So what is it then, moral considerations and politics etc or the actual hard investigation that was affected.

You have yet to get back to me as to how the actual investigations over a decade were affected in a major way by political correctness. In the meantime, crimes against Asian girls are not being given due attention partly because of le shock horror…..racism.

So I’m going to do a badnewzday here and say all Tories are complicit in the abuse of ethnic minority girls by encouraging racism.

Perhaps I missed my calling in life and should befriend Peter Mandelson.

It’s largely pointless arguing with enlightened souls like Tom, I’m afraid he is the successful product of years indoctrination of state education and media exposure to liberal ideas. He knows what to think, not how to think, and won’t change his mind. No point arguing really. Night all.
Exit badnewz pursued by bear.

Jeez, even by our own weird standards this thread has brought out some nutters on both sides 🙄

These girls are from the shit end of society,the same people described as scum, chavs etc on the council house neigbours thread from yesterday

Their parents seem to have abandoned them or had them taken away, I believe most were in care, education and social services obviously hadn’t done enough to protect them.
The police apparently had similar attitudes, untrustworthy, unreliable witnesses, not worth protecting, just chavs, skanks,slags, language you hear throughout society, scared of being called racist? I had no idea coppers are so delicate

And ultimately these mainly Pakistani men viewed them even less as people and more as objects.

Kimbers, from past experience you seem to be a functioning person with a mind of their own, so I’ll try to get my point across to you at least.

I never said the perceived threat of being labelled racist due to ‘PC gone mad’ was the only reason.

The social circumstances of a lot of the victims and society’s prejudiced (bitter irony here) attitudes towards them was a massive factor. Dare I say it, a bigger factor than the ‘PC’ issue. I would not deny that. If the victims had been from a more affluent background (irrespective of race), I doubt the lid would have been kept on for so long.

I haven’t dismissed other factors at all.

I just cannot stand people turning arguments inside out to justify their own hang-ups and agendas whatever the context. That is dogma and zealotry, and it should be exposed to the ridicule it deserves.

…Two of the adults received police cautions after admitting to the Police that they had intercourse with Child A.

They admitted statutory rape and just got a caution?

the depth of the interconnections of those involved in covering this up is disurbing

Not the best idea under the circumstance… Links to Operation Ore and rumours abound about Lambeth care homes, not to mention close ties to Prince Andrew’s mate Jeffrey Epstein.

Same story repeated again and again;

Jimmy Savile
Cyril Smith
Rochdale
Bryn Estyn (Bryn Alyn Community)
Dolphin Square
Elm Guest House
Lambeth
Islington
Jersey
Medomsley
Beechwood

I could go on… secrets society hides are truly vile; we need to get to the root of why this collusion in organized abuse takes place.

it’s not surprising that a system fails when you expect it to solve difficult problems on bugger all money and burn through staff because it’s so stressful and poorly resourced.

Meanwhile as hundreds of children were being abused and trafficked the social work dept was busy removing children from people who voted for the wrong party.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120

Absolutely unbelievable.

These left wing lunatics are far more dangerous than the BNP etc.

So if I murdered someone, the evidence was flimsy, and I admitted it in an interview with the police, I’d get a caution? I thought an admission was evidence.

Sorry, I know that’s reductio ad absurdem, but an admission of guilt?

I can understand a lighter sentence in return for making it easier on the victim by accepting a guilty plea, but a slap on the wrist with a feather?

Does this happen often and who makes the decision?

phrases like this really don’t strengthen the case of people who are trying to get wider acceptance of their beliefs. It just makes it look like they see the whole of government as a conspiracy against their world view.

I see your point and perhaps that doesn’t help my case; doesn’t make it any less true though; of course, despite it being unlikely under the circumstance, the 114 lost files could be coincidental.

However, revoking the visa of a journalist who was going to investigate child abuse on Jersey shows complicity:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leah-mcgrath-goodman/david-miranda-uk-detention_b_3844480.html

Given that a number of sources report a network of abusers within the care system trafficking children between Jersey, Islington, Lambeth and North Wales amongst others, not to mention a stash of extreme abuse images turning up in Belgium which appear to have been taken on Jersey, is it not fair to be a mite suspicious?

Of course, the fact that Jimmy Savile tried to avoid association with Haut de la Garenne (the Jersey House of Horrors) may be a source of further suspicion.

Given that there are several children who appear to have been sent to Jersey and gone missing (an issue raised in Parliament by MP John Hemming) you really have to wonder what the **** was going on there:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trenches-filled-with-lime-found-at-jersey-house-of-horrors-care-home-6693782.html

So yep, I might be a nutjob, or I might have a case so hot that it could bring down the current government.

by achieving targets whilst ignoring multiple reports setting out the longterm endemic horrific real abuse of children in choots with the police who failed to investigate allegations and “lost” evidence presented by victims and council officers who failed their city?

That’s a rather long way of saying that they should ignore immigrant children at risk of abuse by white people and only concentrate on the ones being abused by muslims.

so your view is that all UKIP members should be banned from fostering as their views will conciously or unconciously damage the self image of immgrant children in their care, or conciously or unconciously pass on their views to non-immigrant children in their care

your GMC number is?

@ninfan If wilful neglect like that isn’t grounds for a charge of misconduct in public office, then I don’t know what is!

@ninfan – I think it’s more than misconduct, that’s a cover up

I am surprised some here don’t believe political correctness was an issue in this case. It seems very clear to me the council and the police where concerned about accusations of racism and so did not progress the investigations and take action as they should have done for fear of being labelled as “racist”

As an aside UKIP isn’t against immigrants or immigration it’s against uncontrolled immigration from the EU. Americans are allowed to adopt children and they have controlled immigration in their country.