My prediction is less a prediction than a wish – i’d like the composition of the House to end up exactly as it was before it was dissolved. Like exactly, just so we can all agree on what a waste of time that was.

If we do end up there, i hope we take some time to reflect on it. I think that at least half of us can agree that we did not take too kindly to being rounded up in the whole ’80something% of people voted for parties committed to…’ line in 2017.

Many people will be voting tactically tomorrow in most part to prevent a Tory Majority.

If this proves to be successful, please, please can we not interpret this as either an endorsement of Corbyn, or a thrust for a 2nd Indy Ref, or a ‘swing’ to the LibDems, or an abandonment of anyone caught in the crossfire?

BoZo called this as a de facto Referendum (which should really be a crime in itself – how on Earth could you expect people to behave as if they were voting on a single issue when they are surrounded by such dissolution?) so if people treat it as such then the overall lessons of it will necessarily be skewed.

You can’t tell people to vote tactically and then analyse the results as if you hadn’t, is all i’m asking.

It’ll be as much of an all-nighter from me as i can stand, i love this shit. It’s all about the ‘Portillo Face’ Live & Direct. Could be Raab, or Cream-Cracker! or ****’ Dunkin-Donuts!

See you all on the other side. Bon chance y’all.

It would interesting to know how many of those that have contributed to this thread have the ability to cast a vote in a constituency where they might just be part of making an impact.

Me, I live in a marginal, Labour by 4k last time, Tory by 2k before that. Not been campaigned at much tho.

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You have to consider that you’re wrong. That most people in this country have an entirely different set of values to you. That you’re a minority

Yes, I am in a minority. So is pretty much everyone, that’s why we get governments elected by 40% of voters on a 70% turnout. If there was an actual majority position, then it’d always win.

Dur.

I live in Richmondshire North Yorkshire as safe a Tory seat as they come, as a socialist i have had no potential representation for nigh on 40 years…

There are many lost voices in this country.

I’ve never had a say in the voting process; grew up in Henley on Thames where a someone in a Gestapo uniform and a blue rosette punching an immigrant child in the face would actually see their vote share increase. Now in Guildford with a 17K tory majority on a 55K turnout, however with the incumbent having resigned in protest and standing as an IND this time, maybe…..just maybe…..the vote will split and the LibDems might be in play.

I enjoyed the analysis of Boris’s tractor stunt yesterday. Driving through a polystyrene wall to signify him clearing the roadblocks of parliament and brexit, that’s what wins votes! While others observed that he then **** off to the boardroom with the other important people while ordinary people were left behind to clear up all the mess he’d left behind

BBC Breakfast is great this morning though….with it being purdah we’ve had articles on hedgehogs, strength of Bill Turnbull’s hair, whether tapping a can before opening stops it fizzing over……

It would interesting to know how many of those that have contributed to this thread have the ability to cast a vote in a constituency where they might just be part of making an impact.

Me, and I think Kelvin as well, live in Calder Valley which has less than 1000 vote Tory lead (Craig Whittaker) a mouthpiece whip, there’s enough spare votes spreadi in the Greens and Lib Dems to unseat him I think. Keep your fingers crossed.

North Ayrshire is actually a fairly volatile constituency, SNP won with 18k (down from 22k) and Labour and Tories trailing with 13k and 15k respectively.

https://electionresults.parliament.uk/election/2017-06-08/results/Location/Constituency/North%20Ayrshire%20and%20Arran

Everything to play for here.

My constituency has been Labour continuously since 1934. I think it’s safe 😉

East Dunbartonshire – Lib Dem/SNP snorefest.

Michael Gove so perhaps they did.

More beige butt plug than sock puppet I would say.

There was a queue outside our polling station before it opened at 7 this morning.

At least people are getting off their arses for this one.

So the big question is:

Will the non-dom non-taxpaying foreign billionaires get the government they have paid for? Bye bye NHS and pensions.

Let’s make sure they don’t.

I don’t think any UK election has ever been won by less than three votes. So objectively there’s no point voting wherever you live. But that’s not the point, the point is you express your views with your vote and it’s the only chance you get short of rioting. So just vote for whichever candidate you agree most with, and above all:

VOTE.

Exactly. Since I reached voting age 30 odd years ago I have lived in 3 strong Tory constituencies. It is pretty difficult not to in the counties I have lived in. However, I have voted every time and voted for the party I am most closely aligned to. It is still an extra number for the party even if they didn’t win.

It is still an extra number for the party even if they didn’t win.

Exactly. Even in the bluest of blue seats, every non Tory vote is a sign of disagreement.

The change may start small, but it has to start somewhere.

Yesterday a neighbour and acquaintance (friend would be pushing it) was telling my wife how he had been leafleting for Conservatives. He was bragging about pulling some labour leaflets out of letterboxes whilst putting his in.
*Somebody* taped a Vote Labour poster to his gatepost last night…

I’ve lived in a marginal and in a safe seat & it’s swings and roundabouts. I don’t normally vote but one time when I lived in the marginal I wanted to send a signal about a big issue of the day and voted accordingly. It didn’t go the way I wanted but there were only 9 votes in it – that’s power! But in a truely safe seat you are totally spared the need to consider tactical voting. I live in a safe seat and was cheerfully able to vote Libdem this time. Due to the polls I don’t think I’d have felt able to do that in a marginal, I’d have had to vote for a party I consider damaging in the hope of stopping a party I consider more damaging.

Pros and cons to both.

It would just would be very much more motivating if my little vote was added up to all the other who felt like me and I knew it contributed to someone being selected to represent me.

Yep, I guess I will only be in that position if I move to Brighton and live with all the hippies

Proportional representation for the win

Proportional representation for the win

Agree. I’ve been in favour of FPTP all my life but when it stops delivering workable majoritys you might as well just go down the PR route.

Of course, it’s unlikely to happen since it reaquires a party that has won an election under FPTP to change the system that allowed them the win.