Janners dementia hasn’t stopped him from renewing his membership of the House of Lords.

Well, despite apparently suffering from Dementia to the degree that he couldn’t understand the charges brought against him, Janner has signed a letter indicating that he’d like to remain in the House of Lords, the highest law court in the land…

…make of that what you will.

I’m convinced that we’ll only nail miscreant MPs posthumously, there will never be one brought to trial for kiddy-fiddling alive.

Why don’t the victims just publish all the evidence and claims they wish and leave it to janner to sue and defend in court. If the threshold of proof is only balance of probabilities and cps have conceded there’s enough evidence to warrant a charge, then they’re probably on safe ground, although I know the evidence tests are not the same.
Or I imagine they could pursue damages in a civil court – I’d guessed that was where we’d end up

Claims of high profile paedophile rings involving politicians, judges, senior police and military figures have sufficient credibility for BBC World at One to do a detailed report over several days…

here is the 1st part:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02qmvpm

Like Jimmy Savile and Peter Ball, Charles Hornby was a friend of Prince Charles, Lord Mountbatten is also alleged to have been involved:

The Playland Cover-Up

Here is part 3 of David’s story of abuse parties involving high ranking members of the military, politicians and other VIPs:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02qsds5

As an example of just how high in the hierarchy such figures are, here is a picture of Lord Bramall at Princess Diana’s Wedding (next to Leon Brittan)

Another pic of Lord Bramall:

Nicked off a friend on FB:

‘Interesting.

Not only has Cameron appointed Gove, who has previously declared that there is no need for a public enquiry into the Whitehall paedophilia scandal, as Justice Minister, but the person he has appointed as Culture Minister became Leon Brittan’s special advisor just after Brittan moved from the Home Office. This was a couple of months after Brittan received the dossier of evidence from Dickens about the paedophile ring allegations, the one that got “lost”. Brittan has since been subject of some direct allegations. OH, nearly forgot, the same Culture Minister (John Whittingdale) has a half-brother who was an organiser of the Paedophile Information Exchange, and was jailed for 13 years for sexual assaults on “a quarter” of the boys at the school where he worked as a teacher.

Of course, guilt by association and nasty insinuations. But they’re not a nice bunch, are they?’

Many of the victims and their families don’t seem to think so.

Yup – one of the more offensive and ridiculous things that jambalaya has come out with out of a list of many. The Tories (and Israel) truly can do no wrong in his eyes.

Tony Blair understood the true value of announcing an inquiry was the fact it meant enough time passed for the public to eventually care less and less about the original crime/misdeeds.
We also have a minefield of a legal system which makes the prosecution of those who covered up the abuse in Oxfordshire and Rotherham extremely unlikely.

😯

Crumbs almost everyine involved in failing to organise it has apologised for it being such a mess and then you say this. As binners note a Bonkers interpretation of the shit storm it has been.

I may be going out on a limb here but I think not having the first two choices have to resign/stand down falls within the realms of “what more she could have done”
Bizarre even by your standards

Lets not try and turn it into a party political issue as that is as cheap as it is unsavoury given what we are discussing.

Do you feel similarly about the allegations around Greville Janner, Cyril Smith and his friend Jimmy Savile?

Strange that like Greville Janner:

The Labour grandee was a regular visitor to the flat in a discreet gated block with stunning sea views until it was sold last year.

The peer bought his two-bedroom holiday apartment in the upmarket East Cliff area of Bournemouth in 1987.

One former neighbour, who did not want to be named, said: ‘He was sometimes seen at the flat with much younger boys in their teens or early 20s.

and David Atkinson[/url] (Bournemouth’s MP for the best part of 30 years and mentioned in the piece on Derek Laud, David Cameron etc’s dodgy deals in South Africa):

Mrs Pilsworth told the Daily Mail at the weekend that she had no inkling of her husband’s homosexuality until 1990, when the footballer Justin Fashanu came out as gay.

Jimmy Savile also liked to frequent Bournemouth

She said: “A thorough and detailed investigation has been carried out into an alleged historical incident in a children’s home in the Bournemouth area which was referred to us as part of the Metropolitan Police’s national Operation Yewtree.

He kept the flat and visited occasionally where he was often seen running along the promenade.

Why don’t you read the article properly?

“Why don’t you read the article properly?”
I did and others, why didn’t you? Not one suggestion of paedophilia not one accusation of paedophilia no evidence of paedophilia. The wording of the article is clear the son spoke to Tom Watson no more than that . Again why do you seek to link Homosexuality and paedophilia?

Still howling at the moon, I see jhj.

As I said a few pages back, your conjecture and attempts to use it as proof/evidence isn’t doing the credibility of your case much good.

Not to mention your seemingly homophobic stance above which I hope is just a case of you getting carried away rather than deliberate. Gay men being attracted to younger men is not illegal and the suggestion that being attracted to younger men means that they are automatically attracted to (and acting on the attraction) to boys under the age of consent is as wrong as suggesting that men who have young women as gfs/wives are also attracted to girls.

EDIT since you’ve posted in the mean time.

Conjecture.

I know (straight and gay) blokes who I would describe as predatory and prolific. They’re still not into kids.

Reasoning is not proof. It’s conjecture.

There is nothing to suggest David Atkinson’s son is a constituent of Tom Watson, being as Tom’s constituency is West Bromich East…

I haven’t stated anything as fact, though I stand by my reasoning…

It does not say WHY he contacted him nor does it say he made specific allegations about anyone let alone about his own Dad
As if further proof was needed that your reasoning was flawed

You really need to show what he contacted him about and then that it was true before we can even say anything all we have is someone spoke to someone about something. Its some way short of either proof or reasoning.

Junkyard contacted Brant Richards, who has designed bikes for a number of years

I assume that also tells you what we talked about….face palm

This is really basic comprehension stuff.

What are you getting?