances on Friday evenings. Jeebus, even the Scots could beat us back then we were so bad… 🙂

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Idlejon – Really? Look at the yards made players beaten and especially offloads in the last round of games – Scotland did far more than Wales

    This whole myth of Scotland liking a wet day is from a generation ago. Scotland play a much faster offloading game than the rest of the NH including Wales altho Wales run them close. The scotland game plan is based around speed, offloading and pick and go – all best done on a dry day

    You will see on Saturday. Unless Wales up their game a lot Scotland will give them a lesson

    anagallis_arvensis
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    be fair the attacking threat of the scotland backs aint much, a kicking outside half, two big boshers in the centre and patterson at fullback who is little threat and is there to kik goals. Thats why they havent scored a try against any good teams for about 10 years.

    They do play a fast paced game though, much more so than wales these days. They also have a good lineout which will make all the difference

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Idlejon – What the scots camp are saying
    http://www.scrum.com/sixnations/rugby/story/110280.html

    Last weekends games stats

    Scotland Wales
    26 Kicks from hand 36
    129 Passes 123
    110 Runs 82
    436 Metres run with ball 252
    Attacking
    3 Clean breaks 5
    10 Defenders beaten 6
    14 Offloads 5

    Now both teams were beaten But Scotland were beaten by what looks so far to be the best tam by far. Which team made the played the passing and offloading game more?

    IdleJon
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    Come on TJ – we've already established that last weekend Wales were woeful, so it's not fair comparing those matches! 🙂

    Bad weather is a massive leveller – you know that as well as I do.

    So it puzzles me as to why the Scots would specifically ask for the roof to be kept open with the possibility that Wales in February could be soaked (as would be very normal) and that they then can't handle the ball with the aplomb, style and flair that you are describing.

    Doesn't quite sound right to me.

    And yes, I agree, it's an outdoor game, but having spent many hours (probably days) of my life, soaked through and freezing my nuts off on various terraces I'd love it to become a summer game. Having said that, here in Wales the summers are quite as miserable as the winters, very often. 😀

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    tries scored?

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    AA – you underestimate the Scotland backs badly there. If only we had a standoff! Lamont is far more than just a big bosher and Patterson is a very good open field runner.

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