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  • jambalaya
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    Priestland / Biggar. Must have been the French commentator’s accent or the rowdy bar 😉

    I’m sure the Welsh lad was fuming at Cole’s infringement so he went for the eyes, cheap shot and very stupid in full view.

    Too many subs and poor game management (once again) at the end when comfortably ahead and in control. I’ll catch the highlights online to see how we turned penalty advantage into a score against. Defensive error on last score, bad mistake in a key area of the field.

    Always a good sign to win when not playing particualry well. Much to work on and big improvements possible.

    captainsasquatch
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    I’m stealing that comment!

    That one’s a freebie. The payment of the wager was slightly more painful, a 20 point deficit would have had me a quids in though at 17-1. 😈

    anagallis_arvensis
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    If A.N.Other soccerist had a career ending injury, many of them have been taken from school at 16 or earlier, with little or no longer term education.

    Most wendy ballists arent educated at Harrow or some other public school.

    tallie
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    DanW It is unfair to blame him solely for Priestland’s charge down as Simpson’s pass to him was suitably awful.

    Dan some interesting opinions but you’re not exactly helping refute AA’s point that England fans don’t actually know who’s on the pitch…

    CaptainFlashheart
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    anagallis_arvensis
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    It was Dawsons pass surely??

    wrecker
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    About as accurate as the rest of the post!

    DanW
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    It could have possibly been tongue in cheek Tallie

    mindmap3
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    Good an accurate summary from mindmap3 I think. Cole isn’t hurt and the game is (just about) won so no need for a fuss from us.

    Those tries in the last need to have been prevented, for gods sake! But still, before the game if I hadn’t watched it I would have said the final score reflects the teams, occasion and location.

    Good to see North back in some form, but Itoje, jeez if we could find a few more like him.

    I doubt Gustard will be happy with the line speed I’d defensive effort in the last 20 mins. Part of me can’t help wondering if the RWC horror show started to play on their minds after the charge down try. They seemed determined to hit the self destruct button. That’s not meant to be disingenuous to Wales who upped the intensity, but the cool heads were lost.

    Kruis has been going well and it’s good to see Billy doing the full 80.

    DanW; I wish Simpson was on the pitch! He was the form nine in the prem until getting broken.

    Thought the back three were pretty good, I like Watson he took some good balls in the air even if a few were knocked on, Brown had a good game and Nowell was busy. Again a fallow callow back three.

    I rate North, Williams offers more in attack (to my eyes than Halfpenny) but Cuthbert isn’t great especially when you kick over the top of him. Wales looked really dangerous once the shackles were off.

    tallie
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    That’s a very Scottish sounding defence Dan!

    wrecker
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    Aw, look

    deadlydarcy
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    No intent, no problem.

    I’m afraid that is about as not

    End of and beyond discussion,

    as it could be.

    shortbread_fanylion
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    Flashy – off the top of my head I can think of a couple of footballers who have degrees. Juan Mata of Man U and Duncan Watmore at Sunderland.

    DanW
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    Mindmap- indeed. He’s definitely up there as one of the best *proper* 9’s IMO, but desperately unlucky with the timing of injuries

    igm
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    Here’s an idea, now that rugby allows substitutions as players can no longer last 80 minutes, maybe we could do the same with referees?

    It seems to be in the last ten minutes that Joubert makes most of his mistakes – sub him at 65. 😉

    namastebuzz
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    EJ made some errors – the game was nearly won but taking off your leader, subbing your 10, putting on a rusty 13 at 12 and an inexperienced 13 at 13 almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Huge credit to the Welsh for getting back in it but England should have had it won by half time.

    If Brown had any real ability he’d have scored what should have been an easy try for a top class full-back. Watson should be at 15. Youngs’ passing is abysmal and cost the first try even though Ford should have made a different decision.

    Still, for a team in development and nowhere near its full potential they’ve done OK.

    Are you watching Stuart Lancaster? You could have picked Itoje last year. He may not have been ready but you never found out. He certainly looks ready now.

    namastebuzz
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    I don’t understand any of the love for Watson. Distinctly average.

    I agree.

    Apart from scoring tries, being brilliant in the air, showing scintillating speed and footwork and running over Alex Cuthbert he’s done nothing.

    Kryton57
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    😀

    Kryton57
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    EJ made some errors

    I’m not so sure that Gatland played Wales to EJ’s game plan and it backfired. It seems that Wales resurrected themselves in the final 20 – which in the past has been when EJ makes his changes putting other teams to the sword with fresh players.

    Did Gatland tell them to hold back a little then attack the final 20 knowing England would be slower? If he did it almost worked, and certainly would have done if they weren’t 16 down at HT.

    Just the French now though, and we all know what a lottery that could be.

