[Closed] Cotic Souls....

I no longer have this but really enjoyed it. No intention of selling but a dream frame appeared on Classifieds! Still miss the Soul though.

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Not a soul, but close enough...

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If you insist...
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Had mine a few months. Got the frame off ebay. Love it. Inspires confidence and the geometry does magical stuff to my riding.
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wicked bike

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Guess it would be rude not too .....

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I liked mine very much. But I think it's possible I like my C456 more. (no good pics, but it looked exactly the same as all the other black Souls with white forks!)

OTOH the Soul was pretty, and the C456 is pretty bloody hideous.

Someone mention getting a Soul?

Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.Doit.
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go on then if I must 🙄

This is my 2nd one

now with an I beam GD, a Gamut dual Chain device and some 970 XTR Cranks.

Oh and the fork set at 130mm

Absolutely love em, would not be without one.

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Metalheart - is that the small frame? That looks the dogs bo**ocks.

As a longtime Bontrager fan, I love the, er, Bontrager-ness of them (not least the gussets & wishbone).

I'm slowly building mine up...

Considering how many there are on here tis strange I've only ever seen one other out in the wild.

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Maybe I'm going the wrong places.

prezet: you are wrong about the size (its a medium) but you are right about the rest... 😀

tinribz: funnily enough I've not seen many other Cotics out there full stop.
Mind you I really should get out more...

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Had mine over a year now and fair to say it's had a good outing.It still gives me confidence.

This is my second one, first one lasted me 6 years before I succumbed to temptation and bought an FS and sold my Soul. Didn't realise that I had actually sold my Soul so bought another 18 months later. Running it with 120mm forks and its nice to have my Soul back again.

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Get one, they're great.

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mine

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My second one running with 120mm Reba's now with stealthtastic Gritstone decals, thanks Cotic.

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I sometimes wish I had got a soul instead of my carbon 456 - they do look lovely. What is the TT length like compared to On Ones?

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Fun!

My new Bfe should get its forks tomorrow-can't wait!!!!

This is the one I had for a while last year.

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What size would people recommend for someone 6", I'm in-between a medium and large and the nearest test ride is nearly 100miles away?

I love mine, even raced it round Kielder 100 last yr and completed It is a confidence inspiring bike especially with some decent forks on. I've just swapped front RS Revs at 120mm to some Fox RL's 140mm. I'm running them a bit slow on the rebound and the bike is riding the best its ever felt. DO IT 8)

ps i'm 6'2 and ride a large comfortably without a layback seatpost. Put some lovely wide bars on and a Maxxis Advantage 2.4 on the front it really is a burly mountain bike, flippin love it!!

@fathomer: What do you ride at the moment? Would you like it to be longer, shorter or about the same? FWIW I'm 5'10" and ride a medium with straight seatpost and 60mm stem, although my bike isn't as XC oriented as some Souls. I like it very very much, wouldn't change anything about it.

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Amazing bike. Pushes me to try ridiculous things, and saves me when I'm let down by my own lack of skill.

youreallyshouldbuyanorangesoulnowitjustmakessense

@brakes, your second pic the summit of Holmbury Hill?

@ chiefgrooveguru, currently ride an 18' Cube ltd pro, feels about right but would like to run a short stem (100mm currently) to sharpen things up a little. I'd be using 120mm Rebas if that makes any difference? Not sure about colour either!

@fathomer Your current frame is closer to the large than the medium in length and I have quite a lot of seatpost sticking out at XC height and am almost 2" shorter than you, so I'd lean towards a large. I'd get that short stem now and see how you like the fit of the Cube with it - mine is from Carboncycles; they do a 60mm O/S one for £20 which seems hard to fault for non-freeride purposes!

Can't be arsed to post a pic at the mo (wife in bed waiting!) - love mine and glad it's custard!

