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2019 General Election
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OnzadogFree MemberPosted 4 years ago
Not sure it’s going to help where I am but I plan to vote for whomever is most likely to remove the career Tory yes man we currently have.
kelvinFull MemberPosted 4 years agoIt’s the only approach that can neuter Johnson.
And that’s what needs to happen.outofbreathFree MemberPosted 4 years agoAnd likewise, if there is the chance of getting a Labour MP over the line against a Tory, LD voters should be holding their noses and voting Labour if they are serious about stopping a hard(er) Brexit.
Yeah, if you want a softer Brexit (if you think the EU will open up the negotitions a third time[1]) then Labour is the answer. If you want remain, then Libdems.
You’re the first to spot Labours USP: Appealing to people who want Brexit but a different Brexit and are prepared to risk remain to get it. Quite a limited niche! I reckon leavers will just vote for BP or Tory.
[1] Personally, I think they would.
kelvinFull MemberPosted 4 years agoIt all depends on the seat @outofbreath … there are so few Labour/LibLab marginals in a general election that your comparison is irrelevant for most of the UK. Just work out who can defeat the Conservative candidate in the seat you have a vote it, and vote for them. It’s the only way to neuter Johnson.
dissonanceFull MemberPosted 4 years agoQuite a limited niche!
And an imaginary one. Problem is both the hard right and the useful idiots elsewhere will be pushing this line.
HounsFull MemberPosted 4 years agoLet’s hope for a really cold, icy/snowy Election Day, keep the Tory voting old giffers at home
kelvinFull MemberPosted 4 years ago@dissonance, I don’t think the ‘hard right’ are presenting the Labour position as anything other than ‘betraying the people’, yadda yadda… @outofbreath’s analysis has nowt to do with the ‘hard right’.
@houns, bad weather might keep people working long hours with big commutes away from the booths. The retired people will rock up at 11am, and then go for tea and cakes and a natter about saving England from the changes they dislike.fatoldgitFull MemberPosted 4 years agoI think it will all come down to places like Harrogate in the end,.
A slim majority in favour of remain at the referendum,
An M P who has always voted for which ever version of the deal was touted,
And a definate possibility of turning back to Lib Dem as a result at the GE, ( although it would take a large swing )
there are a lot of folks around here really pissed off at the idea of leaving who may swing it,
after all the leavers will still vote Tory.
It won’t take many Tory seats to change hands to leave us right back where we started from……..
For Harrogate read pretty much any Tory seat that voted remain, where ld are in 2nd place ,
On the other side it works in reverse in Labour seats that voted leave, but only where the Tories are a close 2nd,
After all I can’t see many leave voters switching to L D, they are more likely to stick with Labour and hope for another referendum ( or cross fingers for a Tory win )
But
Whatever happens remember 1 very important fact
Politicians of every brand will say whatever it takes to get your vote so don’t believe a word any of them say ☹️outofbreathFree MemberPosted 4 years agoIt all depends on the seat @outofbreath … there are so few Labour/LibLab marginals in a general election that your comparison is irrelevant for most of the UK.
From all the commentary I’ve read there’s no way to predict what’s a safe seat and what’s not – Brexit (with a remain party and two leave partys) changes everything. eg Some safe Tory seats will be remain areas, in some areas the Torys are remainers and the Labour voters are leavers and so on.
There’s no such thing as a safe seat this time.
kelvinFull MemberPosted 4 years agoThere’s no such thing as a safe seat this time.
Not really true, unless you simply mean there are fewer safe seats than before.
dissonanceFull MemberPosted 4 years agoI don’t think the ‘hard right’ are presenting the Labour position as anything other than ‘betraying the people’, yadda yadda
Really? You dont think the brexiteer elite wont be using that as one of their many attack lines?
chewkwFree MemberPosted 4 years agoWoohoo! Election!
I just hope the main parties get hammered.
My vote will go to Brexit Party in Labour land.
😄binnersFull MemberPosted 4 years agoA lot of labour MP’s are apparently already clearing their desks at Westminster
chewkwFree MemberPosted 4 years agoA lot of labour MP’s are apparently already clearing their desks at Westminster
I hope that is the same for the Tories.
footflapsFull MemberPosted 4 years agoA lot of labour MP’s are apparently already clearing their desks at Westminster
Hopefully JC is one of them….
roneFull MemberPosted 4 years ago2019 Pre Election Polling (Changes With 2017 Pre Election Polling):
CON: 36.6% (-7.2)
LAB: 24.5% (-0.9)
LDM: 17.9% (+7.4)
BXP: 11.1% (+11.1)
GRN: 4.0% (+0.2)
UKIP: 0.7% (-10.1)Tories and UKIP in much worse positions, Lib Dems in a much better position.
— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) October 29, 2019
sootyandjimFree MemberPosted 4 years agoHopefully JC is one of them…
Always good to see the politically illiterate happy to out themselves.
73% of voters in Islington North voted for Corbyn in the last GE. You may not like him as a politician but it’s pretty obvious that his constituents do.
