Winters coming;all inclusive rugby thread.

Wales to lose by 25

I can see ten tries for the AB’s this weekend maybe ten points for wales. England SA will be close, England by 5. Argentina to beat Ireland by 5 also.

It looks like Marler is out this weekend, and Corbisiero could return.

I think SA will beat England by 10.

I think you’re right

All of you!

Ireland v argies – Ireland by 3 ‘cos they’ll need it to stay top 8
Italy v oz – Oz by 20, they’re pretty good
England v SA, SA by a try or two, can’t see where England will get the upper hand
Scotland v Tonga, Scots by 20 in a high scoring game with more McVisser tries
Wales v NZ, wales can’t be as bad 3 games in a row, will defend well, but the ABs will be too strong in the last twenty mins and win by 2 tries
France v Samoa, France to be france – so after two good performances this’ll be a fight, a couple of red cards, and a narrow Samoan win (for pot 2 seeding at the RWC)

…can’t see where England will get the upper hand

By sticking Haskell at Flanker / interferance and running hard at the 9/10/12 channel, avoiding devillers, and kicking over the top and chasing hard. Run into space not players.

Jamie Joseph at 13 and Tuilagi on the wing 1st half, Sharples 2nd half.

Sounds a good plan, interested if they give it a go. But if they try to play “English style”, they’ll be playing into the ‘boks hands.
They’ll need some ball – SA lineout has looked impressive and they’ve started to get their maul rolling well.
England should be strong enough to take some possession, but it’s worrying when Oz get the upper hand in the scrum with the Springboks up next.

Jamie Joseph at 13

Don’t you mean Jonathan?

if it was Jamie Joseph AB I’d bet on at least a yellow card these days

Kyran Bracken’s ankle does not like this thread.

welcome to international rugby 😯

WALES: Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North; Rhys Priestland, Mike Phillips; Paul James, Matthew Rees, Aaron Jarvis, Bradley Davies, Luke Charteris, Ryan Jones, Sam Warburton (Captain), Toby Faletau

REPLACEMENTS: Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Aaron Shingler, Justin Tipuric, Tavis Knoyle, James Hook, Scott Williams

how bad does everyone else need to be before Hook could get a start? Hopefully Priestland will break a finger nail in the warm up. seeing Scott Andrews on the bench makes me feel sick.

andylaightscat – Member
if it was Jamie Joseph AB I’d bet on at least a yellow card these days

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Did he not get a ban for the KB incident? Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person from what I remember of him…..Not talking about the ban either.

England aren’t going to beat the ‘boks – not after what we saw last weekend

By the way if anyone wants a pair of Lower West Stand tickets just outside the 5m line drop me an email – face value and to be used by the purchaser only – I may not be able to go.

Hmmm, pies!

And yes, I am in my glass house, and I have put the stones down. 🙂

Haskell, Morgan and (Jonathan 😉 ) Joseph in, Sharples, Johnson and the Pie Eater ^^ out.

Looks like England are following my advice, sending the big mobile boys at 9/10 😀

BREAKING NEWS: Lancaster admits England number eight selections based on ordering wrong sized shirts
England coach Stuart Lancaster has revealed he has no option to select anyone but Ben Morgan
 or Thomas Waldron
 at number eight for England as the RFU ordered only XXXXL size shirts from kit maker Canterbury for the Autumn series.
“There is nobody else in the professional game who would fit into those shirts,” said Lancaster.  “Hopefully we’ll get some new shirts by the Six Nations and increase our options. Until then we’ll rotate these guys.

http://theeastterrace.typepad.com/my_weblog/2012/11/breaking-news-lancaster-admits-england-number-eight-selections-based-on-ordering-wrong-sized-shirts.html

Lol

Predictions then

Ireland by 3, provided Deccie makes some changes
England by 5, based on books being poor against us
Scotland by 10
Wales will do well to keep it under 50 points

Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Conrad Smith, Ma’a Nonu, Julian Savea, Daniel Carter, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock.

looks shit Wales by 20.

Oh my;that AB side doesn’t look too bad.

Not impressed with the announced England team. Basically the same except Launchbury and Morgan start with Brown on the wing.

That means the back line is the same midfield. I’m assuming (and hoping) he’s using the size to defend against/wear down the saffers in the first half, then will ring changes to an attacking setup with JJ in the centres second half.

Not sure about playing Brown out of position but understand Goode as first choice – I’ve always felt Brown doesn’t rise to international level. Two ball catchers? Surly SA won’t kick much over – they’ll try to go “through”?

Hmmmm mixed feelings.

Turns out JJ is my good friend’s and fellow Peak District MTBer’s nephew – cool !

Not impressed with the announced England team. Basically the same except Launchbury and Morgan start with Brown on the wing

Well, it’ll improve the pack. JJ is an outside centre. Tuilagi is an outside centre. I’d sooner have MT than JJ on the field. I’m no fan or Barritt but we don’t seem to be overloaded with good 12s ATM. Would like to see Burrell get into the saxons squad.

Hope Flood has done his tackling prac as Alberts is heading his way! England do look at bit like a poor mans SA at the moment….. Can Wales swap a centre for a tighthead, you can have Hook or Williams.

Glitchybollox

MT = Mike Tindal? We’d all prefer that!!!!

Glitchyboredombuggery

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MT = Mike Tindal? We’d all prefer that!!!!

I bloody wouldn’t!!!

Wrecker; I suspect one of the reasons Tindall is playing so well is because he isn’t involved for England anymore. Who does his centre partner play for?

Didn’t Tindall drop a rather major bollock last weekend? Gifted a try I seem to remember. My glaws supporting colleage doesn’t seem too happy with him.

North out with injury. Eek.

wrecker – Member
North out with injury. Eek.

Wales by 25 then.

🙂

Wales are going down big time at the weekend. I’m now less confident of England winning, it’ll be close.

Ok I predict a thrashing for Wales on Saturday, the roof will be closed the ball will be dry and a tidal wave of Black shirts will envelop the Welsh defence. This will make me a bit sad but no where near as sad as the previous 2 results this autmn have. I will not comment on this fixture again.

Watching Tindal in a coaching role at the Liberty the other day he looked a lot leaner than I have seen him in a long time.

I’m now less confident of England winning, it’ll be close.

I reckon we’re going to get a pasting. Our scrum is in rag order. Corbs is a lot better than Marler in this respect but Youngs is a weak point. I don’t see an area of the field where we will have the upper hand. They’ll duff us up front. Could be closer if we had Lawes and the anger monkey.

Could be closer if we had Lawes and the anger monkey.

Agree here. When they first played youngs I assumed he’d be involved in running play due to his centre background and would be around and about rucks offloading and being a nuisance.

Unfortunately not, I’ve seen Hartley run more yards. Launchbury and Laws could be a talented world cup 2nd row. But its the flankers that worry me – we just don’t seem to have a N Back replacement.

Morgan could be a good threat though as long as he’s supported.

we just don’t seem to have a N Back replacement.

We’d need more of a Moody for this game, but in general I agree. I don’t think Marler is good enough yet, Corbs must remain first choice. Launchbury and Lawes would make a good second row (which is where we’ve been found wanting), Wood/Robshaw at 6, Morgan at 8 and an awesome 7 from…somewhere.
I have a feeling we’ll be seeing some HASK(tm) saturday too. Hopefully in DOMINATION(tm) mode 😀 Probably when Morgan is breathing out of his arse.