Been window shopping as I haven't been able to get out for 3 weeks and am getting restless. Retrieved single speed yesterday and the short climb up the hill home nearly popped me. think I will build that up geared for now (456summerseason) with lighter wheels and see how I get on off the squidgey bike for a while before Spaffing on yet another new frame...

This is mine. New wheels have transformed it. It was good before, but light wheels just make it fly!
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Sorry about the rubbish picture.

Ben, what wheels?

hmmm

this isn't helping me kerb my urge to get one... if someone had a 2010 or 11 medium frame they wanted shot of...

this isn't helping me [b]kerb[/b] my urge to get one

When you do, will you be doing curb-hops on it? 😀

Keep getting the urge to swap my 2007 Black Soul (pre-CEN) for a 2010-11 post-CEN Orange. All these pics or shiny orange ones aren't helping.

medium be a bit small surely?

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6ft1" and riding a large frame with a 90mm stem. Feels right as well. Medium would definitely be too small. Love my FS, and thought after building it up it would be a week long love afair before sending it back to the classified from where it came.

Nope, it's here to stay. Love it.

The only negative I've found, is the back wheel is really hard to get out. Not a fan of the cowled dropouts. 😡

Spoken to Cy on the phone to get some more decals. Really nice guy, and a pleasure to deal with.

(and yes, the brake hoses have been shortened since)

Easily my best bike, always a pleasure to ride!

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Not quite a Soul but near enough

Well, just finished putting the new BFe together, might go to work on it tomorrow!!!!

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They're ace, do it!

Re. sizing - I'm bang on 6' and the large is definitely right for me (test rode and purchased at the excellent Dales Bike Centre). U-turn Revelations are just the ticket - tight and nimble for singletrack, capable enough to get me out of trouble in the big stuff.

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trailofdestruction, what skewers are you using? I've found the dropouts really easy to use with XTs.

Not quite a Soul but these are my girls.............

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Great big hugs to you all. That's proper made me smile this morning. Ace.

Absolutely lovin mine,I also have an Orange 5 but love the speed and zip a Soul can deliver, totally flickable and can deal with the fast stuff too. I'm 6'2" and the large frame works for me no probs... Nice work Cy, great design mate.

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Ben, what wheels?

Them there white ones - it's the colour that makes 'em fast!
(American Classic jobbies)

Can I jump in and get some seatpost recommendations? I'm 6' 1", and something bombproof (rather than XC light as a feather) would suit me.

Love my Soul so very much.

Thomson seatpost as standard.

Never been a fan of Thompsons myself. Have a look at Race Face or Easton for tough, long options.

Avoid Thomson unless you want a sore arse.

I've got a carbon post on mine which makes it fairly comfy for all day rides.

[i]Avoid Thomson unless you want a sore arse.[/i]

in the true STW stylee MTFU 😉 i'm a very lazy rider, arse firmly planted on the saddle most of the time, and i find my soul very comfy with a thomson post, 6-8 hrs in the saddle doesn't pose any problems.

Never like the idea of a carbon shaft below my arse......!!! 😮

One day in a remote location (where else would it happen!)the seatpost will give and impale into your inner-thigh. A little extreme I know but bleeding out miles from anywhere isn't for me.
Alu posts all the way.

Ben sure I realise. What model are they?

I had a new carbon post fail after a few days light use, it crumpled into a vicious emasculation weapon as I was on it. I dismounted very carefully.

My last soul had a thompson & an SDG bel air. Very comfy. My current soul has a thomson & a gobi. Far less comfortable. Nothing to do with the post though. I know people ride carbon bars & posts quite happily & without incident. We're all different though. I've got carbon bars but wouldn't countenance a carbon post because of this...

crumpled into a vicious emasculation weapon as I was on it

in action at the weekend

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Mind changed again.
anyone want to buy a complete single speed 456 summer season in lemon yellow?

Stick the trance frame on the wall.

black large soul to be ordered (in a week or two once the new shed is built)

6ft 4" over doing it on a large soul?

#Rich S# That's spooky my number was 303 at this years Kielder mud fest...