Also please bear in mind you were responding to something ‘binners’ dribbled forth via his keyboard. He has a pretty solid history of talking complete cods.
kerleyFree MemberPosted 4 years agoThere’s no such thing as a safe seat this time.
I will bet £1,000 with anyone who wants to take it that Desmond Swayne will win New Forest West as easily as he has for the last 20 years.
fatoldgitFull MemberPosted 4 years agoHopefully JC is one of them….
Boris is in more danger of losing his seat than JC,
binnersFull MemberPosted 4 years agoI suspect Jess Phillips is bang on, here. She usually is
Jess Phillips – There will be an onslaught of money, from who knows where, coming into the country to fund propaganda during our election.. our electoral laws are not fit for purpose & we are about to see foreign funding flood into our system.#generalelection2019 #GE2019 pic.twitter.com/M2MUl7WEvy
— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) October 29, 2019
No doubt Cummings will be planning on doubling down on on all the dodgy dubious stunts that he used in the referendum campaign, plus some new additions
dissonanceFull MemberPosted 4 years agoI read Boris was moving seats to somewhere safer
That is the rumour and seems pretty likely. Reckon the one way kerley would lose the bet is if Johnson nicks that seat but more seriously got several seats available from those quitting or have been given the boot which are a lot safer.
cloudnineFree MemberPosted 4 years agoThe people voted in 2017. Why do we need a second general election? I say anyone who wants to re-run the will of the people in 2017 is anti-democratic
richardkFree MemberPosted 4 years agoClifton-Brown in the Cotswolds is an almost guaranteed safe seat, even with his ejection from the party conference. If he gets less than 50% of the vote that might be seen as a gentle warning…
dazhFull MemberPosted 4 years agoA lot of labour MP’s are apparently already clearing their desks at Westminster
Cowardly *****! (sorry I am aware I’m swearing a lot today). Seriously though, if a politician of any colour doesn’t relish the chance to fight an election and make their case for whatever it is they believe in, then they shouldn’t be standing. No doubt we can rely on them to spend the campaign whining about how unfair it all is and how it’s not their fault. If they’re not willing to fight they should stand aside for those who are.
MoreCashThanDashFull MemberPosted 4 years agoMy understanding was that foreign funding during an election campaign was illegal, but I daresay it will happen.
Oh, and the old doddery Brexit voters will have postal votes already set up.
zippykonaFull MemberPosted 4 years agoSo how did we will only back an election on the 9th end up giving Dumbojo what he wanted all along.
When are the people who know what they’re doing turn up?
roneFull MemberPosted 4 years agoI suspect Jess Phillips is bang on, here. She usually is<
She’s probably upset she’s got to try and get behind Labour and put them into power.
(seriously – what the bloody hell is she warbling on about. Her acting is getting worse.)
brakesFree MemberPosted 4 years agoMy constituency swings between Labour and Lib Dem every few years – currently Labour but could go back to Lib Dem. No chance of the Tories getting the seat.
taxi25Free MemberPosted 4 years agoThe people voted in 2017. Why do we need a second general election? I say anyone who wants to re-run the will of the people in 2017 is anti-democratic
The result of the 2017 election has been implemented, the referendum result has been………………
kelvinFull MemberPosted 4 years agoSpeak to some female Labour MPs who dare to speak their mind Graham.
kimbersFull MemberPosted 4 years agoThe result of the 2017 election has been implemented, the referendum result has been………………
Really? We’ve brought back fox hunting & have a Brexit deal that has no border in the Irish sea, close regulatory alignment with the EU & binding workers rights, standards & environmental protections , plus workers on company boards, independent energy supplier review, corporate pay review, takeover rules revised, productivity investment fund, prison & justice review, shale gas wealth fund, strengthend the union😁🤣🤣🤣
https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto
If we don’t have a vote to repeal fox hunting then democracy in this country is dead !!! 🙄
fatoldgitFull MemberPosted 4 years agoDon’t forget,
In order to vote you have to make sure you are registered to do so
Regardless of how you plan on voting ( and please do ) it is important to register
https://www.registertovote.service.gov.uk/register-to-votesootyandjimFree MemberPosted 4 years agoSpeak to some female Labour MPs who dare to speak their mind Graham.
And yet MPs such as Laura Pidcock regularly speak their mind.
Maybe, just maybe, it’s the message not the messenger that attracts the criticism?
Jess Phillips, unfortunately, is only generally interested in the prospects of Jess Phillips.
chewkwFree MemberPosted 4 years agoThe people voted in 2017. Why do we need a second general election? I say anyone who wants to re-run the will of the people in 2017 is anti-democratic
The result of the 2017 election has been implemented, the referendum result has been………………
The only chance to get Brexit is to “drain the swamp”, hopefully with No Deal, then start again. i.e. get out with No Deal then after that the politicians can argue amongst themselves until their face turn blue.
sootyandjimFree MemberPosted 4 years agoThe only chance to get Brexit is to “drain the swamp”, hopefully with No Deal, then start again. i.e. get out with No Deal then after that the politicians can argue amongst themselves until their face turn blue.
Without wishing to be rude, are you even eligible to vote in the UK?
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