    DanW
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    Bah, anyone can give Cuthbert the run around 🙂 Watson is great without doubt but not on the wing where I don’t think you get the best out of him at this level. Now EJ is in and has seen Goode for what he is I guess actually starting at 15 for England isn’t as unthinkable as it once was If something were to happen to Brown

    Kryton57
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    #mighty maro

    Sorry about that, I just wanted to be on trend 😉

    duckman
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    He is bloody good though! Blind side surely,you have good second rows,him, VP and Clifford would go some. Oh and both of those foul play incidents were cards,since that seems to be the chat, CFH nails the time without them.

    onehundredthidiot
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    Line-outs are becoming as bad as scrums. Does no one throw down the middle? Getting so obvious that we might as well go to league throw ins.

    captainsasquatch
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    Line-outs are becoming as bad as scrums. Does no one throw down the middle? Getting so obvious that we might as well go to league throw ins.

    I just thought that England were over compensating because of the wind. 😳

    namastebuzz
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    Watson is great without doubt but not on the wing where I don’t think you get the best out of him at this level.

    Indeed – that’s why I said he should be at fullback. 😉

    Besides, whatever good he does, Brown is simply not top class. Watson could be. Goode is far, far too slow for international rugby despite being a skilled all-round footballer at club level.

    Top teams have great fullbacks who can create and take chances – think Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Willie LeRoux, Israel Folau, Rob Kearney (in latter days perhaps) etc.

    duckman
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    Says a lot about Marler that when handbagging with a short,fat,ugly,receding Ginger prop,the first thing Marler mentions is his background/race. Despite the defence of a number of posters on here that it is just banter,the irb has guidelines that start at 4 weeks.

    IdleJon
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    wrecker – Member
    Is it the same posters who thought that Brown’s boot was ok who are now a bit breathless and hysterical over the attempt at the fastest eye-gouge in history?

    Firstly, I hope you enjoyed that game idlejon. I did

    Not sure that ‘enjoyed’ is the correct word. My girls learned new combinations of unusual words. England deserved to win – no complaints there.

    Secondly, one was illegal and one was not. That should set it straight for you, glad I could help.

    I’m sure he’ll get whatever he deserves. It was careless, but played in real time I can’t see that it was a real attempt at gouging. I’ve recreated it with a pile of soft toys, dolls and children…I’m off to casualty now. 😆

    Now, on a serious note – who was talking about the post RWC 6Ns being meaningless? 😆

    Are France capable of a) putting a big score on Scotland today. 2) beating England next week to steal the championship win?

    Pigface
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    Who has seen the photo of North getting the pass away before he goes out of play. 😆 I think it is called clutching at straws.

    well done england it hurts to say it, why didnt Wales show up for 60 minutes?

    duckman
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    Don’t be too hard on yourself pigface, it was more like 50mins.

    wrecker
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    fair play idlejon, that post made me laugh!

    2) beating England next week to steal the championship win?

    I’m expecting this to happen.

    Point of note, brown was englands key influencer. 7 defenders beaten, 138m made. To say he’s not world class is incorrect.

    Pigface
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    Oh he is world class, a world class twunt 😆

    Cheers Ducky

    Kryton57
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    Mike Brown is world class. It’s just that if you put all the first choice international 15’s to in a list he wouldn’t be the top of it.

    tallie
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    Point of note, brown was englands key influencer. 7 defenders beaten, 138m made. To say he’s not world class is incorrect

    He’s probably the best we’ve got and certainly did some good stuff yesterday but there’s still plenty of room for improvement. He should have scored in the corner when he made that break in the first half and his passing remains a bit suspect. In particular it was noticible that he received
    a much better pass from Itoje than he gave in the build up to the try.

    wrecker
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    He’s far from perfect, but he’s easily an international class 15. I wouldn’t swap him for Hogg, Kearney or even Halfpenny.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Willie LeRoux, Israel Folau, Rob Kearney

    Is this a game off spot the odd one out?!!!

    To say he’s not world class is incorrect.

    On Brown it depends on your definition of world class, apart from the obvious anomally he’s not as good as those listed above.
    Brown is an excellent 15 but does seem to be let down by top end gas and finishing ability. Loopy Liam, Hogg, 1/2p, Zebo, Brown all have strengths and weaknesses but overall are much the same. Hogg might be the best I suppose. Watson and Halam Amos could be future lions at 15.

    wrecker
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    And matthew morgan of course 😉

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Stop talking about him someone might hear!!!!

    Marlers elbow here:
    http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/adrumm/video-joe-marler-find-massive-trouble-punching-rob-evans/

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Racial abuse here, tbh I cant tell who says it
    https://mobile.twitter.com/pinkymallen/status/708752612678565888/video/1

    andylaightscat
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    looks like Marler is just trying to get Evan’s arm out of the way 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
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