How many original soul owners is out there? I have frame number six, complete with the free t shirt with number '6' on the back and it's still going strong, the bike is used all the time. When I say original I think the first 50 riders

6ft 4" over doing it on a large soul?

You should be ok, Im 6'2 but have long legs for my height, and a 19" does me with a long seatpost. I only run a 60mm stem aswell.

6'4" will be fine Olly. You might want a layback post and your mates will tell you it's too small for you but they'll be wrong and you'll be loving it. Make sure the post is reet long though so there's plenty still in the frame. I'm 6'4", but I've got stumpy little 34" inseam legs, so am fine with a 400 post. 410 Thomson layback probably recommended.

Ben sure I realise. What model are they?

MTB 26 Tubeless. When I got them they were the ligher of 2 models, the other being the MTB 26 AM, though I've just checked the AC website for the name and noticed that they also do a lighter race version now.

Thx.

Thomson on my Simple for the last 3 years, not a single problem or gripe with it.

Fraction under 6ft and find my medium soul with 70mm stem, 710mm bars and inline post is a great fit. At times when climbing there can be a lot of post showing but other than that I love it.

Mine:

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I've had quite a few HT's but comparable HT's I've owned would be Genesis Alptitude, SC Chameleon and a 2009 P7.

I bought this bike to compliment my Alpine 160 as wanted a bike for the winter months and was 'different' to the Alpine (i.e. change the tyres add SPD's if i was partaking in a XC race or enduro) but that would still handle the kind of riding I do.

Previously I owned the P7 and scoffed at Souls thinking they were mince machines, but so far it has held up to everything I have been able to throw at it, as the P7 did, the noticeable difference being the Soul has a 'zip' to it that the P7 didn't (the 2010 onwards P7 is even less zippy due to CEN)

Current build with the Talas forks and DH tyre weighs in at 28lbs but when I change the tyres to Fat Albert Evo's, change the forks to my Reba's it's 26lbs and absolutely flies.

Also, im 5 11" and the frame is a medium - it fits perfectly.

my soul and friends soda..
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I'm afraid to try one. I love my roadrat and am scared that if I get into the saddle I won't leave.

These wheels are the wrong size.

Thought i should join in. Here is my pride and joy

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Hope, Thomson and XT build with Reba Teams at 100mm. Love it.

Sorry about the garden, but it is a working garden 🙂
dan

WHite grips and a white saddle (is that a Charge Spoon?) - forgive me, but I'll be ripping that look off as soon as I can afford it. Nice work.

Thanks 🙂

Think it's the Knife rather than the Spoon, but pretty much the same. Quite comfy.

Am surpised how white the saddle stays, yesterday was the first proper wash it has had in a year and a half, normally I just let the mud dry and brush it off. But it was covered in Blackberry juice (an interesting day; the weather forecast was wrong and I got attacked by a horse).

dan

I'm just waiting on the nice postman to delivery the final package to turn this into something I can ride outside of the garden (seatpost and brake mount adaptor missing):

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One of the 50 single-speed Soul-based Simples. Can't wait!

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My new small framed BFe (swapped from a medium) - pic a bit blurry, was early morning.

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Cotics are sweet 🙂
im running a use alu sumo post and been v happy with it
excuse the dodgy lighting adornments

Cotic pics of Some souls, soda's and a roadrat can be found here

Ref Seat posts, have a look at USE, they do some well built carbon and a nice Ti post for a bit more give.

Some real nice builds, The main reson I like the Cotic range of frames is you can build "one frame" into differnt type of bike to your ridding style/area. In the Soul case, from XC (100mm), trail riding (120mm)to harder trail riding (140mm)

Just looking forward to the new Full sus that Cy been working on...

Regarding the height question, i've got a large Soul and i'm 6'4''. It's perfect. I've got a thompson layback post which helps.

TwentyOneThirtyFive you front tyre looks like it as about 1cm if that of clearance to the fork brace?