Should have been 15-3 Tuilagi’s lack of pace exposed.

Farrell is such a cock 😆 got away with a cheap shot and got carded for deliberately slowing ball down ( I think)

Well, just read the bbc report that basically said the all blacks thrashed England. By 1 point? We’re England just very lucky to happen to score 3 tries? Before we start again AA, not defending England, I didn’t see the match (no broadband either thanks to sky!) so honestly, just asking!

Well, there were definitely moments in the 2nd half where it felt like England were being thrashed. When the score was 28-13 (I think) it then felt like we were out of it. But they came back pretty well.
I suppose the “thrashed” thing comes from the fact that we never actually looked like we could win it in once the 2nd half got going.

No probs with sky here.

Agree with all the comments so far. Tuilagi needs to be back in the centres, Burrell at 12? 36 is a liability and wasted so much ball.

wtf happened at the 2nd half kickoff? In the first 15 minutes England looked like a shadow of themselves in the 1st half. They were all asleep and gave the ab’s all the space they needed. I was shocked that Lawes and Vunipola seem to add nothing to the game.

The irony of Gashton scoring the final try and our lack of another decent winger might unfortunately see the swan diving idiot on the pitch next week.

Some credit for playing the game to the end though

Aus 6 France 0. Glad i missed that one…getting ready to hide behind the sofa for the wales game!!

Ashton isnt bad but suffered from being hugely over hyped and then having a drop in form. Its just he was made out to be world class and he never was.

Big hit, mildly nsfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZ_1kHXj6M

Is what over? Didnt see a thing from behind the sofa…..

End of the road for Adam and Spikey I think both Lee and Davies stepped up and need to start. Liam Williams was shite but seeing as how Gatland hates Bryne we have no other option than Hook. Shingler is Croft light but who else is there, McCusker wouldnt even make the Bokke notice him. SA just too big and strong and wales were poor early on.

Cuthberts try at 3.20 he’s a big donkey in defence but christ he can finish!!

Yeah Gatlandball doesnt work when the opposition are bigger and more aggressive. They defended better in the second half and never gave up but they were out classed.

Never saw the logic of Tuilagi on the wing, he’s a player the ABs know is dangerous, he needs to be in the thick of it drawing attention and causing problems. Clearly the ABs had had a “solid” half time talk and England failed to live with the intensity and skill level. IMO Farrell should have been rested and Burns needs more game time.

@Kryton – we have to play smart with position, if that means kicking we should. I think the ABs have a fantastic kicking game, really smart to put you under pressure. We should do the same. Its all in the execution.

I thought we’d get killed on this tour so the narrow losses feel quite constructive and we are getting game time for some new blood.

Wales, I though Jones was below his best this past 6N. I am sure he can get himself back to being first choice but as @aa says others should get a start now and up to AJ to respond.

@Kryton – understood but plan A should be to execute the kicks better. If we keep trying to run the ball out of our own half sooner or later we’ll turn one over or give a penalty away.

Samson Lee was outstanding when he came on, needs to start at 3. Jones has been less effective since the hit was removed.

Frankly thats a joke. AB’s & SA charge like that all the time. Jackson should learn to tackle IMHO.

Yes. Wasn’t even a penalty.

I like that side, I’m even very begrudgingly able to accept Ashton on the basis that Burns is getting more game time.

England 21, South Africa 20. 😀

What a fantastically tense game. Some really impressive rugby.
And as Kryton says, England are Junior World Champs. Best of all, by beating South Africa.

(just got around to watching the final!)

they looked out of it this morning. still a good squad tho.