thanks for the advice guys.
i really want to get into the softshell’s for riding but i run too hot for them, i snowboard in a TNF Apex softshell and sometimes find that to warm especially above 0c and it’s the thinnest around.
So a SS is a no go one of the reason why i was looking at the GE Frosty. I actually bought a Specialized deflect jacket a few months ago, what a load of pants more like plastic bag, its super light but you end up wetter inside than it is out, it has to be cold and raining for it to work.
maybe an idea for the Singletrack guys to review a clothing system that works together for different body types rather than individual items…..nudge
thanks anyway everyone I’ll take a look at some of your suggestion.