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2019 General Election
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MoreCashThanDashFull Member
The local candidates attended a debate at Jnrs 6rh Form college today, then a “vote” was held, something like 600 kids took part
Labour – 44%
Green – 35%
Tory – no idea, apparently an idiot
LibDem – no idea, also came across badly
Independent Change party – 0.5% quite a nationally known idiotSounds like it got a bit feisty, the right wing people started having a go at the kids questioning them, the Tory caved in when a 17 year old asked him why Universal Credit had destroyed her family.
As for “not voting for Corbyn”, I don’t like strawberry creams, but I still prefer Cadbury Roses
Malvern RiderFree MemberStrong words from Pie. Even for Pie. I feel pretty much identically the same way with another 30 mins tacked on about Blair, Cameron, Clegg and Farage, tabloids, antisocial media and How The **** We Got Here Now While Watching It Happen
thestabiliserFree MemberJezza did will there (sticks in the craw a bit)
Bozza got the soundbytes out though, and that’s what will get parroted the media and the ****osphere
Five more years of sliding further in to the mire
slowoldmanFull MemberCorbyn covered a wide range of topics whilst Johnson simply kept coming back to his “let’s get Brexit done” mantra irrespective of the topic under discussion.
robdixonFree Member“Monbiot has written some great stuff. I don’t agree with everything he says but he’s one of the decent journalists/authors with a moral compass.“
When “moral compass” includes reportedly retweeting entirely false child sex abuse allegations about someone and then naming them on Twitter.
roneFull MemberWhen “moral compass” includes reportedly retweeting entirely false child sex abuse allegations about someone and then naming them on Twitter.
Yep. He admits that was stupid.
binnersFull MemberAn interesting read from the Guardian
The Tories May think they’ve won – the stats tell a different story
Hopefully those 3.5 million young voters who’ve registered can overturn the wishes of the reactionary racist old Brexiteer giffers
cromolyollyFree MemberJezza did will there (sticks in the craw a bit)
I really noticed he stuck to his ethos of not taking personal cheapshots. Shame because BoJo left a few open goals for him and he didn’t go for them. Might have been more effective if he had.
kelvinFull MemberI really noticed he stuck to his ethos of not taking personal cheapshots.
It’s okay. If you watched Have I Got News For You straight afterwards, they threw all the cheapshots you could want at the Johnsons.
People know what Johnson is… there is no point Corbyn wasting time reminding people of that in a debate format (I didn’t see this one), he’s better of using the time to reassure viewers about how he would act if he was PM himself.
cromolyollyFree MemberPeople know what Johnson is… there is no point Corbyn wasting time
They know who he is and they still plan on voting for him.
I suppose I’m so used to the usual mud slinging that the absence of it really struck. Johnson would leave an opening like talking about how he would support business – Corbyn could have quoted Johnson’s f**” business back at him – didn’t. There were a bunch like that.
CougarFull MemberPeople know what Johnson is… there is no point Corbyn wasting time reminding people of that
Your conclusion is correct, but your premise isn’t.
Some people know what Johnson is, some think “eh, lovable rogue, my kind of guy, he really speaks to me” whilst queuing up at the food bank.
kerleyFree MemberHopefully those 3.5 million young voters who’ve registered can overturn the wishes of the reactionary racist old Brexiteer giffers
You, relying on the vote of 6th formers.
But yes, everyone under 30 should be forced to vote. That may be the only thing that saves us from the selfish and bitter over 45s creating such a horrible country.
WaderiderFree MemberThe press reporting seems to be from another planet:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50695198
A heavy pro Boris lean is my interpretation. I hope their sales keep shrinking.
cinnamon_girlFull MemberThat may be the only thing that saves us from the selfish and bitter over 45s creating such a horrible country.
lolz
roneFull MemberSo in the super Brexity area where I live my mum works in a carpet shop and a customer came in this morning and said the cash machine isn’t working because the Polish are drawing too much money out.
That is what connects Boris to the electorate. That stupid, illogical, racist mindset.
kimbersFull MemberProblem is youth don’t vote in anywhere near the numbers older voters do
I’m guessing that’s why we are going to be stuck with another 5 years of austerity & a decade more of these poisonous negotiations
"Anonymous party officials on both Labour and Conservative side are predicting a Conservative majority of 25-30". Hard to know how seriously to take this but I do know that there is quite a bit that I cannot tweet or share with press 😉#ge2019 https://t.co/Wj01VBWyUC
— Matthew Goodwin (@GoodwinMJ) December 6, 2019
I reckon enough postal votes are in that they know the red wall seats are loat
kelvinFull Memberlolz
Glad you find it funny. The first time voters I know are mad as hell about where the older generations are forcing them to go. Denying them all the chances, rights and opportunities we had at their age, but now no longer need for ourselves.
cinnamon_girlFull MemberGlad you find it funny. The first time voters I know are mad as hell about where the older generations are forcing them to go. Denying them all the chances, rights and opportunities we had at their age, but now no longer need for ourselves.
kelvin, there’s too many frankly derogatory assumptions made on here and wish it would stop. I watched the debate last night and, as a most certainly over 45 year old, saw right through Johnson and his “get it done” mantra. Am not convinced that everyone over 45 years old will be voting Tory, I’ve said on here before that I last voted for them some 20 years ago. People can see how extreme they’ve become, you’ve even got an ex PM telling the public not to vote for them.
kelvinFull MemberAm not convinced that everyone over 45 years old will be voting Tory
If course not “everyone” is. But if you think there isn’t a generational divide when it comes to who voters are supporting, and what they want to happen as regards Brexit, you can go ahead and point us to any study, survey or polling that suggests otherwise.
scotroutesFull MemberThe English are selfish bastards who would rather vote to keep another 1p in their wallets and purses than pay extra to fund public services.
