Bless him. Grandad just wants this nightmare to be over so he can toddle off and spend more time with his aubergines.

I hadn’t thought of it that way. 6 more weeks of hell and then he can resign and have best Xmas of his life in total peace. [1]

Of course the poor old chap might win… 🙁

[1] Safe in the knowledge he succeeded in opening the way for a Socialist Britain by getting us out of the evil neo-liberal EU.

If a GE is called and Parliament is dissolved then doesn’t all current legislation in the process of being debated die with it?

Including the current Withdrawal Agreement  Bill in limbo?

Oh FFS can this get any more ridiculous?

What is a GE going to give prove? Why have the opposition parties agreed to it?

I’m at a complete loss. Did no-one listen to Tony Blair yesterday or is this everyone actively ignoring him?

I’m a LibDem supporter and I don’t believe that.

Not sure what relevance the fact you’re a libdem supporter has? Do you change your estimate of a party’s seat Share according to whether you support them or not?

They’re neck and neck with Labour in the Polls they have a USP that appeals to 50pc of voters and the Leave vote is split two ways.

Looks good to me.

I dread to think what kind of campaign we’re going to see from the Tory’s with Cummings in charge.

Its a given that they’re going to employ exactly the same shennanigans as we saw in the referendum campaign. lies, lies, lies and more lies, flag-waving anti-EU xenophobia, dodgy funding, Cambridge Analytica style data abuse and Russian bots

This is going to be really really gutter level stuff

Not sure what relevance the fact you’re a libdem supporter has?

My comment is made from the point of view of a supporter, not someone out to rubbish them.

I dread to think what kind of campaign we’re going to see from the Tory’s with Cummings in charge.

“We” aren’t going to see the important parts ‘till after the election, if at all. Targeted online advertising full of conflicting “facts” that wouldn’t survive any kind of open scrutiny will be just as important as it was in 2016 (and when undermining May and during Johnson’s successful leadership campaign).

Oh, and there is Johnson’s best and cheapest weapon… people who claim to oppose him but will spend the next few months banging on about “Swindleson” or “Marxists”, “Centrists” or “Racists”. Time to focus on kicking out Conservative Brexit MPs.

They’re neck and neck with Labour in the Polls.

The Britain Elects poll tracker gives the Conservatives a lead of 10pts:

CON: 35.1% (+0.3)
LAB: 25.4% (-)
LDEM: 18.1% (-0.1)
BREX: 11.3% (-0.1)
GRN: 4.0% (-0.2)

Chgs. w/ last week. pic.twitter.com/fcvTl0024A

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) October 29, 2019

Nothing is certain beyond 10 mins but they’re not neck and neck.

I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on polling until today’s news plays through. Even then it hey are all over the place

Gosh, a choice of who to vote for, with 3 and a bit years of experience of unfulfilled promises, self appreciation and selfishness as a doctrine to choose from.  Does it matter who you vote for, after all, its all lies… right?

Lib dems

I’m sure they’ll do well out of this.   I heard Corbyn on the radio earlier actively supporting a referendum but that would mean extending Brexit even further I’m guessing.  Unless we stay in of course.

What is a GE going to give prove?

Potentially nothing but it was bad enough with a minority government, once the majority dropped to -43 an immediate election is inevitable.

The only alternative is that the opposition parties could have formed a temporary government, revoked and called an election. ….but they didn’t.

If we want a government that survives a 5 year term then a lot of us have to vote for the same party to provide a majority and in recent elections we’ve stopped doing that.

I’m hoping remainers will rally round the Libdems and change everything and we’ll have a single party with a good enough majority to govern for the first time since Blair’s last victory. It could easily end in another government with no workable majority, but an election isn’t optional unless you think the UK doesn’t need a functioning government.

my guess?

slim conservative majority.
farage still won’t get a seat.
Rees-Mogg looses his seat.
my MP (Cox) could do a giant steaming shit in the town square every day from now to election day and he’d still get a thumping majority.
labour collapse. corbyn won’t go.
lib dem gains. not enough to be official opposition.

no 2nd referendum, shit WA scrapes through. 5 more years of brexit bickering about trade deals.

Not a very committed remainer and that’s the danger.

I am a remainer who just thinks the Lib Dems are shit and I wouldn’t want them in power. Of course they will never be in power anyway so voting Lib Dem is a waste of anybodies time.

Added to the fact I live in a seat with a 66% winning Tory who has been there for 20+ years and the Leave vote was in the 60+%.

FFS @dazh & @dissonance & co.

All parties need to present their policies.

The only party likely to form a majority government are the Tories.

The retort “their polices are fantasies because they can’t form a majority government” would also apply to Green, PC, Brexit and SNP parties. So move on from it. Oh, and at this election, probably also applies to Labour.

Shut the f up about why you currently dislike the LibDems and get convincing people to vote to unseat Tories using tactical voting.

Shut the f up about why you currently dislike the LibDems and get convincing people to vote to unseat Tories using tactical voting.

ermm it doesnt work that way. If I am going to vote tactically I want to know how their policies will translate in reality. So lets get past the libdem unicorn and find out what they will offer. The problem is given Swinsons hatred of Labour I would have concerns she would choose to do some deal with the tories that would screw us over.

tactical voting

hold your nose and vote for the party most likely to defeat Mr Johnson

hold your nose and vote for the party most likely to defeat Mr Johnson

brexit party then?

All policy platforms are what that party would do if they could implement their policies without having to reach a compromise with other parties

The flaw here is we have been here before with the Libdems. So rather than dealing with yellow unicorns I would like some simple statements about their proposed strategies. We have been told they will refuse to play with others. What does that translate to in reality?