If you disagree you can go ahead and point me to any general election result in the past 9 years that suggests otherwise.
crazy-legsFull MemberWonderfully written piece that sums up the awfulness of it all.
molgripsFree MemberIf you disagree you can go ahead and point me to any general election result in the past 9 years that suggests otherwise.
If you can point me in the direction of a study that shows all English people are the same, then go ahead.
jam-boFull MemberThe English are selfish bastards who would rather vote to keep another 1p in their wallets and purses than pay extra to fund public services.
If you disagree you can go ahead and point me to any general election result in the past 9 years that suggests otherwise.
The majority of votes did not go to the tories. Unfortunately thanks to FPTP, the majority of seats did.
scotroutesFull MemberIf you can point me in the direction of a study that shows all English people are the same, then go ahead.
Sure. Just after you’ve pointed me in the direction of a study that shows all over 45 year olds are the same.
benvFree MemberSome really nice people donate to the tories eh?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50686045
A co-founder of Hargeaves Lansdown, one of the UK’s largest financial services companies, Peter Hargreaves is estimated to be worth £3.3bn. He was a major supporter of the Leave.EU campaign during the EU referendum, donating £3.2m. He predicted the Brexit vote would be “the biggest stimulus to get our butts in gear that we have ever had….It will be like Dunkirk again.”
FFS. I’m going to need to move my Stocks and Shares ISA now.
benvFree MemberThe English are
selfishbastardswho would rather vote to keep another 1p in their wallets and purses than pay extra to fund public services.Aye, had my suspicions for a while now…
seosamh77Free Memberbinners
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An interesting read from the GuardianThe Tories May think they’ve won – the stats tell a different story
Hopefully those 3.5 million young voters who’ve registered can overturn the wishes of the reactionary racist old Brexiteer giffers
See if you watch any of the debates, it’s been very noticeable that the cheersleaders on either side have been very low, ie the ones that will clap anything that comes out of their favourites mouth. Been thinking for a while that that probably means there’s an awful lot of floating voters out there too.
Malvern RiderFree MemberThanks for that crazy-legs. Especially
Boris Johnson, who looks like something you’d keep your pyjamas in, and who no reasonable person would choose to lead them into a chorus, has a strangely hunched demeanour; perhaps from all the time he spends crammed inside married women’s wardrobes, like a randy jack-in-the-box.
BOINK!
This confused sex yeti…
ARGYARGHWHAT?
…has been booed by nurses: people who can remove a dressing, examine a festering wound, and still look up at you with a smile.
Bravo
With a delivery best approximated as a living checklist of stroke warnings, his bumbling posho shtick almost resembles buffering, a kind of 3G Wodehouse. He doesn’t even seem to enjoy it; throughout the campaign he’s sported a face that looks as if it’s been kneaded by a baker going through a particularly bitter divorce, and the irony that comes into his eyes every time he crowbars in a catchphrase means that he breaks the fourth wall more than Deadpool. We thought the office of prime minister was what he lived for, his consuming ambition. It’s all been a bit like hearing Tony The Tiger talk about his diabetes.
Back of the net. All well and good, but let’s be honest this just makes the naughty cuddly Bumps and Trorises of the world even more popular with the man in the street. Teflon. Any publicity is good publicity. Populism works like that. Acerbic and clever comedians either missed that memo or are simply cashing in on the wave like every other cynical grifter,
ADFull MemberI wish I had 10% of the dignity shown by David Merritt.
I just cannot begin to comprehend how anyone could vote in such a way that supports Boris.
martinhutchFull Member….It will be like Dunkirk again.
One of the most humiliating defeats in British history? Sounds roughly correct.
kerleyFree MemberAm not convinced that everyone over 45 years old will be voting Tory,
Of course they won’t but around 45 is the tipping point where more than 50% are Tory. Once past that age it just gets worse and worse.
As I said, a lot of that is selfishness (they have done alright by then so bring up drawbridge, cut public services as they don’t need them – although they are in for a surprise when they are 80)
frankconwayFree MemberKerley, what’s your problem with over 45’s?
To quote you…..’As I said, a lot of that is selfishness (they have done alright by then so bring up drawbridge, cut public services as they don’t need them – although they are in for a surprise when they are 80)’.
There is no evidence to support that ill-informed assertion.
Why are you so bitter?NorthwindFull Memberkerley
Member
Of course they won’t but around 45 is the tipping point where more than 50% are Tory. Once past that age it just gets worse and worse.
You realise the graphic you posted disagrees? At 40-49, more people vote Labour.50-59 is where the tipping point is. And getting older, interestingly.
cromolyollyFree MemberOne of the most humiliating defeats in British history? Sounds roughly correct.
Might want to re-read your history…..
martinhutchFull MemberEven Churchill described it as a disaster. 60,000 killed or wounded, complete German supremacy, thousands of French troops slaughtered to buy us time, all the BEF heavy equipment abandoned..
Only a tactical cockup by the Germans allowed our evacuation.
cinnamon_girlFull Memberkerley – do you know who owns YouGov? There is a Tory connection!
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